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Seems CIA already briefed some journalists about Zelensky with some juicy info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeBb6hPUC8


American soldier defected from Ukraine to Russia

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6gCtjRwdu895/
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As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?
For example, in order not to sabotage the grain deal. Do you have any idea what it's all about? How could Ukraine sell its grain under this deal if Russia would supply it for free?

Let's go again, Russia is ready to supply free wheat to countries in need if the grain deal is not extended. In other words, the starving countries of Africa will receive for free from Russia all the volume of wheat that fell from the closing of the grain deal. How many tankers Ukraine sent to Africa as part of the grain deal, Russia will send as many tankers free of charge after the cancellation of the deal. Is it clear now?

Without grain from Ukraine, there isn't enough grain to feed the world.  When there's a grain shortage, it will always be the poorest countries that are impacted the hardest.  It's a global market, it's really that simple.

They don't have enough grain to begin with, but even if they did, It would be foolish and naive to think Russia is just going to give Africa as much Wheat (one of the few Russian exports that aren't sanctioned) as they need while the price of Wheat is surging and the Ruble is plummeting.


Remember that after testing the Ukraine grain, several Nato countries wouldn't accept it because it was toxic. Hey, 'Ukraine grain'. That's got a bit of a ring to it.

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As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?
For example, in order not to sabotage the grain deal. Do you have any idea what it's all about? How could Ukraine sell its grain under this deal if Russia would supply it for free?

Let's go again, Russia is ready to supply free wheat to countries in need if the grain deal is not extended. In other words, the starving countries of Africa will receive for free from Russia all the volume of wheat that fell from the closing of the grain deal. How many tankers Ukraine sent to Africa as part of the grain deal, Russia will send as many tankers free of charge after the cancellation of the deal. Is it clear now?

Without grain from Ukraine, there isn't enough grain to feed the world.  When there's a grain shortage, it will always be the poorest countries that are impacted the hardest.  It's a global market, it's really that simple.

They don't have enough grain to begin with, but even if they did, It would be foolish and naive to think Russia is just going to give Africa as much Wheat (one of the few Russian exports that aren't sanctioned) as they need while the price of Wheat is surging and the Ruble is plummeting.
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So now hunger in Africa is created by "your ways", Africans have nothing to do with it? The fact that many countries in Africa wage war after war and those who do not are under kleptocratic rules is all due to "your ways".

Look, it is time that African countries take responsibility for their own destiny and their situations. If you cannot feed a family of three, why do you keep going until they are seven and then have to live on subsidies from "the evil capitalists". Why people cannot look beyond the "tribes" and try to build countries where they can progress instead of killing each other?

But anyway, if Russia blocks the grain deal and no matter who you choose to blame (Russia cannot do wrong for you, I know, it is all somebody else's fault) the end result will be a famine, mostly in Africa, but not only in Africa. Again, a great diplomatic win.

Through neocolonialism, former colonial powers created situation where they continue to occupy Africa through economic means (read John Perkins
book "Economic hitman")...IMF, USAID, weaponized dollar are all neocolonial instruments.
Few countries managed to claw away from such situation, just for their leaders get killed by west, either directly or through
sponsored coups

Examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sankara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_Um_Nyob%C3%A8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba

Gaddafi? Seriously? Is that like your role model for pacifying and creating progress in Africa? Are you also somehow suggesting that Russia is not colonising where ever they can?

I guess you are too eager to prove your point and do not consider that Russia is a fantastic supporter of dubious characters -simply because they currently do not have any other ideology than raw money. You accuse "you", whoever that is, of colonising, when the former USSR has been keeping half of Europe captive and Putin is now trying the same.

I fail to see any moral superiority whatsoever here.
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As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?
For example, in order not to sabotage the grain deal. Do you have any idea what it's all about? How could Ukraine sell its grain under this deal if Russia would supply it for free?

Let's go again, Russia is ready to supply free wheat to countries in need if the grain deal is not extended. In other words, the starving countries of Africa will receive for free from Russia all the volume of wheat that fell from the closing of the grain deal. How many tankers Ukraine sent to Africa as part of the grain deal, Russia will send as many tankers free of charge after the cancellation of the deal. Is it clear now?
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So now hunger in Africa is created by "your ways", Africans have nothing to do with it? The fact that many countries in Africa wage war after war and those who do not are under kleptocratic rules is all due to "your ways".

Look, it is time that African countries take responsibility for their own destiny and their situations. If you cannot feed a family of three, why do you keep going until they are seven and then have to live on subsidies from "the evil capitalists". Why people cannot look beyond the "tribes" and try to build countries where they can progress instead of killing each other?

But anyway, if Russia blocks the grain deal and no matter who you choose to blame (Russia cannot do wrong for you, I know, it is all somebody else's fault) the end result will be a famine, mostly in Africa, but not only in Africa. Again, a great diplomatic win.

Through neocolonialism, former colonial powers created situation where they continue to occupy Africa through economic means (read John Perkins
book "Economic hitman")...IMF, USAID, weaponized dollar are all neocolonial instruments.
Few countries managed to claw away from such situation, just for their leaders get killed by west, either directly or through
sponsored coups

Examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sankara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_Um_Nyob%C3%A8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba
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I simply have problem with you taking most profit from situation you created, where you did not produce wheat, but your colonial ways produced
hunger in Africa

I don't know who's "you" but the former colonialists seem to be trying to get that grain going while Putin, the friend of random African dictatorships, keeps holding said grain hostage with these ridiculous negotiations and threats to not allow it to be exported. It shouldn't be subject to negotiations to begin with. It's only a problem because Putin created it, what with the invasion and the deluded imperialist "I own the Black Sea" nonsense.
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Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

You're like a small child who gets a dollar for ice cream and a dollar for candy and comes home crying without ice cream or candy. "Why didn't you buy it?". "I forgot which dollar is which". It doesn't matter which grain goes to Africa and which dollars pay for it, as long as the supply is sufficient to keep the price affordable. Real world works differently than Stalin's (or Tito's) five year plan, try to keep up.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?

I simply have problem with you taking most profit from situation you created, where you did not produce wheat, but your colonial ways produced
hunger in Africa

So now hunger in Africa is created by "your ways", Africans have nothing to do with it? The fact that many countries in Africa wage war after war and those who do not are under kleptocratic rules is all due to "your ways".

Look, it is time that African countries take responsibility for their own destiny and their situations. If you cannot feed a family of three, why do you keep going until they are seven and then have to live on subsidies from "the evil capitalists". Why people cannot look beyond the "tribes" and try to build countries where they can progress instead of killing each other?

But anyway, if Russia blocks the grain deal and no matter who you choose to blame (Russia cannot do wrong for you, I know, it is all somebody else's fault) the end result will be a famine, mostly in Africa, but not only in Africa. Again, a great diplomatic win.
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Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

You're like a small child who gets a dollar for ice cream and a dollar for candy and comes home crying without ice cream or candy. "Why didn't you buy it?". "I forgot which dollar is which". It doesn't matter which grain goes to Africa and which dollars pay for it, as long as the supply is sufficient to keep the price affordable. Real world works differently than Stalin's (or Tito's) five year plan, try to keep up.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?

I simply have problem with you taking most profit from situation you created, where you did not produce wheat, but your colonial ways produced
hunger in Africa
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Meanwhile Turkey agreed to support Sweden bid to join NATO and now Baltic sea basically becomes lake of NATO. First Turkey released Azov commanders, now supported Sweden bid to join NATO. From neutral country now they're turning into unfriendly country for Russia.

https://t.me/vert_i_call/12669

However, many NATO countries have ratified it, such as Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc. - and from their point of view, this is a war crime.
If these countries who ratified convention would supply cluster bombs to Ukraine, that would be war crime. Now they can be against, they can condemn this decision, but it doesn't really matters.

In general, this is a good sign for Russia and for the whole world. There are many signals that there are very active behind-the-scenes negotiations between various participants, one way or another involved in the conflict. I think that with a probability of about 80%, this topic will lose its relevance towards the end of this year in connection with a peaceful settlement between Russia and Ukraine. There is also about a 20% chance that there will be a new phase of escalation in the fall, most likely related to the desire of Poland and the Baltic States to also participate in military operations against Russia. For Russia, this is an acceptable option, it will probably end with new territorial acquisitions. I assess the risk of nuclear escalation with a full-fledged direct confrontation between Russia and NATO as minimal. I assess Ukraine's ability to reverse the unfavorable course of the conflict during the current counter-offensive as zero, I think this counter-offensive has almost completely fizzled out. And there will be no next chance for Ukraine.
Ok, some random % based on nothing more than personal expectations. So far you weren't doing very well with future predictions, but continue. And dreams about more territorial gains when Russia was taking Bakhum for how long, 10 months? Oh, I forgot, it wasn't even Russia but Wagner.
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Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

You're like a small child who gets a dollar for ice cream and a dollar for candy and comes home crying without ice cream or candy. "Why didn't you buy it?". "I forgot which dollar is which". It doesn't matter which grain goes to Africa and which dollars pay for it, as long as the supply is sufficient to keep the price affordable. Real world works differently than Stalin's (or Tito's) five year plan, try to keep up.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?

Is Russia sending grain to Africa? A bulk wheat shipment is en route to Africa - https://www.dw.com/en/a-bulk-wheat-shipment-is-en-route-to-africa/a-62869235. The real question is, did Russia poison the grain like the Ukraine is doing with the shipments they export?

Sure, blame Russia for the toxic Ukraine grain. But it is Monsanto practices of spraying poisonous weed killers on the grain. After all, it is Monsanto who along with 2 other companies, bought up 60% of Ukraine farmland.

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It looks like a gesture of desperation from Biden against the backdrop of empty NATO arsenals. It won't fundamentally change anything on the battlefield, but it could split the ranks of NATO allies, many of whom have already denounced the move, and rob the US of "moral high ground" if it used to be. The use of cluster munitions can be qualified as a war crime.
So, you want to admit that Russia did war crimes by shelling Ukraine with cluster munitions? Or you trying to deny facts that Russia used it in this war or as you call ''special operation?
But as I said, Ukraine didn't ratified convention against cluster munitions, same as USA. And Russia too. So, there is no point ot look for war crimes there.
I want to say what I already said above. Personally, I don’t see a big problem in the supply of cluster munitions from the United States to Ukraine, especially since Ukraine used cluster munitions quite actively before, for example, shelling Donetsk with petal mines or attacking Kramatorsk with Tochka-U missiles with a cluster warhead about a year ago (April 8, 2022 to be exact). You are right, Ukraine, Russia and the US have not ratified this convention. However, many NATO countries have ratified it, such as Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc. - and from their point of view, this is a war crime.

does not qualify at all as war crime. The use of cluster munitions in civil populated areas is, due to the extreme chance of collateral damage.  Europe do not like them because they are basically a defective product that fails between 5 and 20% and then stay in there for very long.

To give any credit to those claims of previous useI would need some sources as just saying so does not make it so.

On the "desperation" interpretation... I think if they really worked as intended is perfect for clearing trenches, so it is just the right weapon for the taks.
In general, this is a good sign for Russia and for the whole world. There are many signals that there are very active behind-the-scenes negotiations between various participants, one way or another involved in the conflict. I think that with a probability of about 80%, this topic will lose its relevance towards the end of this year in connection with a peaceful settlement between Russia and Ukraine. There is also about a 20% chance that there will be a new phase of escalation in the fall, most likely related to the desire of Poland and the Baltic States to also participate in military operations against Russia. For Russia, this is an acceptable option, it will probably end with new territorial acquisitions. I assess the risk of nuclear escalation with a full-fledged direct confrontation between Russia and NATO as minimal. I assess Ukraine's ability to reverse the unfavorable course of the conflict during the current counter-offensive as zero, I think this counter-offensive has almost completely fizzled out. And there will be no next chance for Ukraine.

If Ukraine strikes a peace deal with Russia then I don't care for all the civilians horribly killed in Bucha,Irpin and Kharkiv as that means that Ukraine does not give the slightest f for all the blood of innocent civilians shed,not talking about military personnel as they live to die in the battlefield,that is their mission.

I don't think Ukraine is as stupid though,they know any peace negotiation with Russia is not at all a peace negotiation,Russia is the greatest liar in the world and they can attack again out of nowhere because they will feel like that,one night an ill imperial fantasy dream will go through the head of many government persons and boom Ukraine under siege again.So I think Ukraine should continue fighting as long as it takes for Victory,Russia can't and they will join NATO,then they will not give a damn anymore what Russia does,only then they will be safe from this evil.
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Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

You're like a small child who gets a dollar for ice cream and a dollar for candy and comes home crying without ice cream or candy. "Why didn't you buy it?". "I forgot which dollar is which". It doesn't matter which grain goes to Africa and which dollars pay for it, as long as the supply is sufficient to keep the price affordable. Real world works differently than Stalin's (or Tito's) five year plan, try to keep up.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?
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I assume that supporting the countries that need that grain does not count as an "advantage" to the RF? No wonder you have to keep the federation together by force - the RF do not seem to understand the basics of human relations other than "do as I tell you or I kill you".

I don't see any "west" flags there, do you?

https://youtu.be/PVZehWXvVx8

https://time.com/6163624/russia-africa/


So spread your PR elsewhere  Grin
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Have you tried first making peace between India and China?  Roll Eyes
And by first I mean before doing drugs!


Russia is taking care of making peace between China and India. It's called BRICS.

Try nutritional supplements sometime.

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Have you tried first making peace between India and China?  Roll Eyes
And by first I mean before doing drugs!

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Time for Russia to end the war by taking Kiev.

Wasn't Kyiv taken like one year and a half ago? Oh, you said Kiev, where's that, south Oregon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv



Russia isn't sitting around doing nothing in the world.

You're right, it's taking some A2M and TAP no holes barred while sitting and day dreaming oh Kyiv. Oh beautiful Kyiv, how many shattered dreams of sunflower orcs you caused.

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World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

I think with a 95% chance the grain deal will not be renewed. There are several reasons for this, in fact, none of the conditions requested by Russia within the framework of this deal was fulfilled. Any deal assumes that all interested parties receive their part of the benefits from its implementation, in this case, the benefits of extending the grain deal for Russia are not obvious.

I assume that supporting the countries that need that grain does not count as an "advantage" to the RF? No wonder you have to keep the federation together by force - the RF do not seem to understand the basics of human relations other than "do as I tell you or I kill you".
LOL what? Do you really understand the meaning of the word "deal"? Since the conclusion of the grain deal, none of its points regarding Russia has been fulfilled. Moreover, immediately after its last extension, the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline was defiantly blown up by Ukraine in the Kharkov region. A deal is a deal, if one of its parts is not fulfilled, the deal is terminated.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.
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