Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 132. (Read 73994 times)

 I would tag the words of the American government and every other country who claims their support is with Ukraine as a  "behind the scenes blabbing " because if they really wanted to end the war between Ukraine and Russia they all knew what to do. Believe me that when Russia finally launches to an attack on the provinces of Ukraine none of those countries will raise a  single finger against Russia.

My take NATO, U.S. and the rest who says they support Ukraine should openly aid them with all physical support and not support on media .

There is sufficient advance and the tactical situation has been much improved in several locations along the front. If you prefer going for "there is no progress" to "the progress is not sufficient" to then "the progress is not tactically important" in three posts... well that speaks for itself.

Ukraine is doing a very difficult thing: using combined weapons approach without the right combined weapons.  They are in obvious need of better air detection, drone protections and certainly a squadron of f16 (Gripen does not seem to be coming).

The strategy is nothing special... hit logistics at the back, create the widest front possible, push in several directions, look for the "easiest" way of advancing and keep the pressure so that the RF is not able to move troops freely from one front section to another. In my view, Ukraine would need better air capabilities, better drone defence and of these, it may get some jets and some enhanced strike capability if ATACAMS are supplied.

Other than that, fronts do not collapse... until they do. This way of fighting resembles much more a Phalanx / Hoplites battle than anything else. Both sides have good defence and push each other... until one side leaves a hole or is attacked on the flanks, the line spreads and gets thinner... 20 minutes later you got 5000 guys running back to Moscow Thebes.

Same old... spread the front, rotate, damage logistics and in one of the rounds it just may happen that you hit that undersupplied, demoralised and thinned brigade that decides that is not worth dying for Putin.

At a simple word from Vlad - a simple nod of the head - and Belarus will take Kiev out. The war will be done, except for rounding up the few Ukraine rebel militants.

I would love to see them try again. Now, every reservist, TO household has a few Javelins... Russians would be slaughtered right after they cross the border.

Russians are hell-bent on dying so let's go Vlad.

They cannot move any forces from the southern front. Quite the opposite, they have to constantly replace the losses with
freshly mobilized and convicts.

They would need at least 1M army to storm the northern border in order to be able to reach Kyiv and another 1M+ to take it.

That would be a massive undertaking, not impossible, but it would take years to prepare such a campaign.

Otherwise, they risk losing millions of men.

I thought the Russian public would start questioning this war at around 200,000 KIA, but I was wrong.

This will go on until the Russians decide they've had enough, or until they realize that the ruins are not worth it.

Does anyone think that Crimea, Luhansk, or Donbas will be safe even with the current front line? Ukrainians will be
hitting it preventing the Russian army from exercising full control over that area.
It is just a waste of money and human resources, IMHO.

Russians, kill the old man and move on.

Time for Russia to end the war by taking Kiev. It's only about 60 miles from the Belarus border, and the Ukrainian troops are 400 miles away. See the article here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62498236, plus below.


Military experts insist Ukraine’s counteroffensive is not failing, “just off to a slow start” – tell that to the Marines

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-07-02-military-experts-insist-ukraine-counteroffensive-isnt-failing.html
Military experts insist that Ukraine's much-anticipated offensive is not failing, claiming that it is "way too early" to be drawing conclusions about the success or failure of Kyiv's renewed push to retake territories.

Kyiv has launched one of its largest military operations since the start of the war. But now, even Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is acknowledging that this offensive is going "slower than expected."

"It's just getting underway," said retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, who formerly served as the commanding general of United States Army Europe, in an interview with Business Insider. "Most of Ukraine's army is not even in the fight yet."

Official sources claim that Ukraine is still in the initial phase of its most recent ground operations, which are focused on collecting information and confirming intelligence that offers insight into the enemy's objectives.

"The offensive has started, but not the main attack," claimed retired Australian Army Maj. Gen. Mick Ryan. He added that the Ukrainians have taken a broad front approach to the conflict, scanning the front lines and trying to find penetrable places to attempt to break through the Russian defenses.

"When they find it, they'll do it," he said. "They only have to create one significant breakthrough to cause all kinds of problems for the Russians."

Ukraine working hard to counter Moscow's messaging about "failed" counteroffensive
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All the achievements of Ukraine in the framework of the current counter-offensive are forest plantations in the "gray" zone and several villages on the Vremievsky ledge without confident control. Maybe there are some achievements in the Antonovsky Bridge area, because you have repeatedly mentioned Ukraine's activity in this direction? No, there is also a fiasco. There is not a single occupied height in the Bakhmut area for a month. There are attempts to organize pressure along the entire front line, and nowhere is it successful.

At the same time, Ukraine's tactics are very strange - a quick approach of assault infantry in armored vehicles to the line of contact and attempts to engage in close combat. Are you seriously? In almost a year and a half of the conflict, Ukraine has never achieved significant success in close combat against Russia. These are obviously failed attempts.

False, there are settlements captured in several sections of the front and a total of 40 km2 south and north of Bakhmut, 138 km2 south Velyka Novosilka and more than 100 km2 north of Robotyne. This is the equivalent of one year of RF fighting in a few weeks. If you measure progress with the same standards that you measure the old RF advances, Ukraine is going top speed.

Peace negotiations with territorial gains for RF ... I do not see that happening under Biden. Nor probably under any US president that understands what happens next if the RF "looks victorious".

Oh... glad to know that you consider the CIA as a trustworthy source... I hope your handlers do too but the article says...

I have already asked this before but damn I will ask again and the question is where the f*ck do you Russians buy your drugs,I think is hallucinating drugs as that is the only option you write this total bullshit here.Bakhmut is near full capture and they have made small gains in every other direction,the chief military commander of Ukraine said that we are not in the movies here,it will take time as every meter liberated is full of blood shed there.I read the news daily and I don't know any will to peace negotiations with Russia especially now that Russia is on the losing side of the war,that is why I ask about drugs in the beginning  .

What progress are you talking about? The Ukrainian counter-offensive has been marking time for a whole month and has not made any progress on any sector of the front. Here is an interesting visual infographic from the New York Times with the "progress" of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye direction. Considering the price in terms of casualties and wasted armor Ukraine paid for this ridiculous progress, this is simply a shame.

And here is an interesting recent article in the Washington Post about the recent visit of the CIA director to Kyiv, it seems Zelensky is already considering options for peace negotiations taking into account Russia's interests, that is, with the recognition of territorial losses. I think you are right that the denouement is near, only I think it will be a very different denouement than the one you dream of. More like Ukraine's internal readiness to raise the white flag.

He would need to show some progress, and there is some progress. Not as much as many would have liked and certainly not very fast (I mean, except for RF standards, that take 1 year for Bhakmut and cannot even keep it safe). I think that at this point the US and allies cannot really accept anything that looks too "victorious" for Putin, so if there is no progress, it simply means that the war will continue for another year.

Anyway, next week is going to be quite shaky. There are some indications of more pressure in all fronts.

It seems Zelensky is cornered - he has less than ten days left to demonstrate success in the counteroffensive, which so far in the Zaporozhye direction (and this is the main direction for cutting the land corridor to Crimea) cannot even approach the first line of defense. And there are no successes in other areas either. Now is the time to attempt sabotage at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant with radioactive contamination of the area. So the American sniffer plane obviously did not accidentally fly to Europe to monitor the air. Curious how far Zelenskiy is willing to go?

BS...everyone forgot even worse war crimes in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq...

If Russia goes in nuclear war then they know very well that as soon as they hit the first rocket they will cease to exist as a country as all other nuclear powers will respond accordingly shooting the hell out of Russia.Sure it will be a massive catastrophe in the world but I doubt if Russia is ready for this,they would be better to accept that they are losing this war every day and this is better to accept than starting a nuclear war which will end with the complete wipe of Russia from earth.

Biden administration is seriously looking to provide long range weapons to Ukraine,the Himars were a game changer last year,now the new ones will again be a game changer but a final one and Russia should accept that when you start an aggression based on bullshit reasons like Nazis in Ukraine you will lose this war and after losing it no one will look at Russia the same way again,the horrendous war crimes committed in Bucha,Irpin and Kharkiv will never be forgotten.

Looks like the US is trying to get people to believe that up until now they knew that Russia wasn't going to use nukes... and that now they suspect Russia might use them. Russia has been telling us all along that when the US pushes far enough, they absolutely will use nukes.

Should people in the US prepare for nuclear war? Absolutely YES! But how do you do that? A simple start is, MOVE OUT OF THE BIG CITIES.


U.S. Moves "Constant Phoenix" Nuke-Sniffer Plane to Crete

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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/u-s-moves-constant-phoenix-nuke-sniffer-plane-to-crete
This plane's job is to sniff the atmosphere for proof of nuclear materials in the air. With all the talk in Ukraine about an attack coming against the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant, this plane's task is obvious - find reason to blame Russia.

The plane, shown on the Flight map above has arrived in the eastern Mediterranean, a short hop to Ukraine for what may be the excuse drummed-up by Ukraine, to get NATO directly involved in combat against Russia.
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Branko does not like questions. He already has all the answers. In his dictionary, Putin cannot be wrong. I mean, ever, in anything... all that happens in the world is a psy-op that us mortals do not see and cannot understand.

The fuckup of this war will go into the history books as such. Even if Ukraine ha to accept loosing territory (a big big if), Putin will have signed of for a second collapse of the USSR Russia by entering again the same cold war they already lost.

Yes Branko, the commies, you friends, lost massively. It is not a psy-op, they disappeared in the sands of history.

Among many other things, in this thread in particular I'm questioning your fearless leader's mental capacity, as evidenced by his inability to admit his fuckup and retreat from Ukraine to save Russian lives. I guess that's not good a question, not approved by politburo, amirite.

Of course we are not going to trust anything Russians say,they have made a name for themselves as the biggest liars in the world.Oh we don't hit civilians and they killed really young people in the attack on Kramatorsk when they hit RIA Pizzeria Lounge as of course they were a dangerous targets to Russia,people eating pizza minding their own business are a big threat to Russians so they got and killed very young people,that is a massive war crime that the Western media unfortunately is not doing as much as they should to emphasize these war crimes by Russia.

Isn't he afraid of anything? The only thing that is 100% sure, is that he's not ashamed of anything

He's afraid of so many things and of so many people. He's so frightened that he locks up anything that might contradict his primary rhetoric. Why so many people in jail if he is not afraid to hear something different than his own bullshits ?

Your Putler is scared by collectives of women singing in churches, so believe me, the list of things that scare him is endless.

The only thing he's not afraid of is dictatorial excesses. I've written it here before, and I insist, he's weak, and it's always the weak animals that are the most aggressive ones.

Funny how you're not ready to question anything

Pseudo-coup fallout continues: Prigozhin's media empire, including the US-election-meddling troll factory and the infamous 15-ruble brigade, is being shut down. So now if any of these Kremlin copy-pasters show up here again we'll know for sure that they're bona fide deranged putinists. Speaking of which...


Not afraid but ran away from Moscow at the first sign of trouble. Glorious fearless leader. When parade in Bakhmut?