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November 21, 2024, 06:42:53 AM
#91
There is no way to limit a gambler from continuing to access the casino because in this era of technological development, no matter how strong the casino is, in the end the gambler always has a way to be able to bet on a particular casino.
Now we are all here to give our respective opinions and for me I will give an example of a fiat online casino that always tries to block the IP and device of a gambler, they can still bet using their family member's account or their own friend's.
So the more technology develops, the casino will not be able to overcome this. Because out there there are so many very smart people.
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November 21, 2024, 04:33:56 AM
#90
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Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee.
LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

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That is also a problem. Poor government governance of people's personal identities is something that needs to be considered, because often "criminals" use other people's personal data that they get from hacking government databases or data leak trading sites. This problem is morally detrimental to the people whose data is used because they don't know about the data and suddenly it is used either for crypto projects or registering on gambling sites.
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November 21, 2024, 04:03:30 AM
#89
This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.
Excessive addiction is difficult to cure and even if they are kicked out or humiliated it will not have any effect on them. Addiction in gambling does look abnormal because this kind of person will do anything to be involved in gambling, whether it is fraudulent or not. Even if the casino enforces strict rules, there are times when fraudsters will continue to find ways to do something to cheat. That happens because the level of intelligence of a person in cheating can be seen from how far they have mastered technology and now there are many people who have the quality to do it.
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November 21, 2024, 03:55:19 AM
#88
The darknet is full of documents ready for sale. Packages of documents are sold for any needs and contain a lot of information. But besides this, some people are ready to provide their documents themselves for some temporary and small benefit. For me, this looks like "walking a tightrope," since once you show your identity online, you remain there forever, and the consequences for everyone can look extremely dangerous. Starting with loans taken out in someone else's name and ending with any crimes that may be of great interest to the police. There are many options here. Therefore, it is necessary not to scatter through verification every time you are asked, but to do it in extreme cases, each time protecting even the information provided.
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November 21, 2024, 01:28:59 AM
#87
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
Well, casinos will not just block your account, but I do not see it your way, they might do that for genuine or ingenuine reasons, we've read many cases and some casinos have even resolved some of them by taking responsibility and apologising to the customer. This proves that they can indeed make errors or even be overbearing in their service, that's why we should be making them accountable at times. Also, we have too many unscrupulous customers who are bent to cheat casinos and the bonus purpose example you cited is one out of many. But still, if such customers use the documents of their friends for verification and later abandon the account, this still means nothing. Why is the account blocked if I may ask you from your point?
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November 21, 2024, 12:39:38 AM
#86
This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.
Yes, if they return to the same casino and avoids the ban that they got, that is just show you that you are addicted to gambling. You don't know how to stop yourself from playing gambling and the intention to have another account in that casino proves to you that you can not let yourself stay away from gambling for a while. Yes, they even use other people's identities to verify the account and take the bonus. But they forget that the casino can know easily because they have a system that can check all of their members and make sure that they don't let the abuser comes.
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November 21, 2024, 12:05:25 AM
#85
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.
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November 20, 2024, 10:31:45 PM
#84
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
I have read the article to which you provided through the link, and have got the massage it is passing across which is a delicate message that people should be fully awear to avoid being set up. Because from this strategy a person may put you in trouble by just using your identity for registration of any only stuff that requires kyc. And if such register ACC is found with an ilicite or fraudulent activities the owner of the kyc document will be held responsible with or without your knowledge because your documents has proven to be you. The best way to stay safe is to be careful with who we give our identity documents to avoid being impersonated .
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November 20, 2024, 10:26:46 PM
#83
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
The cheater will still find a way to cheat the casino, even if it is tightened, the cheater will change their ways to keep breaking it. I think what casinos do to resolve their problem is take care of them. if that is indeed the casino case, invite them to come nicely, engage them in the discussion, and ask them what they want so that it continues to interfere with the business. Explain to them why their activities very disruptive to your business. So if they still remains like that, then your next action is call police and and track down where they live.
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November 20, 2024, 09:06:25 PM
#82
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

Casinos will not be able to completely block players, because players have various ways to get past every block from the casino, they can even find ways that other players may not have thought of yet. Casinos can only reduce the abuse that players do in their casinos, but there will always be loopholes to fix, but this problem has always existed


This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

When you have done KYC even just once and on a website that you believe is trustworthy, then the chance of your personal data being leaked is there, and our activity in the online world makes it difficult for us to keep our personal data safe, hackers will use methods to hack and steal people's personal data.
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November 20, 2024, 04:40:25 PM
#81
More reasons why government still ban different casino due to common mistakes and act gamblers display. The best way IMO involves government ban. If this act continue I’m sure they’ll go as far as using personal verification for other purpose not just gambling leading to more risk. I’m not surprised seeing such news with the rate gamblers go just to play and win is unpredictable, how can one protect their details should be the important question now, nothing is safe especially when it’s expose to wider audience etc definitely or maybe they’re involved also.
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November 20, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
#80
Things like this are proof that in the end, regardless of the existence of KYC or not, everything can still be tricked and in my opinion something like this is bound to happen and may even become a common situation even though this method is clearly against the rules because it could become a criminal act if it continues to be forced to use other people's data.

Not that KYC is a bad thing but on some occasions for some people who really want anonymity or people who are only focused on their desire for profit sometimes can do this way so that they remain unrecognizable and still want to do gambling.
Will this be a disadvantage? technically for casinos it may not be affected but it is a different story for people whose data is used, maybe this is also divided for those who consciously lend their data but what about data that is taken without the person's knowledge of course this will be very detrimental in the end.
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November 20, 2024, 04:15:23 PM
#79
It will be difficult to limit them, because there are many ways they can access gambling sites, not only IP, but they can also use fake devices, so the stricter the casino site, the more they will find many ways to still be able to access online sites.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 04:10:08 PM
#78
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

While you might argue it's a bit unfair to the casino that groups are creating arbitrage betting opportunities by taking over accounts that are freely lent to them, these bookmakers are making such huge profits that it's hard to have much sympathy when people are able to figure out a way to take money back from them. As long as there is no fraud taking place, like identity theft or using stolen cards, then good for the people that are allowing this to happen I say - if they were actually placing the bets directly and taking a small commission then it would be completely undetectable. It seems safe in the sense that no KYC documents are likely to be exposed after the account is validated, but I personally would never take the trade because it does still pose risks.
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November 20, 2024, 03:36:12 PM
#77
This type of gambling is not new here, and in my ear, even in this forum, there have been some few times I have come across threads on the service board where the OP asks to buy some high-profile gambling account of a specific casino, and they must be verified, which they could also be used for such type of betting. 
 
On the other hand, sometimes the user doesn't just give out their information willingly for it to be used by others to register and gamble with them on a gambling platform, but their identity can be bought from dark webs, where, from one breach of a platform, they submitted it to their information, which has been extracted and sold out.
 
It's very important we just try as much as possible to always protect the limit at which we release our information to online platforms; you don't know which ones are selling them to third parties.
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November 20, 2024, 03:27:52 PM
#76
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Cheaters and violators are very innovative; they know how the system works and they will do things to bypass that; they will just change the provider and log in from a different device, but they will still be caught because some casinos are using Google coordinates to track your location. Even though you changed your IP and device, you might as well change your location.
So the point is that it's costly and takes too much effort to bypass the security, so its better just to abide by the terms and not cheat.
There's always a way and if you are really that wanting or liking to do something then its part of human nature that you will really be trying out to look for some loopholes as long you could be able to push through then this would really be that your main priority. There are really just that those instances that you might fail but doesnt mean that you will be stopping there.
People would be only stopping on the time or moment that they do failed up or seeing having no chances. Restrictions or bans will really be imposed depending on the situation
but we do know that there would really be those people who would really be doing something forcibly.
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November 20, 2024, 02:54:58 PM
#75
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
If you would really be trying out to wander around on social media on which you would really be able to see those individuals who do offer such service on creating some fake id's with having fake information and names on which this is really that something be used by those people who are really that addicted to gambling on which with so much progress we do have into these years on which it will really be  that not hard on trying out to create or fabricate some fake ID's just to make use in to those other purposes on which this isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things well on which if they are really that addicted or really that wanting to deal up with something then they will really be finding up ways and methods on which they can make use of it.

If you are already that becoming a gambling addict then you would really be finding out ways and methods on which you could be able to play neither online or offline by using up those fake id's or information.
You wouldnt really be caring out as long you do able to cater out your addiction on which this is something which is really that typical. One of the main reasons on why gambling is really that profitable
business into its owners due to that common human being behavior on which this is something that cant be easily be avoided.
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November 20, 2024, 02:35:32 PM
#74
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Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee.
LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

And some people also consciously sell their IDs for just a few dollars only, and this has happened in almost all crypto and gambling sectors.
But more often than not, crypto projects require KYC and will then get quite expensive coin rewards.
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November 20, 2024, 02:16:14 PM
#73
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Cheaters and violators are very innovative; they know how the system works and they will do things to bypass that; they will just change the provider and log in from a different device, but they will still be caught because some casinos are using Google coordinates to track your location. Even though you changed your IP and device, you might as well change your location.
So the point is that it's costly and takes too much effort to bypass the security, so its better just to abide by the terms and not cheat.
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November 20, 2024, 02:13:29 PM
#72
Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

In an online gambling platform, as long as the gambling platform does not impose a strict KYC where players have to do a video verification, or allow an anonymous gambling then it would be hard for the casino to restrict ban gambler from using their platform since these banned gambler will just register again bypassing the ban through creating a new account.

I do not think that an online casino can ban a player for good since they can be able to access the platform anytime this banned player wanted and I think the casino try to combat this exploit by implementing KYC before a player is able to withdraw any funds.  By that there is no reason for the gambler to use the platform because he won't be able to withdraw any of his winnings due to the restrictions imploemented.
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