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Quote from: leonair on November 16, 2023, 01:13:33 PM

Quote from: Zanab247 on November 16, 2023, 11:01:22 AM

I believe you know that to quit gambling is not an easy thing when you are addicted to it, but if you are not addicted to gambling, I guess is very easy to quit to face your business that is bringing you profits. Those that is gamble for income purpose, it make such gamblers not to make big money that will remove them from poverty because they take gambling as an investment you can invest today and have full confident of earn big money before the end of the week.

Since I started gamble as an entertainment with little money $5 or $4 daily, it has helped me to earn many profits from gambling and, am not addicted to it like the way some are addicted to it by using their monthly salary to gamble in a day and return back home with tears.

Winning or losing in gambling makes us panic. If we win in gambling, we think that we can win more if we play more. If we lose, we panic and deposit again and think that this loss will be recovered. This is how gambling cannot be stopped. Quitting gambling is very difficult for a gambler. It is much easier to start gambling than it is to quit gambling. I have seen very few people who have been able to quit gambling once they started gambling. Gambling addiction is a very bad addiction, it destroys human intelligence

Any reaction that you take will affect the next decision making that you\'ll going to take, like what you mentioned if we are in the winning side we will keep pushing to win more, while if we are in the losing side, we will try our luck to recover the money by adding more to our bankroll, those decision are being made after we experienced the adrenaline the lust inside you that will lead you to please that kind of enjoyment,

though if you get caught in the middle you will find yourself getting involved too much and you are starting to get addicted and the control is no longer available.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 16, 2023, 12:54:31 PM

Quote from: Zanab247 on November 16, 2023, 11:01:22 AM

Since I started gamble as an entertainment with little money $5 or $4 daily, it has helped me to earn many profits from gambling and, am not addicted to it like the way some are addicted to it by using their monthly salary to gamble in a day and return back home with tears.

Since you decided to step down with the amount of your wager, I wonder if you could share with you whether it has also influenced on your tolerance to risk or the size of multipliers you aim to get with each session.
Do you still seek to get the same percentages like those before decreasing your wager or do you aim to way lower gains now?
In my case, since I also seek to keep my wager fairly low for a single session, I go for low multipliers, otherwise I could not prolong my session for how long as I want and I would need to logg out after a few minutes or a few dice rolls. Tongue

I think that setback is a better thing to do as an effective way of preventing you from always suffering from the same pressure as when you were overdoing it in the past. I think with that action then obviously their level of expectation in terms of getting a big win will definitely decrease, or I mean they will not put too much hope because the amount of their budget allocation is now smaller and with that I think they will also understand that the percentage of big wins is like very unlikely to get.

Now one of the actions so that we can enjoy gambling more in each session but with a small amount of budget then yes you have given a good way by lowering the multiplier in your bet, it's better because by lowering it then you will have a longer time to play because yes obviously the multiplier you choose is also quite small so that makes your gambling run long enough in one session. So the point is that we must be able to balance the amount of budget that we allocate with the level of multiplier that we must choose so that the game does not end quickly.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on November 16, 2023, 11:01:22 AM

I believe you know that to quit gambling is not an easy thing when you are addicted to it, but if you are not addicted to gambling, I guess is very easy to quit to face your business that is bringing you profits. Those that is gamble for income purpose, it make such gamblers not to make big money that will remove them from poverty because they take gambling as an investment you can invest today and have full confident of earn big money before the end of the week.

Since I started gamble as an entertainment with little money $5 or $4 daily, it has helped me to earn many profits from gambling and, am not addicted to it like the way some are addicted to it by using their monthly salary to gamble in a day and return back home with tears.

Winning or losing in gambling makes us panic. If we win in gambling, we think that we can win more if we play more. If we lose, we panic and deposit again and think that this loss will be recovered. This is how gambling cannot be stopped. Quitting gambling is very difficult for a gambler. It is much easier to start gambling than it is to quit gambling. I have seen very few people who have been able to quit gambling once they started gambling. Gambling addiction is a very bad addiction, it destroys human intelligence

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Quote from: Zanab247 on November 16, 2023, 11:01:22 AM

Since I started gamble as an entertainment with little money $5 or $4 daily, it has helped me to earn many profits from gambling and, am not addicted to it like the way some are addicted to it by using their monthly salary to gamble in a day and return back home with tears.

Since you decided to step down with the amount of your wager, I wonder if you could share with you whether it has also influenced on your tolerance to risk or the size of multipliers you aim to get with each session.
Do you still seek to get the same percentages like those before decreasing your wager or do you aim to way lower gains now?
In my case, since I also seek to keep my wager fairly low for a single session, I go for low multipliers, otherwise I could not prolong my session for how long as I want and I would need to logg out after a few minutes or a few dice rolls. Tongue

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Quote from: len01 on November 16, 2023, 09:18:10 AM

Quote from: maydna on November 15, 2023, 09:21:05 AM

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an approach with the family will not only give the spirit of self confidence to recover from addiction but also as brain therapy indirectly eliminates dopamine in him to look more towards his family who feel sorry for helping him to recover so that every desire to gamble arises because of encouragement of the dopamine hormone when remembering his family he will stop thinking about gambling and choose to value his family thereby making a little easier for the compulsive gambler to quit gambling.

He will see how much effort his family put in to help him cure his gambling addiction, and he will tell himself that he can definitely do it because he has the support of his family. Help from his family will be a good encouragement for him and can convince him that what he is doing now is for his recovery from gambling addiction. That will make him try every therapy he gets so he can see how far he has progressed. He believes that his family really supports him in healing himself from his gambling addiction so that he can still undergo his healing therapy. He will be strong enough to survive all the therapy sessions because in his mind, he has been replaced by his family, and he just wants to show his family that he is capable of getting out and healing himself from his gambling addiction.

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I believe you know that to quit gambling is not an easy thing when you are addicted to it, but if you are not addicted to gambling, I guess is very easy to quit to face your business that is bringing you profits. Those that is gamble for income purpose, it make such gamblers not to make big money that will remove them from poverty because they take gambling as an investment you can invest today and have full confident of earn big money before the end of the week.

Since I started gamble as an entertainment with little money $5 or $4 daily, it has helped me to earn many profits from gambling and, am not addicted to it like the way some are addicted to it by using their monthly salary to gamble in a day and return back home with tears.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 16, 2023, 02:24:43 AM

Quote from: len01 on November 15, 2023, 03:43:25 AM

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The chances of being able to stop gambling can indeed be said to be very slim, especially if they are already heavily addicted, of course it will be difficult to get rid of the addiction that has been attached and ingrained. Not to mention those who cannot accept advice from other people, friends or family, they can even rebel when advised because their brains have been quasi by gambling so they cannot accept when advised, the main key is in themselves. if they are sure and consistent to stop gambling maybe they can do it, but on the contrary, if they do it without really doing it, it will only be a waste of time.
It's true what you said. People who are already heavily addicted will do anything when they have run out of capital to gamble, even if it is at great risk to them, as you said committing crimes such as stealing or others which essentially with great risk, of course this is clearly endangering themselves. and in the end they will be confused themselves.

stopping a gambling addiction is indeed a difficult thing when an addict still has a budget for gambling and if it is possible that he runs out of budget he still has a way to continue to indulge in the desire to gamble and what I know is that a gambling addict will be able to stop if God reminds him.
I mean a compulsive gambler who finds it difficult to accept advice from other people, they will only become aware and have the desire to stop gambling when they no longer have anything, even they have lost their house, etc. as if they have become addicted and at that time the addict will feel sorry for their actions and want to recover from their addiction.

but all of that still depends on one own commitment because there are many people who have lost whatever they had by gambling and trying to steal, being caught by the police and in prison. after leaving prison, they are still gambling, which means that commitment is very important.

Even when they have run out of money they can take out loans or worse, they can commit crimes that harm them and can even harm them. It is true that you said they will realize after losing money and all their valuable assets such as houses or whatever they have, it is difficult for them to accept advice from others who try to help them get rid of the addiction. But it's a fact and most of them are like that.

And I think those who have tried to quit will also be easily tempted again if they don't have a strong stance and commitment like you said, Even they can undo their intention to stop gambling because they see their friends who get big wins that all gamblers want, So does commitment play an important role in this? or is there something else?
I think there are many other important things and everyone also seems to know the important things related to quitting gambling.

Gambling involves risk, reward, and desperation. Borrowing or worse when gamblers run out of money shows addiction's depth. A psychological trap, not just a financial disaster. Addiction distorts reality, making guidance and help impossible to understand. Structured intervention is typically needed in addition to words

Commitment is essential to fighting gambling addiction, but it's not enough. A huge win, especially in front of peers, can break even the strongest commitments. Gambling addiction is like substance abuse—it involves persistent effort, support, and occasionally professional intervention. It involves changing one's environment, behaviors, and social network. While commitment is important, support, treatment, and lifestyle adjustments are also necessary

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Quote from: sompitonov on November 16, 2023, 09:37:17 AM

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Quote from: GideonGono on November 14, 2023, 10:15:18 PM

It would depend on how addicted the person is, if they are very addicted to it that it is on their mind most of the time then it would really be hard for them to quit, but if they are just playing for fun then they could just seek for other things that would fill up their needs or entertainment.
Quitting on something not just gambling would take time and effort and of course consistency, so it would all end up on the person's dedication.

Someone who is gambling for fun is probably not addicted, addiction comes with obsession for something, and for gamblers, it's money, money is always the drive of every gambler who is addicted or end up being addicted to gambling.

So, in the nutshell, gambling for fun alone does not probably make a gambler become addicted to gambling, it is the chase for money that drives and causes gambling addiction, and you are right about the level.
The level of addiction plays a roll in how easy or hard it wil be for a gambler to quit and come out of his or her addiction, some when they discover that they are addicted, they can easily turn back and quit it easily, while for others, they may require external help to come of it, like medical or psychological help or something similar.

True, but there is a very fine line between these two things. If you play for fun, then at one point, after another loss, you will want to win back. It will be followed by another loss, and after several in a row a person may explode and start betting like a monkey on other sports that he has never watched. It is important not to break this thin ice. There is even such an expression: you can behave like a monkey in gambling, but come out of it only as a human. I don't want to hurt the feelings of some players, but I think this is a true statement.

You are right, but I still insist that gambling for fun remains gambling for fun, whoever used to gamble for fun and after some time, turns around to become addicted out of chasing for money, then it simply means that such a person never indeed made up their mind to only gamble for fun.

Using myself as an example, I've been gambling for a couple of years now, I've never taken gambling to heart to want to ever chase after my loses, I have in a couple of times made mistakes and lost money i never intended losing, and after feeling down for some time, I pick up myself and keep moving, I never allowed such a loss to be a reason for me to want to start range gambling in a bid to recover my lost money.

This is what I mean by gambling for fun, someone who has made up their mind to gamble for fun will always stay true to this course no matter how much they lost in the process of gambling.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 16, 2023, 09:27:47 AM

Quote from: GideonGono on November 14, 2023, 10:15:18 PM

It would depend on how addicted the person is, if they are very addicted to it that it is on their mind most of the time then it would really be hard for them to quit, but if they are just playing for fun then they could just seek for other things that would fill up their needs or entertainment.
Quitting on something not just gambling would take time and effort and of course consistency, so it would all end up on the person's dedication.

Someone who is gambling for fun is probably not addicted, addiction comes with obsession for something, and for gamblers, it's money, money is always the drive of every gambler who is addicted or end up being addicted to gambling.

So, in the nutshell, gambling for fun alone does not probably make a gambler become addicted to gambling, it is the chase for money that drives and causes gambling addiction, and you are right about the level.
The level of addiction plays a roll in how easy or hard it wil be for a gambler to quit and come out of his or her addiction, some when they discover that they are addicted, they can easily turn back and quit it easily, while for others, they may require external help to come of it, like medical or psychological help or something similar.

True, but there is a very fine line between these two things. If you play for fun, then at one point, after another loss, you will want to win back. It will be followed by another loss, and after several in a row a person may explode and start betting like a monkey on other sports that he has never watched. It is important not to break this thin ice. There is even such an expression: you can behave like a monkey in gambling, but come out of it only as a human. I don't want to hurt the feelings of some players, but I think this is a true statement.

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Quote from: GideonGono on November 14, 2023, 10:15:18 PM

It would depend on how addicted the person is, if they are very addicted to it that it is on their mind most of the time then it would really be hard for them to quit, but if they are just playing for fun then they could just seek for other things that would fill up their needs or entertainment.
Quitting on something not just gambling would take time and effort and of course consistency, so it would all end up on the person's dedication.

Someone who is gambling for fun is probably not addicted, addiction comes with obsession for something, and for gamblers, it's money, money is always the drive of every gambler who is addicted or end up being addicted to gambling.

So, in the nutshell, gambling for fun alone does not probably make a gambler become addicted to gambling, it is the chase for money that drives and causes gambling addiction, and you are right about the level.
The level of addiction plays a roll in how easy or hard it wil be for a gambler to quit and come out of his or her addiction, some when they discover that they are addicted, they can easily turn back and quit it easily, while for others, they may require external help to come of it, like medical or psychological help or something similar.

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Quote from: South Park on November 14, 2023, 04:15:47 PM

Quote from: Wakate on November 08, 2023, 02:38:29 PM

when an effected gambler that is addicted with excessive gambling and does not want to stop or reduce the way they gamble, it is always better for people to leave the person alone for them to continue gambling because no matter how hard we try to help the person, the affect gambler might not know the worth. Anybody that is ready to change from being an addicted gambler to being a normal gambler, just little effort from people to help him would work and have a great effect on them. This is why we don't have to force people to stop the lifestyle of excessive gambling if they don't have to adhere to instructions.

It is true we can only help those that want to help themselves, and this is true not only in gambling but in life in general, we see this here when a newbie comes to this forum and wants to invest in a coin that is an obvious scam and forum members try to help them out and suggest they do not do it, but since those newbies believe this is the way to make a lot of money they refuse to listen the advice that we give them, only to lose their investment and come to the forum to tell the story of their failure.

If someone is really hooked on gambling and doesn't want help, it's often better to let them be.
They might not realize the value of assistance. On the other hand, if someone wants to change and gamble more responsibly, even a little support can make a big difference.
That's why it's important not to force people to quit gambling unless they're ready to listen. or come to us after learning the lesson hard way.

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Quote from: maydna on November 15, 2023, 09:21:05 AM

Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2023, 02:04:54 PM

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The approach taken by his family can be carried out as long as they can find an approach that is suitable for him in treating his gambling addiction. The approach from his family can encourage a gambling addict to see that his family still supports him in being able to cure his gambling addiction and is still with him in every therapy session. Maybe it will give him a quicker time than usual because the encouragement and encouragement from his family can show the gambling addict that he is not alone.

So we should be really careful when gambling, especially if we hide our gambling activities so that no problems will arise after we finish gambling. We also don't want to worry our family if they end up finding out that we are gambling. Maybe it would be better if we really reduce our gambling activities and try to live it as well as possible until we can finally stop gambling.

an approach with the family will not only give the spirit of self confidence to recover from addiction but also as brain therapy indirectly eliminates dopamine in him to look more towards his family who feel sorry for helping him to recover so that every desire to gamble arises because of encouragement of the dopamine hormone when remembering his family he will stop thinking about gambling and choose to value his family thereby making a little easier for the compulsive gambler to quit gambling.

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Quote from: len01 on November 15, 2023, 03:43:25 AM

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Even when they have run out of money they can take out loans or worse, they can commit crimes that harm them and can even harm them. It is true that you said they will realize after losing money and all their valuable assets such as houses or whatever they have, it is difficult for them to accept advice from others who try to help them get rid of the addiction. But it's a fact and most of them are like that.

And I think those who have tried to quit will also be easily tempted again if they don't have a strong stance and commitment like you said, Even they can undo their intention to stop gambling because they see their friends who get big wins that all gamblers want, So does commitment play an important role in this? or is there something else?
I think there are many other important things and everyone also seems to know the important things related to quitting gambling.

yep, sure. commitment is always an important role but it will not be strong without a healthy mindset as I said before. If you have self control, commitment and any positive things without a healthy mindset you can definitely still be tempted to gamble but if you have a healthy mindset like thinking that gambling is just a place of fun that will throw money or think about how gambling works which only benefits the gambling party.
with a mindset like this, it will definitely be very easy to hold tightly to the commitments we have planned.

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Quote from: Wakate on November 15, 2023, 09:44:44 AM

Quote from: South Park on November 14, 2023, 04:15:47 PM

Quote from: Wakate on November 08, 2023, 02:38:29 PM

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That is a compete tragedy of life and we need to make sure that we don't get deceive because we want to make.more money from different investment. A lot had cried and lost everything through the simple scenerio you just illustrated. There are people that don't listen to anyone opinion even when they ask for advise. They mostly feel like they are okay and knows everything but when they finally got deceived, they will come back crying for their loses not for the mistake they made and ready to make a new leave.

There are also people that listen to other people's opinions based on their state of emotions, they mostly allow emotions to eat them up and they can only take your suggestions when they have made the worse mistake and ready to make adjustments because of their loses.

Sometimes beginners are people who don't really care about risks, in fact they tend not to care much about other people conversations or suggestions because they have trust and confidence in what they see can bring profits.
Incidents like this do not only happen among traders or investors but also in the gambling industry where beginner enters scam site because of tempting promotion and when we try to help by giving advice they don't care.
But in the end these people become victims of what is called fraud and deception by certain irresponsible parties and they only regret or believe in us when something bad happens.

In an effort to stop these detrimental activities, they also need something called bitter experience or real regret due to the loss of all the valuable assets they own.
Gamblers, traders and investors must always be careful and have a lot of consideration in every decision so they can determine what is good and bad for themselves in the future.

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Quote from: South Park on November 14, 2023, 04:15:47 PM

Quote from: Wakate on November 08, 2023, 02:38:29 PM

when an effected gambler that is addicted with excessive gambling and does not want to stop or reduce the way they gamble, it is always better for people to leave the person alone for them to continue gambling because no matter how hard we try to help the person, the affect gambler might not know the worth. Anybody that is ready to change from being an addicted gambler to being a normal gambler, just little effort from people to help him would work and have a great effect on them. This is why we don't have to force people to stop the lifestyle of excessive gambling if they don't have to adhere to instructions.

It is true we can only help those that want to help themselves, and this is true not only in gambling but in life in general, we see this here when a newbie comes to this forum and wants to invest in a coin that is an obvious scam and forum members try to help them out and suggest they do not do it, but since those newbies believe this is the way to make a lot of money they refuse to listen the advice that we give them, only to lose their investment and come to the forum to tell the story of their failure.

For someone to truly abandon a harmful habit like gambling addiction, it has to truly start with accepting that the habit is not good for him and making that decision to stop. Because I gambler that sees nothing wrong with his addiction will be very hard to convince to stop, let alone accept to be rehabilitated. You know the saying that you can force a horse to a stream, but you can't force the horse to drink from the stream. So without the willingness of the gambler it's all labor in vain for the helper, so if every efforts to rehabilitated fails, there'll be no choice but to leave the addict in his own world.

On the other hand we can encourage an addict to gamble responsibly, because gambling in it self is not bad, in fact its an activity to engage in for fun, with budgeted money, but the gambler must apply strict discipline.

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Quote from: len01 on November 15, 2023, 03:43:25 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 15, 2023, 03:03:15 AM

The chances of being able to stop gambling can indeed be said to be very slim, especially if they are already heavily addicted, of course it will be difficult to get rid of the addiction that has been attached and ingrained. Not to mention those who cannot accept advice from other people, friends or family, they can even rebel when advised because their brains have been quasi by gambling so they cannot accept when advised, the main key is in themselves. if they are sure and consistent to stop gambling maybe they can do it, but on the contrary, if they do it without really doing it, it will only be a waste of time.
It's true what you said. People who are already heavily addicted will do anything when they have run out of capital to gamble, even if it is at great risk to them, as you said committing crimes such as stealing or others which essentially with great risk, of course this is clearly endangering themselves. and in the end they will be confused themselves.

stopping a gambling addiction is indeed a difficult thing when an addict still has a budget for gambling and if it is possible that he runs out of budget he still has a way to continue to indulge in the desire to gamble and what I know is that a gambling addict will be able to stop if God reminds him.
I mean a compulsive gambler who finds it difficult to accept advice from other people, they will only become aware and have the desire to stop gambling when they no longer have anything, even they have lost their house, etc. as if they have become addicted and at that time the addict will feel sorry for their actions and want to recover from their addiction.

but all of that still depends on one own commitment because there are many people who have lost whatever they had by gambling and trying to steal, being caught by the police and in prison. after leaving prison, they are still gambling, which means that commitment is very important.

Even when they have run out of money they can take out loans or worse, they can commit crimes that harm them and can even harm them. It is true that you said they will realize after losing money and all their valuable assets such as houses or whatever they have, it is difficult for them to accept advice from others who try to help them get rid of the addiction. But it's a fact and most of them are like that.

And I think those who have tried to quit will also be easily tempted again if they don't have a strong stance and commitment like you said, Even they can undo their intention to stop gambling because they see their friends who get big wins that all gamblers want, So does commitment play an important role in this? or is there something else?
I think there are many other important things and everyone also seems to know the important things related to quitting gambling.

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Quote from: South Park on November 14, 2023, 04:15:47 PM

Quote from: Wakate on November 08, 2023, 02:38:29 PM

when an effected gambler that is addicted with excessive gambling and does not want to stop or reduce the way they gamble, it is always better for people to leave the person alone for them to continue gambling because no matter how hard we try to help the person, the affect gambler might not know the worth. Anybody that is ready to change from being an addicted gambler to being a normal gambler, just little effort from people to help him would work and have a great effect on them. This is why we don't have to force people to stop the lifestyle of excessive gambling if they don't have to adhere to instructions.

It is true we can only help those that want to help themselves, and this is true not only in gambling but in life in general, we see this here when a newbie comes to this forum and wants to invest in a coin that is an obvious scam and forum members try to help them out and suggest they do not do it, but since those newbies believe this is the way to make a lot of money they refuse to listen the advice that we give them, only to lose their investment and come to the forum to tell the story of their failure.

That is a compete tragedy of life and we need to make sure that we don't get deceive because we want to make.more money from different investment. A lot had cried and lost everything through the simple scenerio you just illustrated. There are people that don't listen to anyone opinion even when they ask for advise. They mostly feel like they are okay and knows everything but when they finally got deceived, they will come back crying for their loses not for the mistake they made and ready to make a new leave.

There are also people that listen to other people's opinions based on their state of emotions, they mostly allow emotions to eat them up and they can only take your suggestions when they have made the worse mistake and ready to make adjustments because of their loses.

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Quote from: len01 on November 08, 2023, 02:04:54 PM

Quote from: maydna on November 08, 2023, 06:55:15 AM

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whatever happens, in the end only the family is able to give an addict the strength to quit his addiction. there is no medicine or medical treatment that is the best except family.

so I also often say that if you often engage in gambling activities, it would be better not to hide this activity from your own family at least 1 member of the family must know so that if something bad happens like that, they can provide good support.

The approach taken by his family can be carried out as long as they can find an approach that is suitable for him in treating his gambling addiction. The approach from his family can encourage a gambling addict to see that his family still supports him in being able to cure his gambling addiction and is still with him in every therapy session. Maybe it will give him a quicker time than usual because the encouragement and encouragement from his family can show the gambling addict that he is not alone.

So we should be really careful when gambling, especially if we hide our gambling activities so that no problems will arise after we finish gambling. We also don't want to worry our family if they end up finding out that we are gambling. Maybe it would be better if we really reduce our gambling activities and try to live it as well as possible until we can finally stop gambling.

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Once a person is in that state it is very difficult for them to stop without any help, however even if their family members were willing to help them, it is unlikely they will actually listen as they are not going to believe they cannot recover the money they have lost, it is only once they have lost it all when they finally understand what they have done, but by that time it is too late and there are even some of their family members which will at the time want nothing to do with them as they will be incredibly mad at how irresponsible they were.

regret always comes later and that is what will be experienced by gamblers who have lost everything and they want it all to come back to them. and therefore before it is too late, a gambler must first realize that what they are doing is wrong. even though it is quite difficult to advise them, as the closest people of course we have to be able to give them advice, even in the end they will reject it, but no one can give them advice other than us, the closest people to them.

An addicted person will hardly take your advice because what he seem to be doing will be always correct in his eyes and that because he is never content and the feeling to keep going is always driving him crazy. I kind of believe, the only way an addicted person can help himself is to find out the core cause and discipline himself because if it is only advice then I can bet my money that it won't be easy to stop it.

What you say is true; even most addicted gamblers find it difficult to explain because their minds are closed to changing or reducing their gambling addiction. Unless they themselves initiate that, they really want to change and get rid of their gambling addiction.

Therefore, in the case of a gambling addict, it only proves that it is not easy on their part to make a change in themselves in the world of gambling. But I hope they can overcome it with their own effort.

Not easy as their minds is already polluted and what matters in them is just to keep playing and please the desire that they want, and like both of you are saying without that self-will from the gambler itself there's no changes that will take place, it's needed to come first from the person itself and initiate his desire to quit away,

from that point there are relatives and friends who can help in assisting him to change his direction, even to the point that he needed to have a professional help, it will be hard and nothing can argue with that especially if the level of addiction is already deep.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 15, 2023, 03:03:15 AM

The chances of being able to stop gambling can indeed be said to be very slim, especially if they are already heavily addicted, of course it will be difficult to get rid of the addiction that has been attached and ingrained. Not to mention those who cannot accept advice from other people, friends or family, they can even rebel when advised because their brains have been quasi by gambling so they cannot accept when advised, the main key is in themselves. if they are sure and consistent to stop gambling maybe they can do it, but on the contrary, if they do it without really doing it, it will only be a waste of time.
It's true what you said. People who are already heavily addicted will do anything when they have run out of capital to gamble, even if it is at great risk to them, as you said committing crimes such as stealing or others which essentially with great risk, of course this is clearly endangering themselves. and in the end they will be confused themselves.

stopping a gambling addiction is indeed a difficult thing when an addict still has a budget for gambling and if it is possible that he runs out of budget he still has a way to continue to indulge in the desire to gamble and what I know is that a gambling addict will be able to stop if God reminds him.
I mean a compulsive gambler who finds it difficult to accept advice from other people, they will only become aware and have the desire to stop gambling when they no longer have anything, even they have lost their house, etc. as if they have become addicted and at that time the addict will feel sorry for their actions and want to recover from their addiction.

but all of that still depends on one own commitment because there are many people who have lost whatever they had by gambling and trying to steal, being caught by the police and in prison. after leaving prison, they are still gambling, which means that commitment is very important.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 14, 2023, 07:45:12 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on November 14, 2023, 05:15:10 PM

You are the only ones who could really be able to stop such possible addiction towards gambling on which you wouldnt really be putting yourself on such risks if you are really just that responsible towards your actions on which it would really be just that needed for you to have that control so that you would really be able to get away with that potential addiction which is something that you might be that ending up on a disaster if you arent that mindful towards your actions. Addiction is something a huge problem that you would really be potentially be able to experience if you arent that
something that would really be that responsible towards your gambling activity. You should be aware and you should really be that careful so that you wont really be ending up
on something that most gamblers been experiencing.

Maybe for some people this is not a big problem because they have not yet entered the realm of gambling addiction. However, when someone has become an addicted gambler, it will be very difficult to stop and also to manage it. Not everyone consciously wants to manage themselves to be able to control emotions, enthusiasm, and also various things related to gambling when they are in an addicted condition. this is quite difficult to do. Even though it is possible, the percentage may be very small.

Many cases are found to be the result of addicted gambling, it is true that even worse, they can commit criminal things because they are truly addicted, and have nothing left to gamble on. Because of that, in fact, if someone is really addicted to gambling, one way is to control and also help from people around them and also therapists or psychologists or whatever their names are who really have the skills to handle addicted gamblers. This is not only for online gamblers but also offline. but unfortunately not many people choose to go to them.

The chances of being able to stop gambling can indeed be said to be very slim, especially if they are already heavily addicted, of course it will be difficult to get rid of the addiction that has been attached and ingrained. Not to mention those who cannot accept advice from other people, friends or family, they can even rebel when advised because their brains have been quasi by gambling so they cannot accept when advised, the main key is in themselves. if they are sure and consistent to stop gambling maybe they can do it, but on the contrary, if they do it without really doing it, it will only be a waste of time.
It's true what you said. People who are already heavily addicted will do anything when they have run out of capital to gamble, even if it is at great risk to them, as you said committing crimes such as stealing or others which essentially with great risk, of course this is clearly endangering themselves. and in the end they will be confused themselves.

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