Topic: Sanction isn't the right option (Read 2728 times)

While Russian propaganda is inventing new fairy tales for those who do not think much, the Ministry of Finance of the terrorist country begins to whine
"Prospects look terrible" - such is the headline of the report of the Ministry of Finance, in which they reported on the collapse of the oil and gas revenues of the Russian budget

And a little more: The gas war with Europe and the growing problems with oil exports to Asia continue to deprive the Russian budget of resource rent flows.

In August, revenues from oil and gas corporations to the federal treasury decreased for the fourth month in a row and were at the lowest level since June 2021, the Ministry of Finance reported on Friday.

Over the month, the budget collected 671.9 billion rubles of oil and gas taxes - almost 100 billion rubles less than in July, and 23.9 billion rubles less than in August 2021.

Compared to the maximum shown in April, when the budget received 1.797 trillion rubles from oil and gas against the backdrop of soaring prices and taxes last year, fees have collapsed by 2.6 times.

At the same time, oil revenues remained stable, according to data from the Ministry of Finance: despite the fact that China and India reduced purchases of Russian barrels to a minimum since the first month of the war, NPDI fees for oil increased by 40.4 billion rubles, and export duties - by 10 billion (compared to June).

However, the gas part of the budget continued to rapidly deflate along with the production and exports of Gazprom, which in August collapsed by 34% and 59%, respectively.


But as the "greatest world leader" putin said - "the economy is not a rubber ass, a rubber ass is the heads of Russians, which means propaganda is propaganda and again propaganda ... And I will quietly run away with all the money stolen from the Russians!"

Economic sanctions will make things more complicated, many things that the world can do to stop the Russian War, and the social and humanitarian approach is of course the best solution rather than applying economic sanctions that will have a wide and massive bad impact.

Can you estimate how long it will take to build an international pipeline between only two countries that have a common border? Estimates say that Europe had actually sought, during the past decade, to extend a gas pipeline from the State of Qatar through neighboring countries, but of course it failed. In view of the reality of the current sanctions, the media did not report that some European countries have actually begun to ease the sanctions in the hope of obtaining facilities in gas supplies during the winter at least. Winter is coming and Europe's winter is expected to be very cold this year.

And now USA - EU are finding alternatives for oil and gas supply
They are building new pipelines and hydrogen trains to fine the way out.
Now who is in trouble - Russia or EU?
It's good to look through your trouble and do not indulge in others trouble

Sanctions do not work, they are of no use ....
As Putin used to say, "sanctions are not a rubber ass for you!" )))

The humor of the situation is that full-fledged 5 months of sanctions had not yet passed, as a bald-headed terrorist from the Kremlin began to whine, and through his miserable representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, he conveyed the following:

"Peskov: Putin is ready to negotiate with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on how the "special operation" will be terminated and the observance not of the conditions, but of the interests of Russia."

Is this the stage of bargaining or accepting the inevitable? Are there experts?

PS Yes, by the way, about the "rubber ass" and Putin, this is not a fake, it's a reality: From today's speech by Putin to schoolchildren: "Industriousness is generally a separate talent, it's not just, excuse me, a rubber butt." This is an accurate quote 

There is another nuance here. For example, to the same San Marino, it is much easier to influence its economy, it is not so "heavy". On the one hand, the "heavy" economy has some inertia, which we see in the situation with Russia. And small savings have no inertia and the effect of sanctions on them will be reflected more strongly. BUT ! It is much easier for a small economy to raise small amounts (comparatively small) and fix the situation! But such "elephants" as the Russian economy, on the contrary, should miss the moment of economic degradation, and that's it - IRREVERSIBLE processes begin, which are either impossible to stop, or it will cost fabulous investments. Despite the fact that no one will give them, because. SANCTIONS
The Russian economy is generally a "colossus with feet of clay", it cannot work sustainably. There are many reasons: technological backwardness, total dependence on the resource market (Russia's economy is purely resource-oriented and on a global scale - it takes no more than 1.5%!), total dependence of all sectors of the economy, and even oil and gas production, on Western technologies. As of September 1, the sanctions have been working for only about 5 months!!! And the economy is already bursting at the seams, many industries are simply dying, social budgets are simply reset to zero, industrial production is falling, ... The Soviet Union, being more economically powerful compared to Russia, having its own market for selling its products / goods (Warsaw Pact countries), after the imposition of sanctions lasted 10 years! But then it still fell apart! Russia pretends that everything is fine, but in the Kremlin I am hysterically looking for a way out of an already hopeless situation! The last argument is the gas terrorism of their "friends" Germany and France! But... and it will not work.

In my opinion, sanctions works only if someone that impose them have sort of an advantage over sanctioned object. It is a more or less peaceful way to achieve your goal. That is why sanctions against Russia isnt working as expected. But for example against San Marino (no offence, I have randomly chosen it as one of the smallest European countries) similar sanctions will have a destructive effect. Saying that sanctions will have an effect with time is also wrong, because someone big can impose counter sanctions easily.

Sanctions will create new problems, look at the fact that countries receive sanctions, people suffer greatly, many deaths and other difficulties, on the other hand it will make supply from countries affected by sanctions also stop so that it can create an economic recession in the long term.

Sanctioning won't help in any way, if it does truly going to help, by now Russia should be feeling the heat but instead one way or the other they keep surviving it all. At this junction, both sides should just come together to stop the war. The more the war progresses, the more damage is caused.

The thing about sanctions that many disregard these days is:

It is not a tool that is being used to put pressure on the government specifically but it is more of a way to put the pressure on civilians of that country so that they get pissed off about the financial situation that they're in because of all the sanctions and get out of their house and protest against their government, that way the country/countries that impose those sanctions get to weaken that government indirectly without having to pay much of a price themselves, but people that protested against their government and got jailed or killed pay the real price for the change in the government or merely its behavior.

It's unfortunate how this sanction thing actually works when you actually see the other layers other than the top layer of what it does to a country and its people.

There is so much contrast in what the leader says- and what they say.
Life is so unpredictable and these warlord have made the lives more miserable.

Today, the world is so deeply and strongly cooperating between countries that actions on one side of the globe are guaranteed to lead to consequences on the other side. And even more so in cases where the world, having allowed the cultivation of a new Nazi regime, in the form of Kremlin rashiZm, and now everyone feels the negative from this. But if rashiZm is not strangled now, as fascism was strangled in 1945, we will soon get a new 1939 ... Then it will not be problems, but misfortune will come to every second inhabitant of the Earth ...

Sanctions did bring any good to the world. Russia is a strong country and sanctions did not bring any good result.
I was not in favour of section and getting into other war. So its good to think of their own problem rather than indulging into others problem.

I will give you one simple example, from history, not fantasy and not propaganda. Remember there was such a country - the USSR. Far from ideal, but with a fairly self-sufficient (albeit backward) economy, a population, albeit not distant, but ideologically united. A country that was able to create a military-economic union of the Warsaw Pact. So, in 1979, the USSR launched a terrorist war in Afghanistan. And sanctions were imposed against the USSR. Moreover, if you read official sources, you will be surprised that they are noticeably weaker than today's sanctions against Russia. And you know what happened to the USSR? Literally in 10 years? I answer - the country ceased to exist ... The USSR had noticeably more than 10% of the world economy! They had nuclear weapons, the largest army in Europe, and the largest in the world. The country had 50%+ of the world's natural resources, and much more! I saw it all with my own eyes!
And in 2014 Russia starts the same thing. Russia, which has approximately 1.5% in the world economy (For example, this is an indicator of the GDP of Italy, or one state of California or New York )
True, the soft-bodied West decided at first not to impose sanctions, real sanctions that really create problems. Well, they expressed "concern" and forbade "selling bolts longer than 7 meters with a longitudinal thread"
But after February 24, 2022, though really somewhere from March-April, REAL sanctions began to be introduced. And now, after 3 months, the Russian economy has collapsed... In such a situation, Russia will not have 10 years, the fall will happen much faster!

It's not enough to dislike war. Something else needs to be done so that military aggression does not come from one's own country and does not cause harm and suffering to the inhabitants of other states. Passive surveillance turns a person into an accomplice in crime and this should be remembered. And the accomplice must also be held accountable. And since Russia does not even see mass protests against the war, and more than half of its citizens approve of the military invasion of Ukraine and the bombing, as well as the constant shelling of its entire territory, there are no innocents in Russia.

Of course, sanctions alone will not solve the problem of Russian military aggression. But military and other assistance from civilized countries will help the Armed Forces of Ukraine to do this.

the whole EU was after Russia to put sanctions - and see what has happened - their planning went in vein when they all failed.
Nothing worked out by USA and EU and USA is running to Saudi for oil and gas supply. Very funny

As a highly educated person, you cannot fail to know that the idea of the collective responsibility of an entire people resonated with Adolf Hitler.

Those who receive the sanctions are those who are guilty or who are considered guilty without having to harm other parties such as the community. This is not about sanctions for one party or two parties, but sanctions for those who are guilty and entitled to receive them or their actions that harm many people.

Sanctions have never been an effective way to resolve international disputes. The imposition of unilateral sanctions will not only fail to achieve the expected goals of the United States, but will also have a serious impact on the world economy and people's livelihood, leading to inflation. Sanctions are a double-edged sword, and both sides will suffer heavy losses.

We cannot also forget what Russian oligarchs are highly target by these sanctions the western countries are impossing, they are getting their goods seized, for example.
Also, despite of the sanctions it seems that Russian Economy is not doing as bad as I thought it would, the value of their currency is actually holding the pressure and they apparently continue to find new clients for their energy in India and China.

In the short term, Europe are also suffering the effects of these sanctions because they have not been able to replace Russian gas yet...