Topic: Sanction isn't the right option - page 5. (Read 2728 times)

You are right, everyone are solving their own problems. At first, Russia thought that it will be a quick military operation and they will achieve their goals. But they have failed. At first Europe and other Russian "partners" thought that after they impose sanctions, Russia will step back and the war would be over. But that plan has failed. Now everyone around Ukraine act like "we have tried to save you, but that did not help", and now we have our own economy to save and people to protect.

Every time I watch news - I feel the countries don't want to help anyone - they have their own agenda.
US wants to destabilise Russia - but it is not easy. World would not be able to shut its door to Russia and they will do as Russia will demand. You will see counties will pay in Rubal and it will be a game changer.

Due to the fact that the Putin regime in the international arena has brazenly violated everything that could be violated and does not respond to the demands of the world community to stop the aggression against Ukraine, and in addition, the courageous resistance of Ukraine showed the military weakness of Russia, this time the world states decided destroy Russia militarily and economically, providing Ukraine with military, financial and material assistance. Soon we will be able to witness the shameful defeat of Russia in this war.

Over time, sanctions against Russia will only get tougher. For a long time now, Europe has been discussing the sixth package of sanctions, where the main issues will be Europe's refusal of Russian oil and the disconnection of the Russian Sberbank from the SWIFT payment system. This will be followed by the seventh package of sanctions, where Europe will refuse Russian gas. These will not be easy decisions, but Europe goes for it, realizing what a threat Russia poses to the civilized world. If earlier we said that Germany is one of the most energy dependent on Russia, now it is Germany that calls on other European countries to introduce a complete embargo on Russian oil and gas.

In addition, by blocking the free navigation in the Black Sea, including the ports of Ukraine, Russia creates a threat of starvation in the world. Africa may suffer greatly from this, because Ukraine cannot supply its agricultural products to the international market. Therefore, Russia was warned for the last time about the serious consequences of this blocking. After that, in the near future, the US Sixth Fleet is ready to enter the Black Sea from the Mediterranean and ensure the freedom of navigation in this region. The likelihood of a third world war is greatly increased

Sanction is not a good option. All this is done by US to bring Russia down. But of course the world can not shut its trade with Russia. Do you think - any other country can fulfill the oil need of the world? Of course not - and also when Russia will start trading in Ruble it will bring a different dimension to the world.

Reducing industrial production, shutting down factories and plants, inflation, rising food prices, cutting social programs, further impoverishment of the population - of course, the normal situation for Russia, the usual state of affairs, everything is fine in a word
I wonder who at JPMorgan managed to predict the collapse of the Russian economy as early as 2 months after the start of sanctions? You can link to the forecast - I'll read it, I'll definitely add the author to the list of "creative fools of JPMorgan"

Even I would not dare to write such a thing. If you read my assumptions, then this is the end of summer-autumn, the time when the sanctions will begin to really affect the processes in Russia. Just a little observation for the experimental

Some people say, that as intelligence officer, he is able to execute given tasks, but not generate his own tasks properly. He can think of a multi step plan to reach goal, but he can not create this goal by himself.


We, as an "international community" are already feeling negative results from sanctions against Russia. If this is just a beginning, then dark future scares me.
I think there are so many imposed sanctions against Russia, that they have set sort of a record already. Cant imagine what else "not military" can be done to stop this war.

Just now Putin does not know what to do next. Any of his actions already lead to a loss. For him, there were either bad or the worst possible scenarios. But the most important thing is that it pulls down the whole country. He is neither a strategist nor an intellectual. This is an international robber and murderer, impudent from impunity.
The sanctions imposed after his attack on Ukraine cannot give a quick result. The results of their introduction will begin to show up seriously towards the end of the year. The international community no longer has a choice how to punish the aggressor to the detriment of their own economies. Putin has been gratified for too long, and everyone is already convinced that this was the wrong way.

True politics. Plan to do A, say that you will do B, in the end do C. I see that those who impose sanctions, always left some space for maneuvers. Everyone try to get rid of buying gas directly from Russia, and in the same prepare to buy Russian gas from intermediary. With sanctions countries plan to decrease Russian budget funding, but Russia has huge reserves. But that does not matter, as in the end there will be no winner.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

Maybe those people didn't study well on what will be the consequences if they impose sanction on Russia and we see that this will not bring any good result to them and to us since inflation skyrocketed which really hit us badly. If this take more months for sure this could hurt the whole global economy and most provably this will give huge problem to third world countries.

I think there are more better things that they can do to stop the war, not this sanctions. I agree with you that it only makes the situation more worse. Oil price and other goods are now rising. The poor people are the one's that are heavily affected by this.

Why can just other countries unite and join Ukraine to fight Russia? I don't know if Russia won't stop that way. They can do something like kidnap Putin and give threats that if his men wont stop, something bad will happen to him but Putin deserves to be punish him like the way he punish Ukraine and the world. Humanity is more important, for us but for Putin? He doesn't care. What's more important to him is that he can destroy Ukraine.

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

Of course, sanctions are a wrong and even a bad decision, as they allow you to unfairly destroy entire countries. In this case, I mean the use of sanctions as a weapon against a particular country. And here it is important to note that this policy has long been used by Western countries against other countries. As for the application of sanctions against Russia, one interesting thing is worth noting here. The fact is that although sanctions are bad, the use of them against Russia has a slightly different result. Yes, they certainly harm Russia, or rather hinder its development, but they also hit those who introduce them very painfully. To summarize, of course, any sanctions are bad and wrong, and as practice shows, they can hit in the opposite direction at any moment.

The sanctions that have been imposed definitely took Russia some sort of economic damage to their finances. Due to the trade limits imposed, some of the big and huge businesses from across the globe were compelled to leave the country, resulting to a shortage and an inflation to the current supply of products in Russia. Just like what happened in North Korea, such country was isolated, thus most of its citizens are suffering from food shortages and poverty (one big factor is the improper expenditure of North Korea's wealth).

I just hope that this would not seriously prejudice the countries once Russia starts to threat it with its nuclear weapons and bombs. If such thing were to happen, then every country would unite to prevent this chaotic event from happening.

I wanted to write about the fact that sanctions are very useful for Russia, but you beat me to it. Sanctions allow the development of the domestic market for goods, competitiveness between manufacturers arises and the quality of goods increases. There is an impetus to the growth of the country's economy and there is no dependence on foreign supplies. With gas, this option is not suitable. It either exists in the country or it doesn't. All other items can be produced by yourself)

Well, where are the requests or pleas for the lifting of sanctions? The link is simply a statement of the fact that economic sanctions do not achieve their goals for which they were introduced. Crimea is still Russian, the operation in Ukraine is still ongoing, the sanctions have essentially changed nothing. Unless they had to feed pigs with Polish apples after Russian counter-sanctions in the fall of 2014.

I'll tell you more, economic sanctions are of great benefit to Russia. Russia until 2014 was a major importer of food, and then became a major exporter. Now the US and Europe are voluntarily leaving the developed markets with huge losses, and new players are coming in their place.

This is a question for content managers and an engine that converts titles into human-readable links. Unfortunately, now almost all Russian sites show that they are without certificates and do not allow the content to go. But I think if you search for the keywords "Putin laurels are asked to lift sanctions" - you will find materials, articles and videos with speeches. For example, here is a working link https://lenta.ru/news/2017/06/02/enough/

Regarding the fact that I did not answer - perhaps I do not exclude it. I might have missed the post, it happens. I see no problem answering now
My opinion is that sanctions have been imposed against the COUNTRY. Moreover, with a full bouquet of reasons - from the annexation of foreign territories to crimes against civilians and genocide. The country has a ruling regime, a criminal ruling regime. The task is to create economic and technological problems for this country in order to stop its aggression and criminal actions. And yes - the impact of sanctions can have an impact on all the inhabitants of the country. Although I already wrote - about 60% of the Russian population will not feel the sanctions, because. and so they live, by the standards of a normal community - below the poverty level, for them there is no concept of "life will become even worse." It's hard to understand, you just have to go and see how people live in small towns and villages. So in this particular case, I answer your question finally:
1. Yes, sanctions for the entire country, and they could affect all residents of Russia.
2. Due to the extremely low standard of living of a significant part of the population of Russia, the sanctions will really affect only a smaller part of the population of Russia.



Well, what do you want - Russia, they can’t even make a website normally
Above is another link, working, but I advise you to independently study the topic "Moans from Russia with a request to cancel very useful sanctions"

The "fun" of this topic is that in Russia Putin and other "patriots" heroically talk nonsense about "ridiculous sanctions" and "benefit for the economy", but as soon as they find themselves in a normal world, groans immediately begin - well, why sanctions, oh here covid, oh there is diarrhea, oh everyone is suffering, let's take it off and we also really need to take it off, but why am I right away? As always, the classic cognitive dissonance of views and opinions, in Russian ...

"putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran" an English word among Russian transliteration words in Latin. That is odd to write page names like this.

Anyway, DrBeer what is your position considering sanctions. You have quoted some of my posts, but when I answer you, you did not bother answer bank. So far you claim that sanctions is the right decision, and they must affect every Russian. Right?

Lots of empty words and a broken link with a 404 error.

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What do you really not like? I even allow you to write a slander to the bounty manager, and write a libel that I have a firm position regarding a country that violates moral and ethical standards, is the center and sponsor of world terrorism, and is waging a terrorist war in my country, destroying, raping thousands of civilians ! Come on, heroically convey! But the truth and reality will not change from this, even though you call the facts a lie...
Links about the groans of Lavrov and Putin about the need to lift sanctions - look for yourself, strain at least a little, work with information from reality at least a little, it will only benefit. It will be a little more difficult than copy-pasting propaganda nonsense and passing off fantasies as truth.

Offhand - here is a link where the "great helmsman of Muscovy" hides behind covid and begs to lift sanctions
https://rg.ru/2020/03/26/putin-prizval-cancel-sankcii-v-otnoshenii-postradavshih-ot-covid-19-stran.html

PS And a request - if you are used to throwing words into the wind - proof that I am spreading lies?

PS and don't forget to write a complaint to "Sportlotto" out of the soviet habit ))