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Topic: Received BFL Jalapeño Today! (Read 40241 times)

sr. member
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BitcoinEvo [$XBTE]
July 02, 2013, 10:36:43 AM
Received Jalapeno, but after 10 minutes of working under BFGMiner it had burned with a smoke.

I see black burned area around chip U15, capacitor C65, mini-USB connector.
Share the views with ass please.........11 month of waiting lol
newbie
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July 02, 2013, 10:24:28 AM
Received Jalapeno, but after 10 minutes of working under BFGMiner it had burned with a smoke.

I see black burned area around chip U15, capacitor C65, mini-USB connector.
hero member
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www.DonateMedia.org
May 19, 2013, 09:41:02 PM
There is a lot of clear bias between the earliest buyers and the later ones that came in as this new information on their scammy personal pasts came out into the open. They are the first to defend BFL.

Could even be denial? If I had $1000s into them I might be too...
legendary
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Merit: 1003
May 19, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
People who allow themselves to remain captive will remain captive until their desire for the carrot changes.

Someone who has held on since June 2012 has a strong incentive to keep their order. The profit motive is strong.

If I threaten them (implied or otherwise by making an example) I can keep you in your place. As long as you desire what I promise to give you, you will remain with me and waiting.

If you ever change your mind and air it, you will suffer the loss of the premise (whether real or imagined) to make a profit. Therefore, I can control you simply by bringing your desire to profit under control.

It is super basic but anyone can understand that much. People in abusive or dangerous relationships don't stop being rational. They simply have their desires mixed up or their understandings of the situation...severely distorted.

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But then again, as any shill will point out, this is all theory and has nothing at all to do with BFL as they are not keeping anyone hostage. No, they are not even involuntarily canceling orders without a persons permission to penalize them for speaking out.

Correct? (This is where you say "yes")
legendary
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Christian Antkow
May 19, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Stockholm syndrome  does not apply here becuase you  are a hostage by choice from the beginning.
Carrot and horse analogy works. proceed.

Hostage and Choice are mutually exclusive initially.

... From Wikipedia

Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them, and sometimes the feeling of love for the captor shows. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.[1][2] The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.[3]

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.”[4] One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they no longer become a threat.[5]

Battered-person syndrome is an example of activating the capture–bonding psychological mechanism, as are military basic training and fraternity bonding by hazing.[6][7][8]

Stockholm syndrome is sometimes erroneously referred to as Helsinki syndrome.[9][10]
sr. member
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May 19, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
You are missing the point, you were never kidnapped.  You got into the white van willingly. In fact you paid to get in the van and put hte hood on your  own head.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
May 19, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
Stockholm syndrome is being held captive. People could have bailed on their bfl order anytime. So, try a diff analogy.

I don't think you understand the psychology behind Stockholm Syndrome. Kidnap victims never start out loving their captors.

 
sr. member
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May 19, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
 Stockholm syndrome  does not apply here becuase you  are a hostage by choice from the beginning.
Carrot and horse analogy works. proceed.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1003
May 19, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
Stockholm syndrome is being held captive. People could have bailed on their bfl order anytime. So, try a diff analogy.
Captive held by "profit seeking" is still being willfully captive.

I will ship you a money making machine that will change your income stream by 5 figures in one month. (The Promise/Premise)

But you will have to wait for it. (The Carrot)

If you complain, I will find out who you are and I will cancel your order, understand? (The Stick)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premise
sr. member
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May 19, 2013, 08:54:37 PM
Stockholm syndrome is being held captive. People could have bailed on their bfl order anytime. So, try a diff analogy.
hero member
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www.DonateMedia.org
May 19, 2013, 08:51:29 PM
+10000 I'm also astonished to all these BFL haters. I think i'm leaving this parts of the Forum for good !

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Date Registered: May 09, 2011, 04:25:51 PM

Not sure if this parts of the forum can survive without you. But OK, go back to BFL forums  Wink

No more 10 posts newbie jail anymore ?

Also Stockholm Syndrome is a helluva thing.

+1

Not sure what was expected making up any thread on BFL here. The last time you will find anything positive was about....12 months ago
legendary
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Christian Antkow
May 19, 2013, 07:49:16 PM
+10000 I'm also astonished to all these BFL haters. I think i'm leaving this parts of the Forum for good !

Code:
Posts: 4
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: May 09, 2011, 04:25:51 PM

Not sure if this parts of the forum can survive without you. But OK, go back to BFL forums  Wink

No more 10 posts newbie jail anymore ?

Also Stockholm Syndrome is a helluva thing.
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
May 19, 2013, 07:43:07 PM
+10000 I'm also astonished to all these BFL haters. I think i'm leaving this parts of the Forum for good !

Code:
Posts: 4
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: May 09, 2011, 04:25:51 PM

Not sure if this parts of the forum can survive without you. But OK, go back to BFL forums  Wink
newbie
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May 19, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Just an observation:

I have taken interest in reading through the threads popping up from people who have received at the ASIC 5 gig miner (the artist previously known as Jalapeno). In almost everyone of the threads the same small contingent of users have substantively hijacked the thread in what appears to be an attempt to proselytize others to their dislike (hate) of all things butterfly labs. If they are preorder customers why have they not gotten a refund and moved on with their life and if not customers what is the motivation behind the seemingly relentless posts regarding BFL? I find the time and energy spent fascinating and I am curious to the underlying motivations. Can any of the ministers of the Church of BFL haters shed any light on their compulsion? I do not intend to debate your position, it is well know and established. I am merely curious of its origins of the sentiment and the gusto to which you apply it.

+1

I am also curious.

+1000
It's obvious a few users have made it their goal to destroy this forum. I avoid reading anything from bitcointalk.org anymore. In fact when I find it necessary to read the forums I'm forced to skim through pages of absolute junk from the same hateful people. It used to be a great resource and had a good community. Now it's full of hate mongers.

+10000 I'm also astonished to all these BFL haters. I think i'm leaving this parts of the Forum for good !
full member
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May 13, 2013, 11:46:43 PM

For a $149 investment it'll repay itself and make $1300 on top in one month of mining.

Think again. You paid about 23 BTC 10 months ago. You'll make .3 btc/day. Even if the difficulty doesn't skyrocket (which it will), you need more than 2 months to just break even. You aren't making any profit for a long time.

Scared is right to be happy because he invested 149$ in the bitcoin currency (through the jalapeno)
and his return will be 149+ $ (actually thousands of them).

Scared will be right to be happy that he invested in the bitcoin currency through the jalapeno
instead of directly buying bitcoins when his jalapeno will mine for him more than 23 BTC.

Will it?

23 BTC is now worth....3266.03226 USD (or about 22 jalepenos)

So...how about someone do some math on the difficulty going up with a constant period of adjustment. What will it take to get back the 23BTC?

Ironically, with a 17% bi-weekly hash rate increase going forward (what we've averaged for the last 3 months), he will earn (wait for it...) 23 BTC in 1.5 years. And then switch it off. [EDIT: it will be a few more than this as he turned it on a few days ago]
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
May 13, 2013, 01:35:21 AM
According to the latest official BFL update more chips will be packaged in the week beginning 20 May, which means BFL should get them during the last week of May and probably start working through June 2012 orders late this month or in June.  The few hundred chips they have this week will only last for a handful of units.  The timeline seems to be timed to perfection (the chips work as expected with new revision boards, etc).  As we've seen in the past this is often not the case.


Could you provide a citation for the latest BFL report? I'd like to read what they have to say.
Thanks Wink

+1 me too.
legendary
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May 13, 2013, 01:19:32 AM
According to the latest official BFL update more chips will be packaged in the week beginning 20 May, which means BFL should get them during the last week of May and probably start working through June 2012 orders late this month or in June.  The few hundred chips they have this week will only last for a handful of units.  The timeline seems to be timed to perfection (the chips work as expected with new revision boards, etc).  As we've seen in the past this is often not the case.


Could you provide a citation for the latest BFL report? I'd like to read what they have to say.
Thanks Wink
legendary
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May 13, 2013, 01:10:22 AM
According to the latest official BFL update more chips will be packaged in the week beginning 20 May, which means BFL should get them during the last week of May and probably start working through June 2012 orders late this month or in June.  The few hundred chips they have this week will only last for a handful of units.  The timeline seems to be timed to perfection (the chips work as expected with new revision boards, etc).  As we've seen in the past this is often not the case.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
May 13, 2013, 12:23:38 AM
Guess you never heard the saying 2 wrongs don't make a right? If you think he's a liar, then lying yourself makes you what? Righteous?

If you missed it he was speculating, not lying. Let's stick to the facts.





Just based on that alone if I was the one running a scam investigation into BFL I'd stick to the facts and be a little plainer about what I had against the company personally.

Fact: BFL collected preorders 7 11 months ago and projected October 2012 delivery.

Fact: BFL is associated with Sonny V., who has a criminal record of mail fraud.

Fact: Delivery of BFL ASICs was pushed back to November, December, January, and now end of February, March, April, May...

Fact: BFL DID NOT bring a working prototype to demo at CES thus proving they don't have a working prototype to showcase their specs the list on their site.

Fact: Josh gave no guarantees that the timeline he posted a few days ago will hold up. (even given all of the 7 months leeway so far)

Fact: Those who have preorders with BFL are biased.

Fact: Josh/Inaba is the worst PR for BFL they could have in place. Who cares if people troll his ass. He is a public figure that represents BFL which tarnishes the name Butterfly Labs.



Fact: Customers are still waiting. BFL has not delivered as promised. More lies, excuses, delays...blah blah blah.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
May 12, 2013, 09:05:45 PM
Guess you never heard the saying 2 wrongs don't make a right? If you think he's a liar, then lying yourself makes you what? Righteous?

TIL that conjecture == lying
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