Topic: Russian Gas ban - A problem for Europe or suicide for Russia? - page 9. (Read 14450 times)

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If it were possible to replace fossil fuel with anything else, they would have done it already and not to mention that they would have left oil rich regions of the world alone! Otherwise why are they still sticking on to for example the oil fields they steal from in places like Syria despite being attacked constantly and sustaining casualties every single week?
It's pretty simple, the tiny amount of oil they steal is what they desperately need since it is irreplaceable. Otherwise there is no other justification for the body bags they send home every time.

Sources, sources, my retarded friend, sources. The only source I see is this one:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/russia-is-pumping-less-natural-gas-to-europe-as-nord-stream-2-nears-completion.html

If we read further, we'll find this: "It comes shortly after German Chancellor Angela Merkel sought to ease long-running concerns about the nearly completed Nord Stream 2 pipeline, saying further sanctions may be imposed if Moscow used gas “as a weapon.”"

So, in fact, as always, it's reaction not action. Russia merely reacts to hostile steps made by the EU. I know it's hard for someone with a vegetable IQ to tell the difference between action and reaction, but you could've at least tried.

And please provide the remaining sources or should we consider them SOMA (straight outta my ass)?

P.S. Reality check: How is the defence of Bakhmut going? 

You know, in today's world it's hard to lie about historical events. Such as what you are talking about. Before the sanctions were imposed, Russia had, on several occasions, demonstrably cut off/reduced gas supplies to the EU, demonstrating its "power", but in fact terrorizing EU governments to force them to comply with the Kremlin regime's conditions. This was happening before the sanctions, before the first package. Just google it and see how silly you look now with such statements
This also applies to the "claim" that the reason for the terrorist attack on Ukraine was Ukraine's official desire to join NATO, thereby "creating new threats to Russia." The first official document, by the Ukrainian government, regarding the POTENTIAL desire to switch to NATO standards and eventually join NATO appeared... in 2018, 4 years after the terrorist country invaded Ukraine.



July 2016. - Gazprom's reduction of gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS
June 2019. - Russia refuses to extend EU gas supply contract, pending the results of Ukraine's presidential election (!!!)
August 2021 - deliberate reduction of gas pumping to the EU https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/russia-is-pumping-less-natural-gas-to-europe-as-nord-stream-2-nears-completion.html
January 2022 - triple reduction of gas supply through Ukraine, without any real reason.
Sep. September 2, 2022 - The Russian gas company Gazprom announced a complete stop of gas transmission through the Nord Stream pipeline

oil and gas is Russia's combat power in my opinion, he uses it to attack western countries because of the gas Russia sends supplies there if it is cut off then western countries have to increase gas prices and that makes Russia strong in the eyes of the west even though Russia lacks military equipment and they don't as sophisticated as America. but they can threaten through the gas and oil industry, but this is not completely destroying the western country itself I'm sure this is not final, whatever it is I think peace is the best way.

Perhaps you forgot that it was the US and EU who introduced sanctions first. So it's not Russia "begun the gas blackmail of Europe" but completely the opposite. I'll also have to remind you how natural gas market works (and any other market btw): the prices grow when there's demand (before the cold season obviously as gas is mostly used for heating) and atm the cold season is over so logically we're at the lowest point now. The countries buying natural gas still have some gas left in their systems so there's no need to buy more (well, until the next season starts). Therefore, the prices are also at the lowest point atm.

As to the solar energy, yes it's nice that this tech is developing and improving and becoming more wide-spread but there's one downside: there's energy overproduction in summer and electricity prices are low (sometimes even as low as 0) but there's no real way to store and conserve this energy. And it winter, when there's very few sunlight in most of the Europe (Central/Northern Europe of course) solar systems are inefficient and guess what: we need to buy energy again! So 70+% seems very optimistic to me.

What do you mean by cheap oil? Before Biden came to power, crude oil was trading at $40 per barrel. After he took over presidency, as a result of his stupid policies the price went up to almost $100 per barrel. India is not a large-scale producer of crude oil. We import 85% of what we consume. Do you expect us to pay 2.5x prices? As per the latest stats from the Indian finance ministry, the EXW price for Russian crude is around $70 per barrel (which is almost twice the price we were paying in 2020). FOB price is around $55 per barrel, but then another $15 is added in the form of freight and insurance. There is no cheap oil available from anywhere (including Russia).

Dear Sithara007!
Well, what are you offended by? Why, as facts that do not correspond to your dreams - so immediately "anti-Indian propaganda"?

Yes, I agree, after India was promised bad consequences for the resale of Russian oil - yes, the volumes decreased. This is around April 2023. And yes, it is no longer 60%+, as it was before! I'm honest !

But what about the fact that the whole world is fighting terrorists' accomplices, forbids buying oil from them, and India is buying oil at a cheap price - is this anti-Indian propaganda?
Or are the EU statements that India changed tactics after the threat of sanctions and switched to a new scheme - through the processing of Russian oil into a finished product and selling it to the EU - is this also a lie and anti-Indian propaganda?
Let's prove it! Propaganda is "the dissemination of views, facts, arguments, rumors, information or CLEARLY FALSE information in order to form the necessary public opinion and manipulate public consciousness."
In your opinion, the FACTS and multiple speeches by politicians from the EU, revealing the FACTS of India's manipulation of oil from Russia, is this propaganda? No, it's just true!
I agree - not pleasant. But denial of the truth and facts - reality does not change
I am sure you understand perfectly well that the status of a "terrorist partner" for India in the future may manifest itself as noticeable problems, and therefore you are trying at least at this level to bring your beloved country out of the sweat spot of the "terrorist's assistant" ... I respect India for its history, culture , beautiful nature and amazing cities. But politicians... these are often dirty people, and they can, because of their greed, "set up" the whole country and the people of the country like this. It happens...

Math is really not your thing, isn't it?

0.3% is the enormous cost?
What about the 2.5%, 8 times bigger for Russia? That doesn't count right?

Also, not a word that gas is no cheaper than before!!! the invasion of Crimea?
So cheaper than all this shit began in 2014? Nothing? Not a word? No statistics? No price per 1000 cubic meters?
What happened? 

You have kept us updated with the price in this topic 41 times!!!!!, not one update since US LNG is now cheaper than Russian gas before the annexation!

Not a word on the x1000 profits Gazprom was making? Nothing? 

^^^ It is really stupid to assume that solar energy will be able to replace fossil fuels. The cost of production remains much more than the electricity that is sourced from gas, nuclear and coal fired powerplants. Also, right now it is the summer season and gas prices are usually low at this time. Winter prices maybe more unpredictable. Although it is true that countries such as Germany have reduced the consumption of natural gas, it came at an enormous cost to the economy. For those idiots who still live in the dreamland, I dedicate this news article:

https://english.jagran.com/business/germany-europes-largest-economy-goes-into-recession-will-it-impact-india-explained-10080391

Having begun the gas blackmail of Europe before Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the Kremlin miscalculated the prediction of further events and is now suffering enormous losses.
Thus, as of May 25, 2023, for the first time in two years, gas prices in Europe have collapsed to a psychological minimum. In Europe, exchange prices for gas fell below $300 per 1,000 cubic meters. m.
"Gas prices are down more than 65% this year and there is little indication that the decline will end any time soon... Stocks are filling up fast and are likely to be fully filled earlier than usual," writes Bloomberg.

It is noted that the market, in particular, has seen significant energy production in Germany through the use of solar pagels, reaching an unprecedented level.
  The agency predicts that by 2030, wind and solar energy will impact 76% of total production.

In such a situation, Europe will definitely not need Russian gas, but we'll see what Russia will do with its gas.

Sources:
https://www.unian.net/economics/energetics/ceny-na-gaz-v-evrope-upali-do-minimuma-za-dva-goda-12275388.html

https://korrespondent.net/business/economics/4593818-solnechnaia-enerhyia-davyt-na-tsenu-haza-v-evrope-Bloomberg

^^^ Again more anti-Indian propaganda from the Ukrainians. I have clarified this infinite number of times. India imports only 36% of the crude oil requirement from Russia. The remaining 64% is sourced from elsewhere. We have long-term "take or pay" agreements with OPEC nations such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, and therefore majority of the oil will be sources from the OPEC no matter what. The refined products such as diesel and fuel oil that is being exported to the European Union is sourced from OPEC oil and not from the Russian oil. Josep Borrell has lost his mind and he should get himself admitted to mental asylum.

And now coming to Gatik Ship Management, although on paper this company is registered in India, it is being run by Russian citizens who are based in the United Arab Emirates. Apart from the address of an office building, there is no connection between India and Gatik Ship Management.

A little about "suicides" and other realities of the market.

1. Very important news this week. India was caught in an alternative way of helping the country to a terrorist, by not directly reselling oil by mixing. Now, most of the oil bought from the country of the terrorist is processed at Indian refineries and resold to the EU. But the crimes do not go unnoticed, and the reaction followed:

"The EU should take steps to sell India's refined Russian oil to Europe," EU chief diplomat Josep Borrell said, according to the FT.
Brussels is aware that Indian refiners are buying large volumes of Russian crude oil before processing it into fuel for sale to Europe, Borrell said. He stressed for the first time that the EU must act to stop this.
"If diesel or gasoline enters Europe from India and is produced from Russian oil, this is certainly a circumvention of the sanctions and Member States should take action," Borrell said.

2. And the second significant news about India and its assistance to the country to a terrorist in an attempt to circumvent sanctions:
"The largest owner of the shadow fleet of Russia was cut out from the world oil transportation market.
Western countries continue to increase pressure on the "shadow fleet" of dozens of tankers that carry Russian oil to Asia, bypassing sanctions and price ceilings.
Registered in India, Gatik Ship Management, which became a major carrier of barrels from Russia at the end of last year, has been stripped of its tanker certification in the British Lloyd’s Register, Reuters reports.

PS It seems that soon in India gasoline will rise even higher ....

You seem to be forgetting one simple and indisputable thing. It is the Russians who came to the Ukrainian land, rob, kill and rape civilians, destroy their homes. For the pro-Ukrainian position, the occupiers shoot and hang civilians, as happened recently in the Svatovsky district of the Luhansk region, which they temporarily seized. You are now arguing about whether the surviving houses remained in Mariupol and Bakhmut. Is it so important against the background of significant destruction of these cities during their capture by the Russians? At least it's very cynical. Time will put these events and their consequences in their place, and the world will still see the results of the Russian invasion of Mariupol and Bakhmut after these cities are liberated from the Russian horde.

Why don't you stop making up facts and stupid excuses. Bakhmut is not completely destroyed, it can also be seen in the latest videos from the city (filmed by Ukrainian drones btw). The same had been claimed by the UA authorities regarding Mariupol. They kept saying that Mariupol is completely destroyed which was far from being true. "The Ukrainian authorities at that time declared that the battles for Bakhmut were continuing". They made the same claims regarding Mariupol long after it had fallen. This is simply laughable.

20-25k civilians were killed, but were they all killed exclusively by the Russians? I don't think so. There were numerous reports of UA troops hiding in residential buildings, placing MLRS units between houses, near schools etc. If you're trying to say that every civilian in Mariupol had been killed solely and exclusively by the Russians, well...

So, you mentioned yourself that "50% of the city no longer exists" which means Mariupol has not been completely destroyed? It seems that you forgot what was it you lied about last time  Just to remind you UA authorities claimed that Mariupol had been wiped off the face of the earth completely. Btw, would be nice to see the link to the source where you got this info. Just like your compatriot drbeer you fail to provide valid sources frequently. Some buildings can't be rebuilt and should be demolished that's normal if the damage had been substantial.

I am not a supporter of the Russian world, so the truth is important to me, no matter what the wave is, I will not invent fairy tales.
The reality is that most of the city of Bakhmut, today, has really been captured and completely destroyed by the terrorist troops of the Russian Federation, detachments of criminals and other "best representatives" of the Russian world.
But it is difficult to attribute this to victory, to put it mildly:
- 10 months, the "second army of the world" tried to take a small settlement
- According to preliminary data, today only in "meat assaults", Russia has lost up to 100,000 various terrorists (regular army, mercenaries, criminals, "the color of the Russian nation")
- The depletion of ammunition and the wear and tear of equipment has reached the point where it has become a mass process of breaking artillery barrels and tanks

But the most interesting and surprising, everyone will watch in June / early July. And this will be a consequence of this "great victory of the second army of the world", when instead of strategic and well-thought-out goals, they simply bang their heads against the wall to satisfy the complexes of idiots in power of the terrorist country

It makes no sense to argue about whether the Armed Forces of Ukraine now control some part of Bakhmut on the southwestern outskirts of the city. All the same, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not retreat from it and are located on the hills on the southern and northern sides of the city and continue to provide fire control with the help of artillery on any movement in Bakhmut itself. The fighting continues and now the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is actively preventing the Wagnerites from rotating their forces in the city itself to replace them with a regular Russian army. For more than nine months, the Russians have been storming Bakhmut every day, making about a hundred attacks a day, and what has this "second army of the world" achieved? He boasts of capturing the ruins of a small town in the Donbass, which has no special significance either in military or in any other sense.

As per the maps published by Rybar, Russian forces control 100% of the official city limits of Bakhmut. Prigozhin was very specific when he said that they had to capture the last few meters of Bakhmut, to make sure that Ukrainians don't claim to be inside the city. Only a few dachas on the outskirts of the city are under Ukrainian control. Prigozhin further claimed that Wagner lost 17,000 soldiers in the battle for Bakhmut (10,000 prisoners and 7,000 professionals). And he also claimed that Ukrainian side suffered some 50,000 deaths.

If you carefully read the text to which you refer with the quoted words of Zelensky that Bakhmut is only in our hearts, then the following is indicated there:
“For today, Bakhmut is only in our hearts,” he said. “There is nothing in this place.”
The Russian ministry statement on the Telegram channel came about eight hours after a similar claim by Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin. Ukrainian authorities at that time said fighting for Bakhmut was continuing."

That is, after these words, the President of Ukraine Zelensky added: "There is nothing in this place." This indicates that Zelensky, saying that Bakhmut is only in our hearts, meant that he was actually completely destroyed, and not captured by Russian troops. This conclusion is confirmed by the fact that further, behind these words, it is written: "The Ukrainian authorities at that time declared that the battles for Bakhmut were continuing." The fact that the battles for Bakhmut continue can now be heard and seen in various news channels, and I see no reason to give confirmation of this. We will hear and see about this for a long time until he is finally liberated from the Russian invaders.

Your statement that Mariupol is now almost completely rebuilt is also not true.
Mariupol was surrounded by Russian troops during the early days of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, which began on February 24, 2022. Since the beginning of March, it has been under blockade, since the second half of May, the city has been in complete occupation.
About 130,000 people remained in Mariupol at the beginning of August. Before the full-scale invasion, 530 thousand people lived in the city. According to various estimates, between 20,000 and 25,000 civilians died during his "liberation" by the Russians; there is no exact data.

The Russians damaged by shelling 1800 high-rise buildings in Mariupol. The occupiers have identified 934 buildings that are gradually being demolished, 400 houses have already been completely destroyed, 50% of the city no longer exists. In order to hide from the world community the fact of the destruction of this city, the invaders continue to destroy Mariupol by thoughtless demolition of houses, leaving Mariupol residents without housing and things.
Nearly the only miraculously surviving house, which was built before the full-scale invasion as SBU official housing, the occupiers are now passing off as built by them. A few other houses are just being repainted without any major repairs. That's all the publicized restoration of the city of Mariupol.

I am particularly concerned about people with mental disabilities, which means that they are victims of propaganda, and therefore I will help you to return to a normal life a little!

Most likely, you have watched this video:
https://www.tatar-inform.ru/video/uploads/f500788632b9df252e896898481f4d12.mp4

Everything is definitely scary, creepy, "nuclear ash", "depleted uranium", and other wet dreams
But there are 2 nuances.
1. I have already written to one "sufferer" about what explosives with depleted uranium were delivered and transferred to the forward units of the Armed Forces. With the indication of the model. And ask him to try to explain how it detonated SO. We are waiting for an answer, I have not received and will not

2. And now let's check the eyesight and the adequacy of information perception of some characters!
- Khmelnytskyi. Yes, actually a couple of Shahed drones (supplied by the "fraternal, Russian, terrorist country" of Iran, with a warhead of 30 to 40 kg) flew to the area of the railway station.
- The railway station was working at the moment, and even the next day after the terrorist attack
- You saw the scale of the explosion according to the "cartoon".

and here questions arise for a normal person (no, no, it’s not about you yet):
1. How did 2-3 Shaheda, with a warhead of 3x40 kg, create such an explosion?
2. Artillery charges from depleted uranium do not detonate. And this becomes clear to any adequate person who looks at their construction.
3. And... doesn't squint bother you? By chance? Or selectively?
To explain the last question, a couple of facts:
3.1. Open the map of Khmelnytskyi. With heights and relief. Learn. Even a "street survey" to understand the topography of the city.
3.2. And this is, as it were, a shot of an "explosion". Are you not embarrassed that Mr. Khmelnytskyi, according to your imagination, is built at an angle of approximately 20 degrees, despite the fact that it is actually low and quite "flat" in relief? ))))

I specially drew lines - the lines of the direction of the explosion and the horizon. Nothing bothers you?



Russian propagandists work "from the heart", but as always, very poorly, and habitually steal money allocated for propaganda videos

PS And next - look, for example, about the explosion of a warehouse with ordinary saltpetre (not "nuclear charges, worth 500 million dollars"), and what kind of destruction was in the city. At a smaller size, the "mushroom" is an explosion. At the global destruction of the city! Although the explosion occurred in the water area of the port, and not in the CENTER OF THE CITY, as with the arrival of the Shahedov couple in Khmelnytskyi, where the railway station is in the center of the city!...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lat-An3kQsM
https://youtu.be/hvqTu381iGY

Well, as expected - I will return to the thread of the topic, after exposing another cheap and primitive fake

And so about Russia's new economic "victories"
- The EU will transfer more than 700 million euros of profits from Russia's frozen assets to Ukraine
- May 25 (Reuters) - European stocks steadied on Thursday after their biggest two-day decline since March, as strong corporate reports offset concerns about the standoff over the U.S. debt ceiling
- In Russia, there was a shortage of high-class managers after the start of the war in Ukraine and the mass departure of Russians abroad.
Companies involved in oil production, metals, chemical production and agribusiness lack top managers
- MOSCOW, May 25 (Reuters) - Gas production in the Russian Federation in January-April decreased by 10.15% in annual terms to 235 billion cubic meters. In April, gas production decreased by 10.3% compared to the same period last year.

it will be a big problem for Europe not so much for the USA, but then I do not understand all this fury and all the sanctions on Russia, in the end they only harmed Europe.