Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! - page 19.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 19, 2013, 08:31:17 PM

To all of you that seem concerned about Garr using a sockpuppet account: I was refreshing this thread constantly when Inaba accused Garr of using a sockpuppet account to post and I never saw that happen. I think Inaba photoshopped the image he used. Think about it a minute. Who constantly snap screenshots so fast that they could catch a posting that couldn't have been here for more than a few seconds.

Ok, then we need to ask Theymos if the IP address matches for both Garr/Werner accounts. Either Garr255/Werner is committing fraud or Inaba is committing libel. One has got to go.

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Quote from: josiasrdz on June 19, 2013, 08:27:16 PM

"werner" is the first shady thing that garr has done...I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt until bfl delivers his order so that he can explain his side of the story without fear of bfl's "costumer service".

Said Werner 2.0?

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To all of you that seem concerned about Garr using a sockpuppet account: I was refreshing this thread constantly when Inaba accused Garr of using a sockpuppet account to post and I never saw that happen. I think Inaba photoshopped the image he used. Think about it a minute. Who constantly snap screenshots so fast that they could catch a posting that couldn't have been here for more than a few seconds.

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"werner" is the first shady thing that garr has done...I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt until bfl delivers his order so that he can explain his side of the story without fear of bfl's "costumer service".

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Slok: Oh, wow... ya I missed that.

I retract my previous statement.

I can't stand people that have multiple accounts.. so shady...

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Holy crap this is entertaining. Getting to the last response is like watching all of the firefly episodes in a day...MOAR

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Quote from: silverfuture on June 19, 2013, 07:59:02 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 19, 2013, 07:55:14 PM

It seems Garr's hands are tied behind his back, cut him some slack.

He cannot refute the claims for fear of his orders being cancelled. Cancelled orders would not only hurt him, but his mining company (and investors), and people that have purchased some of his orders.

Stop being silly insisting he explain himself... maybe after his orders are delivered, we can revisit this issue.

But until then, it is heartless to insist he explain himself with the possibility of his order being cancelled if he does.

+1 Garr is being blackmailed with the threat of having his order cancelled to claim ownership of that account.

Did you all miss this? Quickly deleted by Garr/Werner but not quickly enough.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2517717
later replaced by...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2517634

Quote from: Werner on June 19, 2013, 02:57:32 AM

I am laughing hysterically... This obscene adult is being shown up by a seventeen year old who runs his business flawlessly!!!

Sure, lick yourself if no one else will?
"I did not bid up those auctions.", right...

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Quote from: erk on June 19, 2013, 08:01:36 PM

Quote from: MooC Tals on June 19, 2013, 07:56:45 PM

Yup BFL is going down BRO!

So even your avatar is a smear with offensive language and attempts at defamation. You would be banned on most forums I frequent.

Good thing I'm not there.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 19, 2013, 07:55:14 PM

It seems Garr's hands are tied behind his back, cut him some slack.

He cannot refute the claims for fear of his orders being cancelled. Cancelled orders would not only hurt him, but his mining company (and investors), and people that have purchased some of his orders.

Stop being silly insisting he explain himself... maybe after his orders are delivered, we can revisit this issue.

But until then, it is heartless to insist he explain himself with the possibility of his order being cancelled if he does.

Fair enough. If Theymos can confirm that the IP address from today's Werner post matches the IP from the Garr255 post(s), then we can close this.

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Quote from: silverfuture on June 19, 2013, 07:59:02 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 19, 2013, 07:55:14 PM

It seems Garr's hands are tied behind his back, cut him some slack.

He cannot refute the claims for fear of his orders being cancelled. Cancelled orders would not only hurt him, but his mining company (and investors), and people that have purchased some of his orders.

Stop being silly insisting he explain himself... maybe after his orders are delivered, we can revisit this issue.

But until then, it is heartless to insist he explain himself with the possibility of his order being cancelled if he does.

+1 Garr is being blackmailed with the threat of having his order cancelled to claim ownership of that account.

Exactly, we're gonna have to wait until bfl delivers garr order to know the complete story. I was interested in buying chips from bfl, but now I'am going to take my chances with avalon and asicminer...hopefully kncminer will prove to be legit so that we have more options to chose from

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Quote from: MooC Tals on June 19, 2013, 07:56:45 PM

Yup BFL is going down BRO!

So even your avatar is a smear with offensive language and attempts at defamation. You would be banned on most forums I frequent.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 19, 2013, 07:55:14 PM

It seems Garr's hands are tied behind his back, cut him some slack.

He cannot refute the claims for fear of his orders being cancelled. Cancelled orders would not only hurt him, but his mining company (and investors), and people that have purchased some of his orders.

Stop being silly insisting he explain himself... maybe after his orders are delivered, we can revisit this issue.

But until then, it is heartless to insist he explain himself with the possibility of his order being cancelled if he does.

+1 Garr is being blackmailed with the threat of having his order cancelled to claim ownership of that account.

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Quote from: Xian01 on June 19, 2013, 06:31:13 PM

On a related note, someone posted this old nugget on Reddit about Ocean Marketing / Paul Christoforo that is somewhat apropos.

It's a worthwhile read.

http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/27/ocean-marketing-how-to-self-destruct-your-company-with-just-a-few-measly-emails/

Yup BFL is going down BRO!

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It seems Garr's hands are tied behind his back, cut him some slack.

He cannot refute the claims for fear of his orders being cancelled. Cancelled orders would not only hurt him, but his mining company (and investors), and people that have purchased some of his orders.

Stop being silly insisting he explain himself... maybe after his orders are delivered, we can revisit this issue.

But until then, it is heartless to insist he explain himself with the possibility of his order being cancelled if he does.

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Maybe he has a split personality, each with a separate account.

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Quote from: Garr255 on June 19, 2013, 07:33:58 PM

I can't believe what's happening here...

I did not bid up those auctions. I am not arguing the accusation that the werner account is under my control because I want to keep my BFL orders! Otherwise, believe me: I would be!

I have always been known to be one of the most transparent and trustworthy people around here. Sure a few btc might seem significant to some of you, but please be assured that I'm not going to SCAM people out of a few coins, because I value my reputation much more than that!

I'm genuinely disgusted with the outcome of this. Again: I'm going to hold to that apology because it is my fiduciary duty to do so, no matter what it does to my reputation.

Apologies for the mass confusion.

Then why did you apologize publicly for it? :

Quote from: Garr255 on June 19, 2013, 03:54:13 AM

In order for me to keep my pre-orders Josh is making me do the following:

Apologize Publicly for calling Josh and BFL liars
Admit "Werner" is a sock puppet account uner my control
Apologize for using "Werner" to troll him

Therefore, in the best interest of Cognitive, the people who have purchased pre-orders from me, and myself:

Dear Inaba and BFL:

     Sorry for calling you liars. Werner is a sock puppet account under my control. Sorry for utilizing said account to "troll" you.

                                         With regret,
                                                     Garr255

Also, I apologize to all who I may have put at risk by speculating that BFL may have been acting in a dishonest fashion. If I had known that the cancellation of orders placed by me would result of this I would not have acted in such a way, as that would be a direct violation of the fiduciary duty imposed on me by handling others' assets.

There are two options here.

A. You are Werner, which you have admitted to, the screenshot shows, and Werner's post history now starts to raise further questions and link the two accounts.

or B. You are not Werner, and lied in your apology.

Which is it? Are you really acting for your shareholders right now? Do you think they are comfortable with you then coming back here and saying this:

Quote from: Garr255 on June 19, 2013, 07:33:58 PM

I am not arguing the accusation that the werner account is under my control because I want to keep my BFL orders! Otherwise, believe me: I would be!

Because that would very much confirm B, and confirm you lied, and that could potentially put your order status back into jeopardy.

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Quote from: Garr255 on June 19, 2013, 07:33:58 PM

I can't believe what's happening here...

I did not bid up those auctions. I am not arguing the accusation that the werner account is under my control because I want to keep my BFL orders! Otherwise, believe me: I would be!

I have always been known to be one of the most transparent and trustworthy people around here. I'm sure a few btc might seem significant to some of you, but please be assured that I'm not going to SCAM people out of a few coins, because I value my reputation much more than that!

I'm genuinely disgusted with the outcome of this. Again: I'm going to hold to that apology because it is my fiduciary duty to do so, no matter what it does to my reputation.

Apologies for the mass confusion.

It's proven. You were caught. The Werner account, in your words, is yours. Your statement "I did not bid up those auctions" would implicate that someone else posting higher bids on your auctions... which would only make you more coin in the end.

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What's a GPU?

I can't believe what's happening here...

I did not bid up those auctions. I am not arguing the accusation that the werner account is under my control because I want to keep my BFL orders! Otherwise, believe me: I would be!

I have always been known to be one of the most transparent and trustworthy people around here. I'm sure a few btc might seem significant to some of you, but please be assured that I'm not going to SCAM people out of a few coins, because I value my reputation much more than that!

I'm genuinely disgusted with the outcome of this. Again: I'm going to hold to that apology because it is my fiduciary duty to do so, no matter what it does to my reputation.

Apologies for the mass confusion.

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