Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 208. (Read 73721 times)

How does Western media make you think there's a fascist inclination?  

You don't really know what fascism means, do you?  Just a word you hear being used to describe bad things.

If Putin simply Bide(n)s his time, with winter coming and all, Ukraine will fall. The US can't take it, because it will mean the crash of the US money system. So...


In Stunning Strategy Reversal, Pentagon Will No Longer Rule Out Use Of Nuclear Weapons

Ahhh well now you cleared it up, so when general says when he "takes the Nova Kakhovka dam under our artillery fire control.”  what he's actually talking about is the military positions that just happened to be around the dam, and the dam being in the vicinity of this is just a silly coincidence. Now this is a story i can believe! Why would Ukraine blow up the damn that brings fresh water to Crimea that would be nonsense right?  

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Don't blow up the dam? But Russia is adding reinforcements to Kherson down the dam and without the dam Crimea would loose its fresh water access. And you know how Russia likes to blow up their gas pipes and shell their nuclear plants, not sure if they can just hold back from blowing up the dam that helps them so much?

Losing when it might be losing, you could've just said that it's inconceivable to you.  

You know you have superiority complex, maybe even fascist inclination, when you only
value western media, one that brought us Ghost of Kiev and other such garbage

At the risk of making this a serious thread instead of the clown circus that BA likes, I wonder how would an strategy to take Zapo nuclear plant would look like. It would require an encirclement of quite a length and laser precision in all an any action to avoid and invitation to a rad-party with a +20. It also would need to include a quite difficult river crossing.

I wonder if some independent-thinking psycho could even decide to win the war by himself - one does not get to own a red button every day you know.

All the while the people of Donbas being subject to Ukraine's military killing them and destroying their property.

All the while Ukrainian lands being whisked away to become property of humongous American companies.

All the while some 46 Wuhan-style bio-warfare labs being set up in Ukraine.

All the while the US doing coups in the Ukrainian government since at least 2014.

All the while the Bidens and other Dem leaders laundering money thru Ukraine.

All the while the Ukranian peons being pee'd on and thinking it was simply a nice, warm, friendly spring rain.

Absurdity of which claims? You're the one throwing a bunch of random stuff out here, mostly Kremlin propaganda in the form of loaded or rhetorical questions. Granted that's quite absurd so mission accomplished I guess.


Well, that's an easy one to avoid. Don't blow up the dam.


I'm sure your strategic advice is very valuable to the Ukrainian armed forces but they'll probably ignore it and continue doing what they've been successfully doing for the last few months. Here's an illustration in case you forgot.


(maps from https://liveuamap.com)


Bakhmut is a decisive battle for Prigozhin. He desperately needs to show a "victory" to boost his image and get more financing for his criminal army.


If it starts losing that would be a major indicator that it might be losing. So far I'd say that all this desperate BS about dirty bombs, and the new cannon fodder returning home boxed-up within a couple of weeks after being mobilized, and the fairy tales about taking Kyiv again - everything points to Russia nowhere near being able to reverse the momentum.

Ask any friend you have in the military why they want to have a dam they intend to eventually control firstly "in artillery range". Hint 1: When you are not in the enemy's artillery range, the enemy cannot shell your position to dust. Hint 2: if you are under shelling, it is usually a bad idea to stay there. Read carefully: Not the dam, the military positions around the dam. I hope this is correctly understood.

I just said why, but it aaaaalll right... I can say it again: Nearly all the water supply to Crimea comes from the canal on the east bank near the dam. The general is sending a clear message to the world: "The RF is about to loose a critical asset to hold the grip on Crimea".

I rarely say anything categorically, but on this case, it is very clear that it would ridiculously stupid for Ukraine to blow that dam. The sad thing is that, if it ever happens nobody would claim ownership of the f**kup.

When Russia was failing to take Kiev back in March, Ukraine was listening to soldiers phone calls.  Pretty clever decision to hand over the recordings to the NY Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/28/world/europe/russian-soldiers-phone-calls-ukraine.html

The point is to underline the absurdity of the claims, not sure where you're seeing ura-patriotism!?! What is pretty certain that if damn is blown while over 50% of Kherson is under RU control, then Orcs just like to shoot at themselves, if it's blown when UA takes over 50% then RU are terrorists. I'm just glad that Russians are at least evacuating civilians! Ukraine's window of opportunity is shrinking, winter is coming it'll take away mobility and cover which Ukraine managed to greatly use to its advantage. Ukraine needs to throw in all it got before that, is it enough to take Kherson? i have no idea (i didn't even think UA could take all that land by Kharkiv), do you consider it or Bakhmut a decisive battle? does it really matter outside of posturing and these forum bickering? What interests me more are concrete indicators of the conflict turning one way or the other. Let me ask you this, what are some major indicators for you that Ukraine might be loosing? (Or it's just inconceivable for you?) Here's what i'm looking at
Elections in US Watch as support for funding Ukraine erodes among Republicans
GBP, EUR, JPY, RUB, USD rates.
Indicators of Belarus joining the conflict opening new front
New committed aid to Ukraine UA believes that it's fighting for EU, will EU provide electricity to Ukraine?
Will new UK prime minister hold out longer than a head of lettuce?

Is there a point you're trying to make or do you just need to vent your ura-patriotism after Putin's speech?

Are Russians not going to run from Kherson?

Ah such a concise and clear explanation, so general wants to take the damn under artillery fire because it's a key for Crimea and that's why it'll accelerate Russian withdrawal? Clear as mud, but who cares just need to arrange words in a somewhat readable sentence, targeted audience can't think for themselves anyway.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3602356-russians-not-fleeing-from-kherson-besttrained-soldiers-remain-in-place-zelensky.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-situation-report-intel-chief-says-russia-is-reinforcing-kherson-city/ar-AA13kUop

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/is-kakhovka-dam-ukraine-about-be-blown-2022-10-21/

I'm sure by "artillery fire control" what the general really meant was "to secure and provide safety for" and it will accelerate withdrawal because Russians will just piss their pants and run away from such provided safety to the damn! Right? I need this, please lie to me some more!

The "gas pipes" were blown up by the RF, international experts have expressed serious concerns about Zapo plant being blown as the RF does not accept a demilitarised zone around it. And, most importantly, the control of the dam is key for Crimea as it may restrict (or allow) the water supply, not something to blow up with artillery (another stupid theory - Ukraine blowing up the key to their hold over Crimea) and that is why it may have been mentioned.

Now, go back to the drawing board of your alternate reality. BTW, curiously and as of now, your link points to this headline:

Glad we finally found someone who can speak on behalf of the whole country. Now care to provide an example of a nations that don't want to join NATO (if there are any)? Do Belarusians want to join? Serbs? Taiwanese? Australians? How much resources would it take to "convince" a small nation that they want to join NATO? Is it a stable system, if you have a hegemony and global reserve currency what can possible stop you from endless expansion and consumption of more regions? Congrats you have a solution to perpetual word at war! Possible outcomes of conflict in Ukraine, either things go how they were prior to 2014, or Ukraine enters NATO and it starts all over, world gets dragged into the same thing but now to free people in Belarus because they just want to join NATO so muuch!

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I guess if the masses don't question why would Russia shoot at the nuclear power plant that it controls, let people out of Mariupol before taking it over, or blow up their own gas pipeline before it's needed the most, they won't question why would UA's Major General of Defence Intelligence Agency want to take Nova Kakhovka dam under artillery fire control, or how exactly that would accelerate Russian withdrawal? I mean people still believe that Orc's just like to shoot at themselves for fun right?? Or did CNN started to push RU propaganda?

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-26-22#h_8270748d1157f665c09b2df10d90501d

There is only one way that de-Satanization works for anybody, be it person, family, or nation. This is through believing in the existence of God and His Son, Jesus. And the believing comes through reading or listening to what is written in the Bible.

The point is, you jokers need to get de-Satanized. If you don't, the pains - and worse - that are being suffered by Ukrainians - and some Russians in Ukraine - will be falling on you one of these days.

You know you have a fake news addiction issue when you have to use Iranian "news" sources to satisfy the craving.

More volunteers coming to defend Ukraine:

https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14010803000391/Repr-Dzens-f-Al-Qaeda-Linked-Terrriss-Redeplyed-Ukraine-frm-Syria

Winter will serve Russia indirectly, given the economic war it is waging against Ukraine's allies regarding gas. Winter is always on the side of the Russians.

I agree with you on this point because all the Russian armed forces, in addition to the reserve forces that were forcibly called up, do not have enough experience to fight a field war in the classical way. But we should not forget the large number of these soldiers, who are undoubtedly capable of making a difference, no matter how many losses they have.

What I meant by the example of Napoleon was not to acknowledge that Russia had succeeded in defeating him, but rather that winter was and always is a catalyst for Russia.

Do not feed the pets please, they are already take a balanced intake of phantasy, delusion, elucubration and wishful thinking that is best for the "piose" as "outsiders" and for a great shiny hair.