Topic: Received BFL Jalapeño Today! - page 4. (Read 40284 times)

Is he even addressing anybody anymore, or is this the dialogue the comes out when a BFL_ Josh doesn't "work" right?

Here's cause and effect.  Cocky Asshole -> Unintended/intended ponzi scheme.

I mean, someone invests $30K into you and you call them stupid.  Obviously you have no shame about your inside out anus.  You have to be angrier, and less gay, if you want this thing to blow up like you hoped, but the way you keep company you can only have "friends" that you pity.

Sad Josh, his scheme isn't making him happier.

I just wonder how long it's going to take before we all find out that the 6 "burnt out" (missing) wafers with no proof of insurance ended up in someone's facility.  Bitcoin fans will regard the legacy of Bitcoin, and the act of hunting you and prosecuting you (by the law of whatever man catches you), will be part an epic chapter of how BTC became more secure, and more trusted.  (Hopefully they don't kill you in the end, but that might depend on how stubborn you are in turning over your wallet)

While the statement that he's waiting on test lab certification was weaselly enough to make some lawyers blush, it's not false.  In fact, it's still true.

Since the actual certification for a non-transmitting device should take only 2-3 days, one could charitably presume that he was hoping to get a device in for testing within a week or two or three, and that the timeframe wouldn't be far off.  If one were feeling charitable.  If it were actually in a lab, he wouldn't have needed the "maybe," which is a tip that he wasn't being entirely forthright at the time, and knew it, so I'll concede the point that they were being intentionally misleading.  But you could also infer that they thought they were close enough to having working devices that the statement wouldn't turn out to be false.

Still... blame it on malice, or unbridled/irrational optimism?  I've worked with a lot of project managers that wouldn't even admit to themselves when a deadline was slipping, and somehow managed to be shocked when all of the milestone delays turned into a missed shipping date.  It didn't make them bad people, just bad project managers.

That BFL has managed this project badly has been acknowledged by, I think, everyone involved in the discussion, even BFL.

Just believe in your heart of hearts that Inaba will do no wrong. If he says something, it is always true. TRUST HIM.

Just do it.®


(Master BFL Shill)

Dam and they say you don't learn anything from these forums !  TY ! - i am certainly going to use that in a sentence tomorrow !

Give Inaba your money! NOW

He WILL pull through...trust me. Just...trust me.

(Master BFL Shill)

Thats right!

There was just a delay in sending it to the post office and FCC for 7 plus months. These things happen!

Why can't you folks understand and accept it?

Yes, we are total wastes of flesh, but he is not. Because he is "Special". That is why no one depends on us for delivery. Only on him. It is unfortunate that he has missed his shipping date more than 15 times. But this sort of things happen. ASIC are HARD.  

(Looks over at his Avalon ASIC and thinks those Chinese engineers must have super [genetically engineered] scientist working 24x7 to have made it in three months and ahead of schedule. What a fearsome people!)

How can you expect Inaba, with more money weighing him down, and more resources....to complete it in such a short time?! Does he look genetically engineered to you?! He is a mere mortal! "Special" Mortals can only do so much in 170+ days. We don't all have access to ASIC engineers of that kind of quality and experience!


(Master BFL Shill)

Shakes fist ANGRILY: "Thats not truuee!"

You liar!

You can totally give people an e-money printing machine and that will neither affect their income or their attitude. You ASSUME too much. You ASSume that they will make that e-currency into fiat USD and thereby affect their opinions.

Where is your proof of that? HUH? Where? Post it Damnit!?

(Master BFL Shill)

From the Advertise on this forum - Round 80

Why spend 22.75 BTC advertising on a forum that isn't relevant to mining hardware?

Little known fact; a bag of dicks contains exactly 17 dicks.  It is known as a "hooker's dozen".

Yet another evasion. Josh never addresses how in November he claimed to have 3 working products sent for certification testing. Yet the Jalapeno as designed was untenable and could never have worked. The mini-rig was an absolute fantasy given its 7500W power profile. One Single barely limped into the dubious category of shipped without leaving BFL on April 1st. We now know BFL had serious problems with development (finally). If you had just admitted that you needed to do a complete redesign in October, I wouldn't be here typing this.


Followed by his standard tactic of insulting those who dare to disagree or question him.

At first I have to admit I also felt some of these guys were "over the top" and should relax but now I completely understand. There are so many shady characters in the Bitcoin community that many feel the need to root them out and reveal the bullshit, for better or worse. Josh does have a pretty thick smoke screen but there is one basic fact that many of these vigilantes above are trying to make everyone aware of. Josh/BFL has been saying "just a few more weeks" over and over for months and months WAY past the point of credibility. All of these other tedious arguments/insults/etc are really just a distraction from this main point. I don't have the time nor passion to constantly call Josh out so kudos to those that do...

Bolded is where you down played the problems and made them seem not as bad as they really were...

hence all of your "2 more weeks"..."shipping soon"..."oct, nov, dec, jan, feb, mar, apr"

Oh and your insults only show how shallow you really are. Can't have a civil discussion without getting all emotional? Butthurt much? LOL

So why is the 5 GH/s unit shipping without FCC approval?

Yep, to be classified as a BFL shill on Bitcointalk, you must:

a) Be rational
b) Be able to evaluate what you read without rage and bias
c) Post according to your evaluation
d) Not be mentally unbalanced

That's the only requirements to be a BFL shill.

I was wondering what steps one might take in order to become a BFL shill?  Is there a form to fill out?  I want my jalapeños early and am willing to sell my soul to BFL to get mine so I can start mining before difficulty starts to suck.
 
So could someone PM me the URL for the application process?
 
Thanks in advance!

Garsh!  I wonder why we've been delayed?  It couldn't be because there was a problem, could there?  Garsh!  

The level of stupidity displayed by Syke and the crew is absolutely astounding.  I mean, even a child can understand problem + delay = things not working.  Seriously, what mental breakdown is required for someone to be so oblivious as to not understand the basic fundamental principal of cause and effect?  I find it difficult to believe someone can be so incredibly stupid and still be able to use a computer.  So that leaves willful trolling... which pretty much explains Syke and the rest.

And that, folks, is why Syke, PuertoLibre, k9quaint, et al are complete wastes of humanity.  They are the ones that wreck this forum for everyone else and prevent any sort of sane, rational, mature discourse.

Here is the most definitive statement he made about it on bitcointalk (that I have found so far)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
Here is SgtSpike himself asking the same question on the BFL forums at the end of January:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/690-13-jan-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-41.html
There was no answer as far as I could find in Josh's post history.

I'm trying to find the original for that, but Google isn't being my friend today.  Can you help?

And yeah, the whole "shipping before April" and bet thing was a clusterfuck.

You seem a reasonable sort by your post history. But you didn't even mention BFL until April 1st, and then you posted in the shipping bet thread. I believe we were discussing the people who have been "constantly trolling" in BFL threads. I wouldn't count your post history as someone who has been consistently participating in the discussion. Josh labels the people who post counter arguments to his claims as "trolls" and there was just a small number of us and it is the same old people. My counter assertion was that from our point of view, the people who disagree with Josh are a varied lot (except for PuertoLibre who has been here from the start) and it was just Josh and Kano who have been "trolling" in the BFL threads consistently. Josh especially by calling people douches, liars, trolls, etc.

SgtSpike has been around a lot as well.

You seem to support BFL's claims that they were just mistaken and there was no malice involved. Let us examine just one "mistake" for the moment:
How can you explain their statement that all 3 devices were sent for FCC testing (according to Josh in Nov 2012) at the same time and should be certified in 2 weeks. Fast forward to March, when there was only 1 device operating and it remained on the BFL premises (according to Luke) but somehow "shipped" to Luke. 3 working products supposedly sent to the FCC in November, I presume the 5, 25, and 50 GH/s devices. The Jalapeno could not have existed because it could not be powered by USB, it drew too much wattage, let alone the heat problems requiring them to use 25GH/s case and heatsink for it. Yet somehow, they sent a working version of all these devices to be certified? How on earth could the Chief Operations Officer be so out of touch with the state of BFL's products that he could make this mistake?