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November 08, 2022, 02:23:03 PM
For you funny people fed by your "free" press, look here how is that "freedom" created, lol

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1589606899569377282

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November 08, 2022, 10:10:52 AM
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A full letter from the fighters of the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Pacific Fleet addressed to the Governor of Primorsky Krai:

“Dear Oleg Nikolaevich. The Marines of the 155th Marine Brigade are addressing you.
Once again, we were thrown into an incomprehensible offensive by General Muradov and his fellow countryman Akhmedov, in order for Muradov to earn bonuses over Gerasimov and Akhmedov Muradov promised a hero of Russia. As a result, we and the marines of Kamchatka are advancing on Pavlovka. As a result of the "carefully" planned offensive by the "great generals", we lost about 300 people in 4 days, killed, wounded and missing. 50 percent technology. This is just our team. The command of the district, together with Akhmedov, hide this and take the official figures of losses for fear of responsibility. How were they going to capture the settlement by slipping through the landings in which the enemy remained now destroying ours on the evacuation routes of the wounded and the supply of ammunition. In addition, Pavlovka is lower than Ugledar, from which they beat us.
Oleg Nikolaevich, Primorye people! How long will such mediocrity as Muradov and Akhmedov plan military operations for the sake of their reports and receive awards at the cost of the lives of so many people. They don't care about anything just to show themselves. They call people meat.
We ask you to turn to the Supreme Commander so that they send a commission not from the Ministry of Defense where Muradoaa is protected by Gerasimov, but an independent one. Let them be asked the purpose of such actions, their provision, and the results without embellishment.
How much can you endure!”

ps: when you can already understand that such messages are not machinations of hahlov, but the truth (although I doubt the number of dead), in turn, I will add that for the most part there are so many where, there are good commanders, but they are a minority, because they were gobbled up by the system for the sake of such fagots, as for Muradov (like Lapina ), then they were praised, defended, etc., when he behaved like a cuckold in Karabakh, when the Azerbaijani side fired on the Armenians and our peacekeeping contingent as much as they wanted
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November 08, 2022, 04:36:48 AM
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Most of the aircraft drones produced in Russia do not meet the tactical and technical requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This was stated on Tuesday, September 28, by Colonel Igor Ischuk, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during the round table "Prospects for the development of unmanned vehicle technologies in the Russian Federation."

“The Ministry of Defense has developed the appropriate tactical and technical requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles. And most manufacturers, unfortunately, are not able to fulfill them. And the main problem of non-fulfillment is the element base, ”Ishchuk said.
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Of course Russia would understand that it is necessary to stay on top of the technology in order to be competitive against real adversaries, and I don't doubt that they are recognizing their deficiencies in certain areas and correcting.  That's not the case here.  Ukraine is a technologically primitive enclave of thoroughly corrupt leaders and retarded nazis who seem to struggle to make basic use of even the worn out, broken, and obsolete weaponry dumped on them by NATO.  In this case, hand-made flying lawnmowers, from Iran or otherwise, are proving quite effective.

Anyway, the job of the ordinary people of The Ukraine seems to be to immigrate or die and make way for a different population.  This they are doing satisfactorily with the 'assistance' of Zelenskj, the U.S. State Dept NaZiocons, and the Russians.

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November 08, 2022, 02:44:04 AM
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November 08, 2022, 01:13:36 AM
Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?
LOL, you're beating dead horse again with same stories from alternative reality about staged Bucha or Ukrainian shelling of Kramatorsk. And you're still surprised that UN ignores Russia request to investigate secret ''bio labs'' in Ukraine when Russia most likely will provide same quality ''proofs'' like in these stories. It would be jsut waste of time
Say thanks to paxmao.

An alternative reality is being created by the efforts of the Ukrainian Center for Psychological Operations. All these Butches, eaten dogs, raped grandmothers, stolen toilets are the fruit of the diseased imagination of drug-addicted fighters of the information war.

Ukrainian point-y missile
Is that one better than "кpaпкa-y"?
Where does Ukraine get good missiles from? Both are shitty.
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November 07, 2022, 09:21:35 PM
Ukrainian point-y missile

Is that one better than "кpaпкa-y"?
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November 07, 2022, 07:48:13 PM
I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest



So, Russia can put objects into space at will, have hyper-sonic weapons, optionally nuclear tipped, which cannot be stopped by anyone, can dump as many artillery shells in a few weeks than all those used in WW-II or some such and seem to have not run out yet, etc...but they cannot manufacture a 50hp chainsaw engined flying corn-chip?

That you could actually believe such a thing explains a lot about why you are wrong about pretty much everything else on this earth.

Lol.  Here you go champ.


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Бoльшинcтвo пpoизвoдимыx в Poccии aвиaциoнныx бecпилoтникoв нe yдoвлeтвopяют тaктикo-тexничecким тpeбoвaниям Mиниcтepcтвa oбopoны PФ. Oб этoм зaявил вo втopник, 28 ceнтябpя, пpeдcтaвитeль Mинoбopoны PФ пoлкoвник Игopь Ищyк в xoдe кpyглoгo cтoлa «Пepcпeктивы paзвития тexнoлoгий бecпилoтныx тpaнcпopтныx cpeдcтв в PФ».

«Mинoбopoны paзpaбoтaны cooтвeтcтвyющиe тaктикo-тexничecкиe тpeбoвaния, пpeдъявляeмыe к бecпилoтным лeтaтeльным aппapaтaм. И бoльшинcтвo пpoизвoдитeлeй, к coжaлeнию, нe cпocoбны иx выпoлнить. И ocнoвнaя пpoблeмa нeвыпoлнeния — элeмeнтнaя бaзa», — cкaзaл Ищyк.
https://iz.ru/1402199/2022-09-28/mo-zaiavilo-o-nesootvetstvii-trebovaniiam-bolshinstva-rossiiskikh-dronov

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Most of the aircraft drones produced in Russia do not meet the tactical and technical requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This was stated on Tuesday, September 28, by Colonel Igor Ischuk, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during the round table "Prospects for the development of unmanned vehicle technologies in the Russian Federation."

“The Ministry of Defense has developed the appropriate tactical and technical requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles. And most manufacturers, unfortunately, are not able to fulfill them. And the main problem of non-fulfillment is the element base, ”Ishchuk said.



Further reading:

https://informnapalm.org/en/russia-lagging-behind-in-combat-drone-technologies-and-trying-to-hide-it-through-information-operations/

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For a long time, the Russian mass media and industry sources had promoted the position that UCAVs were unsuitable for use in high-efficiency conflicts; the Russians had viewed them rather as a toy for military operations in third world countries.

This could be explained both by the conservative thinking of the Russian command, which was educated on the classical concepts dating back to the Cold War times, and by the complete inability of the Russian military-industrial complex to master the production of modern microelectronics.
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November 07, 2022, 07:35:17 PM
Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?
LOL, you're beating dead horse again with same stories from alternative reality about staged Bucha or Ukrainian shelling of Kramatorsk. And you're still surprised that UN ignores Russia request to investigate secret ''bio labs'' in Ukraine when Russia most likely will provide same quality ''proofs'' like in these stories. It would be jsut waste of time

I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest
Really. There is audio files on text with original message, and text is just translated. Ukrainian SBU release such calls on regular basis
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November 07, 2022, 07:12:14 PM
Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?
Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.
Source please? Unless that goings against the ancestral uses of your Eastern tribe.
Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?

For you, it would not matter if Adolf Putin came out in public television to say that he personally ordered the execution of that people. There is even video footage of live unprovoked killings and a quite large number of witnesses that suffered the "brotherly eastern love of the pan-Slavic movement". They got such a dose of glorious eastern culture that they will be thanking the RF forever.

I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest

I assume it is translated. Seriously, nobody would be that stupid as to make an RF Orc speak in English with his  poor mommy.
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November 07, 2022, 03:32:18 PM
I find it strange that Sergey is talking to his mother in English language.
If I'd have to guess, my best guess would be that Sergey sits in some SBU office, and not in forest
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November 07, 2022, 02:59:31 PM
Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?
Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.
Source please? Unless that goings against the ancestral uses of your Eastern tribe.
Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?









https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/28/world/europe/russian-soldiers-phone-calls-ukraine.html
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November 07, 2022, 01:07:07 PM
Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?
Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.
Source please? Unless that goings against the ancestral uses of your Eastern tribe.
Ei incumbit probacio, qui dicit.

Some of the victims in Bucha died from artillery shelling from the Ukrainian side, and the other part was executed by the Nazis of the Boatswain during a raid to identify collaborators, and then a staged recording was made on professional film equipment. In Kramatorsk, civilians were shelled with a Ukrainian point-y missile. Are you too lazy to chew that gum again?
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November 07, 2022, 12:49:06 PM
Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?
Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.

Source please? Unless that goings against the ancestral uses of your Eastern tribe.

RE Iranian drones, I think that only concerns Iran, as it will build up on the list of accusations that the US has against the regime. The only conclusion I could draw of the RF using IKEA drones - actually some IKEA furniture has more know-how than those drones i- is that the all glorious and mighty Orc Army and their enlightened Chief Psychos are really running out of ideas, chips and any weapons built after the 80's.

Recently UK intelligence estimates 278 RF aircraft losses, nearly 76,000 RF soldiers killed for nothing, while Putin claims that 80,000 more are in the occupied areas - most of these are the slave army, not true professional soldiers. Also, it estimated that only 5% are from Moscow / St Petersburg, most of the cannon fodder comes from the poorer areas of the RF.
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November 07, 2022, 04:41:19 AM
I’ll say that this is definitely not an original Russian development - military acceptance in Russia would never have accepted such a miserable product as Geranium-2. I think this is a slightly modified and improved copy of the Iranian Shaheed-136, are you happy now?

Please enlighten us why the glorious Russian military has resorted to using such an inferior Iranian product, instead of their own vastly superior drones or missiles.

Because its cheaper, and still get a job done?

It's because they aren't able to manufacture the drones themselves. 

So, Russia can put objects into space at will, have hyper-sonic weapons, optionally nuclear tipped, which cannot be stopped by anyone, can dump as many artillery shells in a few weeks than all those used in WW-II or some such and seem to have not run out yet, etc...but they cannot manufacture a 50hp chainsaw engined flying corn-chip?

That you could actually believe such a thing explains a lot about why you are wrong about pretty much everything else on this earth.

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WRT the 'Iranian' drones, I've heard one story/idea that they started out as a soon abandoned Russian project under the general umbrella of the groups who 'owns' Kalashnikov.  They handed the project off to the Iranians a while ago, and they did significantly more R&D and got them pretty flyable.  Russia then bought them back and did some updates to the navigation systems.  They are reported (by Ukraine who got a few in tact) to be of a 'hand made' nature.  If this is the case, I would expect that yes, at least the early crop had at least air-frames and powerplants fabricated in Iran.  But, so what?

If it's the case that anyone who has the ability to build a car for weekend races can hammer one of these things together, and if the prints and 'open sourced', it could open up some world-wide possibilities.

That said, I suspect that the reason these things seem so effective is that they are so 'bad'.  The anti-aircraft systems designers didn't even think of a slow flying and 'thermally quiet' targets...because they were more focused on how many millions of $$$ they could bilk out of the American taxpayers instead.  But, with another few billion $$$ for R&D and a few years, Lockheed and friends probably could 'de-tune' some of their existing overpriced junk to be effective against flying lawn mowers as well.

Of course we are right back to spending $1,000,000 to get a shot at a $20,000 target.  In other words, right where the military/industrial complex wishes to be.

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November 07, 2022, 03:56:49 AM
I’ll say that this is definitely not an original Russian development - military acceptance in Russia would never have accepted such a miserable product as Geranium-2. I think this is a slightly modified and improved copy of the Iranian Shaheed-136, are you happy now?

Please enlighten us why the glorious Russian military has resorted to using such an inferior Iranian product, instead of their own vastly superior drones or missiles.

Because its cheaper, and still get a job done?

It's because they aren't able to manufacture the drones themselves. 
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November 07, 2022, 02:56:09 AM
I’ll say that this is definitely not an original Russian development - military acceptance in Russia would never have accepted such a miserable product as Geranium-2. I think this is a slightly modified and improved copy of the Iranian Shaheed-136, are you happy now?

Please enlighten us why the glorious Russian military has resorted to using such an inferior Iranian product, instead of their own vastly superior drones or missiles.

Because its cheaper, and still get a job done?
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November 07, 2022, 02:51:41 AM
along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.

Yeah poor Russia, getting provoked by Ukraine military while they were simply trying to enjoy the sights of Bucha, forcing them to murder all those innocent civilians and leave their bodies in the street.  Crimea river. 
I am glad that the issue of kamikaze drones no longer bothers you.

Ukrainians will be fighting Russian aggressors to death.
Well, that means they'll die.

Yes, Captain Obvious, aggressors will die. That's the whole point.
In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.
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November 07, 2022, 02:44:40 AM
along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.

Yeah poor Russia, getting provoked by Ukraine military while they were simply trying to enjoy the sights of Bucha, forcing them to murder all those innocent civilians and leave their bodies in the street.  Crimea river. 
I am glad that the issue of kamikaze drones no longer bothers you.
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November 07, 2022, 12:59:37 AM
along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.

Yeah poor Russia, getting provoked by Ukraine military while they were simply trying to enjoy the sights of Bucha, forcing them to murder all those innocent civilians and leave their bodies in the street.  Crimea river. 
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November 07, 2022, 12:25:27 AM
I’ll say that this is definitely not an original Russian development - military acceptance in Russia would never have accepted such a miserable product as Geranium-2. I think this is a slightly modified and improved copy of the Iranian Shaheed-136, are you happy now?

Please enlighten us why the glorious Russian military has resorted to using such an inferior Iranian product, instead of their own vastly superior drones or missiles.
Russian military acceptance has very strict requirements. In particular, the product should work normally in a wide temperature range (I find it difficult to give exact figures, but let's say from minus 85 to plus 55 degrees Celsius - this range should cover the lowest temperature at the cold pole in Yakutia and the highest temperature in the desert in the southern borders of Russia), plus requirements at the place of production of all critical components of the product, plus high requirements for the overall reliability of the product. All this complicates the development of promising types of weapons and makes it very expensive. Iran has made a breakthrough in the development of kamikaze drones, which neither Russia, nor the United States, nor anyone else in the world has been able to make.

Russia has its own original kamikaze drones, such as Lancet-1, Lancet-3 and Cub-UAV, and they are actively used during the special operation. However, their payload does not exceed 3 kg of TNT, and the payload of cruise missiles is about 500 kg of TNT, and clones of Iranian drones Geran-1 and Geran-2 with a payload of about 50 kg of TNT fit very well between light loitering ammunition and cruise missiles to destroy stationary targets such as autotransformers at electrical substations.

Russia has publicly admitted they suck at making drones.  It's taken Iran decades to get to the point they are at.  Russia would need a time machine to have the drone manufacturing capability equal to Iran.

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Бoльшинcтвo пpoизвoдимыx в Poccии aвиaциoнныx бecпилoтникoв нe yдoвлeтвopяют тaктикo-тexничecким тpeбoвaниям Mиниcтepcтвa oбopoны PФ. Oб этoм зaявил вo втopник, 28 ceнтябpя, пpeдcтaвитeль Mинoбopoны PФ пoлкoвник Игopь Ищyк в xoдe кpyглoгo cтoлa «Пepcпeктивы paзвития тexнoлoгий бecпилoтныx тpaнcпopтныx cpeдcтв в PФ».

«Mинoбopoны paзpaбoтaны cooтвeтcтвyющиe тaктикo-тexничecкиe тpeбoвaния, пpeдъявляeмыe к бecпилoтным лeтaтeльным aппapaтaм. И бoльшинcтвo пpoизвoдитeлeй, к coжaлeнию, нe cпocoбны иx выпoлнить. И ocнoвнaя пpoблeмa нeвыпoлнeния — элeмeнтнaя бaзa», — cкaзaл Ищyк.
https://iz.ru/1402199/2022-09-28/mo-zaiavilo-o-nesootvetstvii-trebovaniiam-bolshinstva-rossiiskikh-dronov

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Most of the aircraft drones produced in Russia do not meet the tactical and technical requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This was stated on Tuesday, September 28, by Colonel Igor Ischuk, a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, during the round table "Prospects for the development of unmanned vehicle technologies in the Russian Federation."

“The Ministry of Defense has developed the appropriate tactical and technical requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles. And most manufacturers, unfortunately, are not able to fulfill them. And the main problem of non-fulfillment is the element base, ”Ishchuk said.
As they say, generals are always preparing for the last war.

Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?
Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.
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