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Maybe they want to first settle "shoot knee, stick knife through eye" score?

Hmm, IDK.
Sorry, but i don't get the irony in your statement.
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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
Here, in more detail, footage of the surrender of the militants of the Azov nationalist unit and Ukrainian servicemen blocked at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.

Congrats. You've finally scored a point. You've got negative 13 points now.

The numbers though...
I have read 51 wounded, 256 total, from the MoD Russia.
So, four soldiers carrying one wounded, totals 255. Seems they just kept... uhm saved... the carrying azov soldiers.
Russia has a very negative trust rating, judged by the "say/do" balances of the past. I would not rely on their announcement to swap PoW at some "later" point.

Maybe they want to first settle "shoot knee, stick knife through eye" score?
legendary
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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
Here, in more detail, footage of the surrender of the militants of the Azov nationalist unit and Ukrainian servicemen blocked at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.

Congrats. You've finally scored a point. You've got negative 13 points now.

The numbers though...
I have read 51 wounded, 256 total, from the MoD Russia.
So, four soldiers carrying one wounded, totals 255. Seems they just kept... uhm saved... the carrying azov soldiers.
Russia has a very negative trust rating, judged by the "say/do" balances of the past. I would not rely on their announcement to swap PoW at some "later" point.
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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
Here, in more detail, footage of the surrender of the militants of the Azov nationalist unit and Ukrainian servicemen blocked at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.

Congrats. You've finally scored a point. You've got negative 13 points now.
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So, once Putin dies or get overthrown, and some hardliner replaces him,
what will happen next? Would it be good if Chechens get their republic
and 30-40 nukes?
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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
Here, in more detail, footage of the surrender of the militants of the Azov nationalist unit and Ukrainian servicemen blocked at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.
legendary
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General conclusion:
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At the moment, our troops are drawn into exhausting offensive battles, continuing (as I have already noted) "to play by the rules proposed by the enemy." And the point is not only and not so much in individual examples of "outstanding bungling" (such as forcing S. Donets), but in the fact that losses incurred in daily offensive battles (not ending in the defeat of the enemy) cannot be quickly compensated by trained replacements. While the enemy continues to frantically prepare its strategic reserves. And where he will deliver his blows, when our troops finally "run out of steam" - no one knows (although this can also be predicted, but I will not do this publicly ... until I do).
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I am going to allow myself to quote some WW I notes here:

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During the war, the liberal nationalist Progressists’ Utro Rossii (Russia’s Morning), published by Moscow industrialists, acquired considerable influence (circulation in 1916: 40,000-45,000; in 1917: up to 150,000). They actively pushed the subject of “German atrocities” on the military front and “German domination” in the Russian rear, while also advocating Slavophile ideas about Russia’s war aims. Most newspapers, highbrow and lowbrow, came under the influence of such ideas in the beginning of the war.

Does this sound familiar?

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Tsarist censorship strictly limited the information about military operations that could appear in the press. However, it could not stem the increasing criticism of the government. One of the main features of the Russian press during the First World War was the search for an internal enemy. The press understood the aim of the war to be the transformation of the world in accordance with, depending on the publication’s politics, Slavophile, liberal-democratic, or socialist ideals.

So, next step will be the search for the "internal enemy", this explains the purging of high ranking officers, but soon "internal nazi's" and "gayrope collaborators" will be "found gloriously" by the Russian Intelligence(less) Service.

And lastly...

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The fate of Russia and its tsarist government was bound up in the tragedy of World War I. Like other European powers, Russia entered the conflict with a haughty overestimation of its own military capacity and a critical underestimation of how long and costly the war would be. More than two years of total war would place enormous strain on Russia’s underdeveloped infrastructure and social conditions, contributing directly to the collapse of the tsarist regime.

I am starting to see a pattern here. The only issue is that a revolt on a nuclear power is not indifferent to the rest of the world.


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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
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LoL
Nice try, troll. I'm too valuable on another kind of front. Better keep doing what i ecxel at, unlinke drunk RA mobilized civilians of the "eastern front".
I quoted and highlighted this, because with that wording you are admitting, once again, that the "special military operation" is in fact war.

While Putin wanted to fight, UA has to fight. He wants to fight so much, that he's coordinating bataillions himself with his failing general of choice (what was his name already?). He should let the army professionals do their job, but no... This reveals overburdening. Putin is losing not only his mind, but also (t)his war. He should fight on the "political front" to not get Russia completely isolated. Instead he shows his emperor-complex. He went insane. Do you think two years of fear-of-covid self-isolation contributed to his sanity? If so, you're delusional.

EDIT: Just look at him. He's almost finished. Just wait for it.


I think big part of this war IS to actually isolate Russia from West...they were not wise enough, or had enough manpower to do what
China did with Great Firewall of China, and now doing it this, much more primitive way, and using war as excuse, among other things
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Igor Girkin: Russian army veteran and former Federal Security Service (FSB) officer who played a key role in the Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, and later the War in Donbas as an organizer of militant groups of the Donetsk People's Republic's. Girkin led a group of militants into Ukraine where he participated in the Siege of Sloviansk. During the battle he increased his influence and ultimately became the de-facto military commander of all separatist forces in the Donbas region, which was confirmed by the "prime minister" Alexander Borodai of the Donetsk People's Republic who appointed him as official Defense Minister.

From a recent post in his TG Channel : https://t.me/strelkovii/2557



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General conclusion:
I must state with regret that the operation to defeat the enemy's Donetsk grouping, widely publicized in late April-early May, FAIL. For more than two weeks of fierce fighting (which cost both sides very heavy losses), only tactical successes were achieved. Not a single large settlement was liberated (the exception is the city of Rubezhnoye, but the battles for it began before the offensive began). Probably, certain tactical successes will still be achieved before the moment when the enemy goes over to the counteroffensive. But it is already clear that Donbass will not be fully liberated before the beginning of summer. Probably, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not even be thrown back from the suburbs of Donetsk.
And I cannot say that this result is unexpected for me. Vice versa. The art of war requires its adherents to strike where the enemy least expects them. In our case, the intention of the Russian command was so obvious, the terrain was so beneficial for the defending side, and the balance of forces was almost equal on both sides, that only ... our General Staff could count on decisive success.
At the moment, our troops are drawn into exhausting offensive battles, continuing (as I have already noted) "to play by the rules proposed by the enemy." And the point is not only and not so much in individual examples of "outstanding bungling" (such as forcing S. Donets), but in the fact that losses incurred in daily offensive battles (not ending in the defeat of the enemy) cannot be quickly compensated by trained replacements. While the enemy continues to frantically prepare its strategic reserves. And where he will deliver his blows, when our troops finally "run out of steam" - no one knows (although this can also be predicted, but I will not do this publicly ... until I do).

What should be done in the current situation, when it became CLEAR THAT OUR TROOPS CANNOT DEAL EVEN LIMITED DAMAGE TO THE ENEMY IN A FIELD BATTLE, and when it is NECESSARY TO PREPARE FOR A PROTRACTED HEAVY LARGE-SCALE WAR - I have written and said more than once. So far, only "a good friend of all Urgants" has responded and stated that nothing of this will be done ... Well, well ...


Anyone that doesn't see what a disaster this has been for Russia is delusional.  

The Russian Military and Putins puppets are so unorganized and corrupt that even the pro Russia Seperatists are getting fed up:

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Frictions between Russian occupation administrations and pro-Russian collaborators is growing in occupied areas of Ukraine. The Zaporizhia Oblast Military Administration reported that Russian forces are having serious conflicts with collaborators due to interpersonal power conflicts.[4] A well-known collaborator in Zaporizhia accused the Russian-installed governor of the area of stealing his 10,000 ruble compensation. Advisor to the Mayor of Mariupol Petro Andryshchenko additionally claimed that relatives of those mobilized into the forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) are holding a mass protest against mobilization in Donetsk City. While ISW cannot independently verify these claims, such discontent amongst occupation elements suggests a general lack of planning by Russian authorities in occupied areas, now compounded by increasingly evident Russian losses.

ISW RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MAY 16

How embarrassing.




legendary
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The good news for you inhuman scum: you won't need the subtitles.
The bad news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ur7uv9/brutal_honesty_retired_russian_colonel_and/

Face it. Pride doesn't make scum more shiny. Putin's Russia will bite its teeth out on the Ukraine assault. After that, the country will be ruined. Happy North Korea Version 2.0  Tongue
I feel sorry for all the truly good people that didn't make it out of Russia yet, even if they are few. Most others are misled. Like you, poor puppy. Go get a bone...
Wet fantasies about lend-lease and about a million recruits in the tenth wave of mobilization? Freshly. Grin

Why are you still not on the eastern front?

LoL
Nice try, troll. I'm too valuable on another kind of front. Better keep doing what i ecxel at, unlinke drunk RA mobilized civilians of the "eastern front".
I quoted and highlighted this, because with that wording you are admitting, once again, that the "special military operation" is in fact war.

While Putin wanted to fight, UA has to fight. He wants to fight so much, that he's coordinating bataillions himself with his failing general of choice (what was his name already?). He should let the army professionals do their job, but no... This reveals overburdening. Putin is losing not only his mind, but also (t)his war. He should fight on the "political front" to not get Russia completely isolated. Instead he shows his emperor-complex. He went insane. Do you think two years of fear-of-covid self-isolation contributed to his sanity? If so, you're delusional.

EDIT: Just look at him. He's almost finished. Just wait for it.
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The good news for you inhuman scum: you won't need the subtitles.
The bad news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ur7uv9/brutal_honesty_retired_russian_colonel_and/

Face it. Pride doesn't make scum more shiny. Putin's Russia will bite its teeth out on the Ukraine assault. After that, the country will be ruined. Happy North Korea Version 2.0  Tongue
I feel sorry for all the truly good people that didn't make it out of Russia yet, even if they are few. Most others are misled. Like you, poor puppy. Go get a bone...
Wet fantasies about lend-lease and about a million recruits in the tenth wave of mobilization? Freshly. Grin

Why are you still not on the eastern front?
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.

Four healthy Nazis of Azov carried each seriously wounded on a stretcher, no one returned to the bunker. I think now the wounded will receive medical care, the healthy will be interrogated, and only then they will decide what to do with them. They surrendered and their fate is now in the hands of the DNR. The end of the myth about the underground thousand, in short.

Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

The good news for you inhuman scum: you won't need the subtitles.
The bad news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ur7uv9/brutal_honesty_retired_russian_colonel_and/

Face it. Pride doesn't make scum more shiny. Putin's Russia will bite its teeth out on the Ukraine assault. After that, the country will be ruined. Happy North Korea Version 2.0  Tongue
I feel sorry for all the truly good people that didn't make it out of Russia yet, even if they are few. Most others are misled. Like you, poor puppy. Go get a bone...
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.

Four healthy Nazis of Azov carried each seriously wounded on a stretcher, no one returned to the bunker. I think now the wounded will receive medical care, the healthy will be interrogated, and only then they will decide what to do with them. They surrendered and their fate is now in the hands of the DNR. The end of the myth about the underground thousand, in short.

Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.
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It seems that, according to some users here, US army colonel Douglas Macgregor, who talks about a possible takeover of western Ukraine by Poland, is also a Russian propagandist.
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May 10, 2022
Unconfirmed reports from Warsaw indicate that after Washington rejected the proposals for a no-fly zone over Ukraine,
along with the transfer of Polish MIG-29 aircrafts to Ukrainian pilots,
the Polish general staff was quietly instructed to formulate plans for
intervention in the Ukrainian conflict by seizing the western part of Ukraine.
Naturally, military action of this scale would require Kiev’s approval,
but given Washington’s de facto control of the Zelensky government,
approval for Polish military intervention should not be a problem.

Yes, the retired U.S. Army Colonel, author, consultant, and television commentator Douglas Macgregor is a Russian propagandist.  There are tons of Americans spreading Russian propaganda in the American press.  There are about 5,000 colonels on active duty in the US Army at any given time, by the way, and this guy retired from the Military almost 20 years ago.  Come back when someone credible (that means no right wing pundits) brings up the topic.

Have you gone into full on deny everything with nonsense mode and see if anything sticks a little, and then just focus on that and pretend like none of the other nonsense ever happened?
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Or they will break the exchange agreement

Unfortunately that's a very real risk, considering that they're already talking about "interrogation". Clearly Russian side doesn't care about their own (POWs on Ukrainian side) either, otherwise they'd have done this exchange immediately.
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.


Russians desperately need a 'win'. The exchange of wounded Ukrainian servicemen is being presented as
the 'surrender' of the Azov Batallion in the Russian media. You know 'capitulation of Nazis during Stalingrad siege' typo of a deal.
'Azov Nazis surrendered', blah, blah...

Defenders of Mariupol did a great job of tying up 20K+ Russian soldiers for this long.

We'll see if Russia will exchange the 211 Ukrainian fighters transferred to Olenivka for Russian POWs.
Or they will break the exchange agreement and kill them or transfer them to some 'filtration/concentration camp' in the Far East,
torture them, and then kill them.

If I were in the Russian leadership, I would have exchanged all Ukrainian fighters in Mariupol for Russian POWs a long time ago.
And declare a victory. But they are morons, instead, they tied up a quarter of their army resources to fight a couple of thousand fighters,
for almost three months.

The current Russian leaders are typical Soviet leaders, alcoholics who cannot think straight so we cannot expect much from them.
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.
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UK soldiers in Azovstal. EU Gas-for-EUROS lie. Romania Eurovision vote rigged. (Alex Christoforou)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2uIm4CSzas




Bruh... since when do you care for what is possibly the gayest thing in your "Gayrope"?

Or are you trying to shed any doubt about the support that Ukraine has in Europe? You will fail spectacularly.

 Are you aware that there are no refugee camps for Ukrainians in Europe? We are talking millions of people being accepted into private homes - I have never seen people so keen on accepting those who fly war.

Shit happens....
It seems that progress has finally been made with Azovstal. Right now, a silence regime has been declared and an agreement has been reached on the surrender of 650 wounded Azov fighters to the DPR. No extraction, surrender.

Source? ... bah, why do I bother. Is that from the Russian Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales?
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It seems that progress has finally been made with Azovstal. Right now, a silence regime has been declared and an agreement has been reached on the surrender of 650 wounded Azov fighters to the DPR. No extraction, surrender.

They have been swapped with Russian prisoners of war. Great victory for the glorious Russian military, who can't defeat even injured Ukrainians after 3 months of bombing.

Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

Whatever the case, if the Ukrainians had not murdered the Russian POW's and put the eye-stabbings and whatever on social media for the enjoyment of their cretin fan-bois (e.g., you) then they might have more POW's to use as trading stock.

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