Rocketpot.io refusing/delaying to pay out 170k win. AGREEMENT MADE - page 3.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 10, 2022, 04:59:22 AM

Yep, as long as the gambler haven't did anything wrong, why does the casino reserve the right to cancel the promotion? lol. That's like when gamblers won big amount on their casino, they become mad and didn't want to pay the winning, since they have a rule to cancel the promotion, he can confiscate the winning amount of the gamblers. Trusted casino wouldn't do that and Rocketpot already survived for many years.

They have a good intention to pay $16K few days ago, I don't smell they will scam @OP at the current situation so far.

I think that it is not so much to the Rocketpot.io to become a scam. Yet, as you said, they paid $16k, that means they are ready to pay. I`m sure that no one wants to pay some part of the big prize and after that become a scam - it`s better not to pay.
But the same time i think that they will pay with their rules - $10k per week and $20k per month. It may be useful to their money statistic not to show a big win in one month.

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Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal later as they’re in CET time zone. Will post here when/if that gets processed. Hoping to get the final update on if they’ll be honouring full amount of winnings as well as it’s now been over a week. Will keep you all updated

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Quote from: mak013 on July 10, 2022, 12:29:51 AM

I don`t think that they will use this paragraph in this situation. This will be the same as to steal gamblers money and after that they will be no trust to casino. If they want to use this paragraph they can steal all gamblers money and close. It uses mostly for cheaters that find something that helps them to cheat casino without punishment.

Yep, as long as the gambler haven't did anything wrong, why does the casino reserve the right to cancel the promotion? lol. That's like when gamblers won big amount on their casino, they become mad and didn't want to pay the winning, since they have a rule to cancel the promotion, he can confiscate the winning amount of the gamblers. Trusted casino wouldn't do that and Rocketpot already survived for many years.

They have a good intention to pay $16K few days ago, I don't smell they will scam @OP at the current situation so far.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on June 30, 2022, 05:48:33 AM

Well I went to their terms and read regarding the ^{[Promotions and Bonuses]} it seems very risky condition, I think you must read it carefully and understand if you did not violate the rules, but as they have said there.
^{[ 9.5. Rocketpot may amend, reclaim, refuse or cancel any promotion at any time at its own discretion ]}
Let us hope that their team will answer this thread as ^[efialtis] said above, that is a great help to this issue and also may not ruin their reputation since their ANN thread ^[1] was inactive recently.
^{[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-rocketpotio-2500-games-10-cashback-5178376}

While gambling companies are free to stipulate anything under their TOS, that kind of stipulation, however, may be attended with too much discretionary powers to them. They must at least have some basis in order to cancel, amend, or refuse any promotion. Though it is under their discretionary powers, they must act within without any grave abuse to keep their playerbase strong.

I hope OP you continue to update us regarding this issue as this truly baffles my mind.

I don`t think that they will use this paragraph in this situation. This will be the same as to steal gamblers money and after that they will be no trust to casino. If they want to use this paragraph they can steal all gamblers money and close. It uses mostly for cheaters that find something that helps them to cheat casino without punishment.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

You are doing the right thing by keep the forum members informed about your situation, even if takes a lot of time as long as you are paid what you are owed then at best this is just going to be a long uncomfortable period for you, as you will need more than a year to get your winnings, however as soon as they refuse then you can comeback to the community with that information as it seems to me that you have done everything that you can to follow their TOS and as such you are owed that money.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on June 30, 2022, 05:48:33 AM

Well I went to their terms and read regarding the ^{[Promotions and Bonuses]} it seems very risky condition, I think you must read it carefully and understand if you did not violate the rules, but as they have said there.
^{[ 9.5. Rocketpot may amend, reclaim, refuse or cancel any promotion at any time at its own discretion ]}
Let us hope that their team will answer this thread as ^[efialtis] said above, that is a great help to this issue and also may not ruin their reputation since their ANN thread ^[1] was inactive recently.
^{[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-rocketpotio-2500-games-10-cashback-5178376}

While gambling companies are free to stipulate anything under their TOS, that kind of stipulation, however, may be attended with too much discretionary powers to them. They must at least have some basis in order to cancel, amend, or refuse any promotion. Though it is under their discretionary powers, they must act within without any grave abuse to keep their playerbase strong.

I hope OP you continue to update us regarding this issue as this truly baffles my mind.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on July 09, 2022, 10:22:05 AM

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11.8. Rocketpot may carry out arbitrary verification procedures before sending out pay-outs. This verification may include asking for photo copies of a player's ID, passport, and requiring the customer to sign a message for an address that an early deposit was made from.

And this is absurd. What if i made a deposit from an exchange or from other casino and i can't sign with the address i use for the depo?

Some exchanges are 100% against gambling. For example, i have heard of coinbase closing your account if you acquire funds associated with gambling. It's probably dependent on your jurisdiction as to whether an exchange will close your account for gambling but it does happen so I would suggest no using an exchange to deposit to a gambling site period.

Rocketpot and any other site has terms that everyone should read, but most do not.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

Being able to take partial payment will also be a positive aspect for you. Because in the end you will be able to withdraw your winning money, although it may take a few weeks. Since the withdrawal limit is mentioned in their terms and conditions, so you have to follow their rules here. Now they may be wondering if they will increase their withdrawal limit in the future. Because after watching this incident, many big gamblers will probably avoid this casino.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

As withdrawals are limited to $10k/week so you should try it on Monday to make another withdrawal, I hope you have Rocketpot service privileges for full payout of your winnings, But I think Rocketpot's response suggests it doesn't support full payout decisions, but we will follow the official response from Rocketpot.

Even if he can withdraw another $10k on monday, he will have to wait until the next month for the next withdraw as we can see in their TOS on point 11.5.

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11.5. If you win $10,000 or more, we reserve the right to pay a maximum of up to $10,000 per week and $ 20,000 per month until the full amount is settled.

So, it will take almost 8 months to withdraw those 170k.

Some of the rules i didn't like at all are:

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11.2. You can only withdraw once you have wagered three (3) times the deposited amount.

This rollover requirement for the deposits are just too high. Is like finding an excuse to keep your money in their hands.

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11.8. Rocketpot may carry out arbitrary verification procedures before sending out pay-outs. This verification may include asking for photo copies of a player's ID, passport, and requiring the customer to sign a message for an address that an early deposit was made from.

And this is absurd. What if i made a deposit from an exchange or from other casino and i can't sign with the address i use for the depo?

I would recommend to stay away from this casino.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 09, 2022, 05:37:39 AM

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

There's nothing wrong with making the partial payment as long as the terms and conditions are followed. However, I agree that the weekly/monthly limit could be higher, as any serious ein will take months to withdraw. There's nothing more you can do but wait for them to pay the remaining balance.

Obviously it is their terms for the withdrawal and it is stated in their terms page. Nothing he can do except following the terms by requesting withdrawal based on the weekly/monthly limit unless the casino may have different/special policy to make a full payment at once. Rocketpot should increase their withdrawal limit, 10k per week is just too low in this gambling business imo. There are so many players out there who can bet more than this limit and win 10-100x of their initial bets. Imagine someone win $1 million, how long he need to wait to get it full if the withdrawal limit is that low. Other possible options is that Rocketpot should not accept big bets in their games.

Every whale or big bettors playing on Rocketpot should be aware of this, this is the first time I read about pay-out installment
and this is on one player only who won a huge amount because of limited withdrawal so a player will have a second thought and made them think if I won a huge amount I would have to share of payout from that $10k withdrawal.

I don't want to bet on it but there's a possibility that another big winner might come out in the future and this will cause trouble for OP, he'll have to share from that $10k withdrawal limit, you are right on this if they cannot increase their withdrawal limit, they should not accept big bets.

I think the 10k limit is per player, not a pool split between all who request withdrawals that week. I could be wrong but wouldn't make sense for anyone to play there if they had to share wd limits.

Per player that is

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

There's nothing wrong with making the partial payment as long as the terms and conditions are followed. However, I agree that the weekly/monthly limit could be higher, as any serious ein will take months to withdraw. There's nothing more you can do but wait for them to pay the remaining balance.

Obviously it is their terms for the withdrawal and it is stated in their terms page. Nothing he can do except following the terms by requesting withdrawal based on the weekly/monthly limit unless the casino may have different/special policy to make a full payment at once. Rocketpot should increase their withdrawal limit, 10k per week is just too low in this gambling business imo. There are so many players out there who can bet more than this limit and win 10-100x of their initial bets. Imagine someone win $1 million, how long he need to wait to get it full if the withdrawal limit is that low. Other possible options is that Rocketpot should not accept big bets in their games.

I think many of us are blinded by all those insane wins on Twitch and the likes - guys, million-dollar withdrawals are not the norm and the people you are watching on Twitch with their multi-million dollar wins... well, play money.

So let us not mix things up here. As stated before, even the biggest gambling operators in the world have withdrawal limits in place.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

There's nothing wrong with making the partial payment as long as the terms and conditions are followed. However, I agree that the weekly/monthly limit could be higher, as any serious ein will take months to withdraw. There's nothing more you can do but wait for them to pay the remaining balance.

Obviously it is their terms for the withdrawal and it is stated in their terms page. Nothing he can do except following the terms by requesting withdrawal based on the weekly/monthly limit unless the casino may have different/special policy to make a full payment at once. Rocketpot should increase their withdrawal limit, 10k per week is just too low in this gambling business imo. There are so many players out there who can bet more than this limit and win 10-100x of their initial bets. Imagine someone win $1 million, how long he need to wait to get it full if the withdrawal limit is that low. Other possible options is that Rocketpot should not accept big bets in their games.

Every whale or big bettors playing on Rocketpot should be aware of this, this is the first time I read about pay-out installment
and this is on one player only who won a huge amount because of limited withdrawal so a player will have a second thought and made them think if I won a huge amount I would have to share of payout from that $10k withdrawal.

I don't want to bet on it but there's a possibility that another big winner might come out in the future and this will cause trouble for OP, he'll have to share from that $10k withdrawal limit, you are right on this if they cannot increase their withdrawal limit, they should not accept big bets.

I think the 10k limit is per player, not a pool split between all who request withdrawals that week. I could be wrong but wouldn't make sense for anyone to play there if they had to share wd limits.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 09, 2022, 12:27:36 AM

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

There's nothing wrong with making the partial payment as long as the terms and conditions are followed. However, I agree that the weekly/monthly limit could be higher, as any serious ein will take months to withdraw. There's nothing more you can do but wait for them to pay the remaining balance.

Obviously it is their terms for the withdrawal and it is stated in their terms page. Nothing he can do except following the terms by requesting withdrawal based on the weekly/monthly limit unless the casino may have different/special policy to make a full payment at once. Rocketpot should increase their withdrawal limit, 10k per week is just too low in this gambling business imo. There are so many players out there who can bet more than this limit and win 10-100x of their initial bets. Imagine someone win $1 million, how long he need to wait to get it full if the withdrawal limit is that low. Other possible options is that Rocketpot should not accept big bets in their games.

Every whale or big bettors playing on Rocketpot should be aware of this, this is the first time I read about pay-out installment
and this is on one player only who won a huge amount because of limited withdrawal so a player will have a second thought and made them think if I won a huge amount I would have to share of payout from that $10k withdrawal.

I don't want to bet on it but there's a possibility that another big winner might come out in the future and this will cause trouble for OP, he'll have to share from that $10k withdrawal limit, you are right on this if they cannot increase their withdrawal limit, they should not accept big bets.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

There's nothing wrong with making the partial payment as long as the terms and conditions are followed. However, I agree that the weekly/monthly limit could be higher, as any serious ein will take months to withdraw. There's nothing more you can do but wait for them to pay the remaining balance.

Obviously it is their terms for the withdrawal and it is stated in their terms page. Nothing he can do except following the terms by requesting withdrawal based on the weekly/monthly limit unless the casino may have different/special policy to make a full payment at once. Rocketpot should increase their withdrawal limit, 10k per week is just too low in this gambling business imo. There are so many players out there who can bet more than this limit and win 10-100x of their initial bets. Imagine someone win $1 million, how long he need to wait to get it full if the withdrawal limit is that low. Other possible options is that Rocketpot should not accept big bets in their games.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

There's nothing wrong with making the partial payment as long as the terms and conditions are followed. However, I agree that the weekly/monthly limit could be higher, as any serious ein will take months to withdraw. There's nothing more you can do but wait for them to pay the remaining balance.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on July 08, 2022, 03:54:25 PM

In any case, it is positive that an amount has been paid out. I believe that the amount paid out could be a bit higher, but in the end the website does nothing wrong if it adheres to the terms and conditions. It can be very frustrating if you can only withdraw 10k per week or month, but as long as the site pays that is the most important thing. Let's not cheer too soon. The OP still owes a lot of money from the site. I really hope he gets everything paid out and that he doesn't gamble on his credit, because that would be a shame of course. Keep us posted and let's hope he gets 10k in his wallet every week from the site.

It's better than this than having none at all, or the casino fabricating lies just to deny payment to OP, I have seen casinos declining huge payout because they cannot make a huge payout, the arrangement on this issue is good enough, and OP needs to do is to hope that the casino is making profit and continue their operation so they can keep up paying him up the last cent because OP deserves his earning, if it happens on big casinos and the casino honor the winnings he should get it in one withdrawal.

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In any case, it is positive that an amount has been paid out. I believe that the amount paid out could be a bit higher, but in the end the website does nothing wrong if it adheres to the terms and conditions. It can be very frustrating if you can only withdraw 10k per week or month, but as long as the site pays that is the most important thing. Let's not cheer too soon. The OP still owes a lot of money from the site. I really hope he gets everything paid out and that he doesn't gamble on his credit, because that would be a shame of course. Keep us posted and let's hope he gets 10k in his wallet every week from the site.

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Quote from: Lilacthrow123 on July 08, 2022, 11:04:36 AM

Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

As withdrawals are limited to $10k/week so you should try it on Monday to make another withdrawal, I hope you have Rocketpot service privileges for full payout of your winnings, But I think Rocketpot's response suggests it doesn't support full payout decisions, but we will follow the official response from Rocketpot.

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Just wanted to update. Still no update on whether they will be honouring the full amount of winnings, was told to continue waiting for a final decision. Will be requesting another 10k withdrawal Monday as it’s the next withdrawal I can do within their limits and see if this continues.

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Quote from: efialtis on July 06, 2022, 05:47:23 AM

FWIW, their limits aren`t actually "poor" when compared with typical (even the big ones) fiat online casinos. Take LeoVegas for example, a huge online casino that also has a 20k monthly max withdrawal limit per account. Bet365, probably the best gambling site in the world, has some 50k ish monthly limit in place.

Fortunately, in the crypto space, there are some operators who easily pay out even such amounts quickly.

All of that does not change the fact that apparently, it is not cool when any operator tries to find a way to avoid paying, which happens way too often.

I would guess that the ones with 50k limit but do pay that limit vs the ones that have 100k+ limits but do not pay it, everyone would easily pick the one that pays. Plus, it is cool to have such limits so that people wouldn't lose too much, if they want to lose more than that, they need to go somewhere else and that is understandable, if they do not want to lose too much then they will have to end up with another place and go there, which is a good statement to be fair.

I have seen people play in places like Stake and win over a million dollars, so if you want to have nearly unlimited amount, that exists in crypto as well, but seems quite risky to wager that much if you ask me.

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