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legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
This feels like a good selling spot ~459 for a quickish trade.  I will buy back at ~421 or so within 72hrs.

Original position reclaimed at 423.  Profit waiting on sidelines for dip to 409.  Or will reinvest if we hold >465.


And profits back in at 410.  Cross fingers. Wink
hero member
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Bitshares are talking about trustees.  Haven't seen this idea since solidcoin.  I've almost sold my protoshares.

I publicly told bytemaster months ago that he is a closet socialist/collectivist (had so many indications from his design philosophies), not a true free market thinker. He quacks Austrian economics, but he waddles like a Communist.

I know this is not TA, but I want to bring to everyone's attention the innovations described here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22m063/blockchain_20_let_a_thousand_chains_blossom/

This removes one of the most important threats to Bitcoin, namely, dilution by alt-coins.

Hahaha, so we can't innovate mining. Perfect.

Have fun Adam. Sorry you are not going to be able to save Bitcoin, nor restrict crypto-coins to 21 million. Your goals are flawed.
hero member
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Shoot the messenger.  Tongue
full member
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Right, I don't think we've seen anything interesting so far on the altcoin scene. As someone put it, it's all a big experiment.
Today, they offer about no interest in comparison with Bitcoin. I am not concerned/interested about the past altcoin scene but rather more with the future.


I kinda hate Altcoins...  but Counterparty (XCP) is on the verge of a working trustless distributed exchange.

https://counterwallet.co/

Pretty interesting to me.

Yes, I like them as well. Quite innovative -> Issue Stocks, bonds and pay dividends. There is a distributed exchange as well.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
This feels like a good selling spot ~459 for a quickish trade.  I will buy back at ~421 or so within 72hrs.

God damn, risto is a dangerous jungle beast

However, despite all this bearish sentiment we are still going down. Why Huh


Sorry..  That was a misquote when I was deleting nested quotes.  Risto has NOT been suggesting selling.  In fact he chided me for being reckless in this case.  I got lucky though.
legendary
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This feels like a good selling spot ~459 for a quickish trade.  I will buy back at ~421 or so within 72hrs.

God damn, risto is a dangerous jungle beast

However, despite all this bearish sentiment we are still going down. Why Huh
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
Nice. Another refinement might be to take a vol trend line and scale log returns accordingly.
Scale how? And where can I find reliable and representative numbers for volume? In this market, I'm very skeptical to volume figures: I believe the exchanges reflect the general price quite well, but I don't believe the volume on the exchanges is representative for volume traded in total.

i mean volatility, sorry.  volatility is declining.  your log deltas are too big.   take a linear regressor for the volatility, scale the increments accordingly.  should be slightly better prediction.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
This feels like a good selling spot ~459 for a quickish trade.  I will buy back at ~421 or so within 72hrs.

Original position reclaimed at 423.  Profit waiting on sidelines for dip to 409.  Or will reinvest if we hold >465.
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 250
I suppose that when you say the historical distribution of log returns, you mean without regard to phase of the bubble cycle. Right?
Correct.

If that is what you did, then perhaps by analyzing each of the previous bubbles you could obtain 10 deciles by partitioning each bubble. Then you could run ten times your existing simulation on each of the 10 decile's distribution.

My own projection of future bitcoin price possibilities heavily depends upon guessing where we are in the bubble cycle. Because I think we are near a bottom, I expect much higher prices this summer as a result.

I can think of a complication or two fitting the deciles, so if that is something that you have no interest in doing, then I have the data to perform a stochastic monte carlo simulation myself.
Not entirely sure what you mean, but in my current (mis-)interpretation of it, I'm not sure it would be a very useful exercise, since I don't consider bubbles to be so predictable and/or uniform. I would be more inclined to consider that a Monte Carlo simulation based on historical data takes on an appropriate amount of bubblyness, which, when averaged out over 50k simulated price paths, are generally smoothed out. If you look at a single generated price path, you clearly see bubbles etc. with characteristics similar to what we have seen historically -- but if you generate 50k paths and summarize them, then the bubbles disappear and the general trend remains. That was kind of the point, and I sidestep any personal opinions on where we are in "the bubble".

Nice. Another refinement might be to take a vol trend line and scale log returns accordingly.
Scale how? And where can I find reliable and representative numbers for volume? In this market, I'm very skeptical to volume figures: I believe the exchanges reflect the general price quite well, but I don't believe the volume on the exchanges is representative for volume traded in total.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Right, I don't think we've seen anything interesting so far on the altcoin scene. As someone put it, it's all a big experiment.
Today, they offer about no interest in comparison with Bitcoin. I am not concerned/interested about the past altcoin scene but rather more with the future.


I kinda hate Altcoins...  but Counterparty (XCP) is on the verge of a working trustless distributed exchange.

https://counterwallet.co/

Pretty interesting to me.

Bit shares is doing it better, I would look into bitshares

The only alts I own are Protoshares, Litecoin, XCP and DOGE.

Bitshares are talking about trustees.  Haven't seen this idea since solidcoin.  I've almost sold my protoshares.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
Nice. Another refinement might be to take a vol trend line and scale log returns accordingly.
hero member
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Stephen Reed
The charts were made by simulating 50k paths on the log returns based on the historical distribution of log returns. The shaded areas represent percentiles (dark blue for 25-75 and light blue for 10-90), the lines represent the mean and the median.

Very interesting.

I suppose that when you say the historical distribution of log returns, you mean without regard to phase of the bubble cycle. Right?

If that is what you did, then perhaps by analyzing each of the previous bubbles you could obtain 10 deciles by partitioning each bubble. Then you could run ten times your existing simulation on each of the 10 decile's distribution.

My own projection of future bitcoin price possibilities heavily depends upon guessing where we are in the bubble cycle. Because I think we are near a bottom, I expect much higher prices this summer as a result.

I can think of a complication or two fitting the deciles, so if that is something that you have no interest in doing, then I have the data to perform a stochastic monte carlo simulation myself.
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 250
Sorry for interrupting the off-topic discussion. No offence, but the TA in this thread ain't what it used to be.

Here's some price forecasts for the next 90/180/365 days you might find interesting:




The charts were made by simulating 50k paths on the log returns based on the historical distribution of log returns. The shaded areas represent percentiles (dark blue for 25-75 and light blue for 10-90), the lines represent the mean and the median.

Notable features:
  • Only 10% chance of hitting $1200/previous ATH before June 2014
  • 50% chance of hitting $1200 by October 2014
  • The probability distribution is massively skewed to the upside: e.g. 10% chance of being lower than current price (~$440) in December 2014 and 10% chance of being higher than $8000
  • The uncertainty is huge, i.e. the shaded areas are large

How is that for a forecast, eh?
full member
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PrimeDAO - An Adoption Engine for Open Finance

Right, I don't think we've seen anything interesting so far on the altcoin scene. As someone put it, it's all a big experiment.
Today, they offer about no interest in comparison with Bitcoin. I am not concerned/interested about the past altcoin scene but rather more with the future.


I kinda hate Altcoins...  but Counterparty (XCP) is on the verge of a working trustless distributed exchange.

https://counterwallet.co/

Pretty interesting to me.

Bit shares is doing it better, I would look into bitshares
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Right, I don't think we've seen anything interesting so far on the altcoin scene. As someone put it, it's all a big experiment.
Today, they offer about no interest in comparison with Bitcoin. I am not concerned/interested about the past altcoin scene but rather more with the future.


I kinda hate Altcoins...  but Counterparty (XCP) is on the verge of a working trustless distributed exchange.

https://counterwallet.co/

Pretty interesting to me.
pa
hero member
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Merit: 501
I know this is not TA, but I want to bring to everyone's attention the innovations described here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22m063/blockchain_20_let_a_thousand_chains_blossom/

This removes one of the most important threats to Bitcoin, namely, dilution by alt-coins.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Hello !

I'm browsing all your posts and I saw this gem of yours:


Perhaps it is helpful if I share that it took me about 5 years of almost full-time study to de-educate myself from the predominant mindset to something I consider a clean mind. I am only now able to start learning anything. I still get irritated by the undescribable evils that the depopulationists force on us in name of "welfare" and whatnot, and the feeble response of the governed, who do not understand anything, like you said.

-----

It really made me think about what I am going through. I had a very complicated childhood and right now I'm slowly fighting off my 2nd depression. I've been meds free for 1 year. Running and lifting weights for 6 months now. As my body is less and less an obstacle to day to day stuff, I feel more and more obligated to take care of my mind. Reading and learning math are helping me a lot. But I am still far from the person I wanna be.

Would you mind sharing a bit more about what you've studied and how you de educated yourself and why you decided to do it. How come you say, just now you are able to learn anything ? Feel free to make a very big post about that issue ! Cheesy

This site is very helpful for info.  I look through many posts per hour.  Check the internet as well....coindesk, charts etc.

However, as always invest only what you can afford to loose.
hero member
Activity: 518
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Hello !

I'm browsing all your posts and I saw this gem of yours:


Perhaps it is helpful if I share that it took me about 5 years of almost full-time study to de-educate myself from the predominant mindset to something I consider a clean mind. I am only now able to start learning anything. I still get irritated by the undescribable evils that the depopulationists force on us in name of "welfare" and whatnot, and the feeble response of the governed, who do not understand anything, like you said.

-----

It really made me think about what I am going through. I had a very complicated childhood and right now I'm slowly fighting off my 2nd depression. I've been meds free for 1 year. Running and lifting weights for 6 months now. As my body is less and less an obstacle to day to day stuff, I feel more and more obligated to take care of my mind. Reading and learning math are helping me a lot. But I am still far from the person I wanna be.

Would you mind sharing a bit more about what you've studied and how you de educated yourself and why you decided to do it. How come you say, just now you are able to learn anything ? Feel free to make a very big post about that issue ! Cheesy

This site is very helpful for info.  I look through many posts per hour.  Check the internet as well....coindesk, charts etc.
hero member
Activity: 723
Merit: 503
Hello !

I'm browsing all your posts and I saw this gem of yours:


Perhaps it is helpful if I share that it took me about 5 years of almost full-time study to de-educate myself from the predominant mindset to something I consider a clean mind. I am only now able to start learning anything. I still get irritated by the undescribable evils that the depopulationists force on us in name of "welfare" and whatnot, and the feeble response of the governed, who do not understand anything, like you said.

-----

It really made me think about what I am going through. I had a very complicated childhood and right now I'm slowly fighting off my 2nd depression. I've been meds free for 1 year. Running and lifting weights for 6 months now. As my body is less and less an obstacle to day to day stuff, I feel more and more obligated to take care of my mind. Reading and learning math are helping me a lot. But I am still far from the person I wanna be.

Would you mind sharing a bit more about what you've studied and how you de educated yourself and why you decided to do it. How come you say, just now you are able to learn anything ? Feel free to make a very big post about that issue ! Cheesy
hero member
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Stephen Reed
Risto, and others offering an opinion:

I am confident that I can execute a spread of sell orders near the next bubble peak. My tactic is to judge the duration of the price doubling time, and if in my estimation the price is on track to double within the next week then that is a good time to sell. We may get a sort of double peak as in November 2013, and I would sell early accordingly. The buy back, again a spread, would take place some months later, or if there is a 50% retracement from my average sell order. Comments on this tactic would be welcome.

Mainly I am interested in (1) what percentage of my holdings should be traded? (2) I do not trust Coinbase to execute the sale in a timely manner, so I am opening an account at Bitstamp - which I have plenty of time to completely verify. Would it be good practice to leave fiat at Bitstamp between the sell and buy-back? Otherwise I would open a new temporary US banking account to receive the large international wire transfer from Bitstamp. I am afraid that my bank would close my existing personal account upon receiving such a transfer.

I am asking this forum for tactical advice because I do not trust myself in the mania phase of the bubble, and would risk too much. I can afford to lose everything, yet at $5000 or more per bitcoin expected at the next bubble peak - everything in my case would be a large sum.

- The final ascent is indeed 100%/week as you can determine from the previous bubbles.
- I sold early in Nov-13 because I judged the final ascent from China prices that had diverged then
- Buyback better judged from exponential trendline. My personal calculation from Dec-13 was that I would be able to buy at 410 before the end of Mar-14. I panic bought a portion way too early. Forum pressure was immense.
- I think 1/3 is the prudent trading amount, perhaps 40% if you include SSS permanently sold coins
- Bitstamp has worked well for me because they know me from the forum and I am open to all KYC, essentially a public person
- They also sent 7-figure amount and my bank did not close the acct, only asked AML
- Keeping fiat/BTC in any exchange for 3 months is risky, I would repatriate some instantly and then wire back when needed, but this depends on many things.


Thanks for an informative and entirely satisfying response.

I will examine the fiat withdrawal limits at Bitstamp.
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