Topic: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. - page 10. (Read 27098 times)

everyone is now looking for this withdrawal to be confirmed; with that shaky start, if this withdrawal doesnt go through, and the balance problem solved, this site might as well be done. removed negative feedback as well for showing funds, but the < 100 BTC is nowhere near your initial claim.

soemthing weird is happening with the withdrawal. tried to withdraw smaller sums to 1MDNgu9sWL5Rq8fErmjPaS6b1HZnKW2vf5. I was able to withdraw 0.6, but then i tried to withdraw 0.5 and the site said i am withdrawing too often - NO WITHDRAWAL WAS SENT, BUT MY BALANCE DECREASED. pls look into this. my balance now should be 12.28 btc, but it says 11.38.

I would also like to reiterate my request to withdraw 11.5 btc to 1EaNG5BGQBbCBe74Y9WNgUJWNDECkZX11N.

Ive also sent this message from the email ive registered my sawdice account, so there can be no question about my identity (yoloer808 on sawdice is yoloer808 on btctalk)

thanks. im a bit worried that i will not get paid, but we will see i guess

this can be solved simply by allowing the player to change the client seed at any time without changing the serverseed (which he does not see, only the hash is visible)...

Daym, Nice win.. lets see how it goes from now, I hope they pay you up coz its time for them to prove that they have the money to stay for awhile

You change the serverseed after they input their own clientseed. This makes the clientseed useless since you already know it when creating the serverseed. If someone is betting 9900x multiplier and inserts "imtheking" as clientseed, you can simply loop quickly a ton of serverseeds to see which one will make them not hit easily with that client+serverseed combination. I am not saying you are doing this, just that it's a possibility and therefor not the ideal provably fair implementation. Please re-read what I said in the previous reply for more details.

thanks. yeah its insane.

to be honest i just wanted to show support to a new site because i really liked how they've admitted that they messed up, cleaned up their act and then came back.

I was just degen betting, but after those two last bets my balance was just too large, had to stop

at least this will be definitive proof of their solvency.

Well done yoloer nice job so you turned 0.1btc into 11.5btc for roll dice there so you have your lucky day so let us see how withdraw goes as i think they have enough funds into their wallet to process your withdraw request, OP shows an address labeled sawdice cold storage with 99.99btc, good luck OP and congratz to lucky player.

"Cannot withdraw this amount at the moment please try again later or contact the support team."

pls process withdrawal. i requested 11.5 btc to 1EaNG5BGQBbCBe74Y9WNgUJWNDECkZX11N.

I will leave this here for everyone to be able to check if youve sent it.

lol, i wasnt expecting to withdraw anything, but this is just too much to let go

great game, very responsive

We will apply that as soon as possible. but also in our current system the user is not forced to generate a client seed he can click on change and insert a client seed manually which makes him make 100% sure that we do not select the randomized client seed  

Your 0.1 had been credited to your account, now we disabled the deposit and tracking the issue .

I have two confrimations, not showing up in my balance, not showing up in pending deposits. WTF. Fix this now.

Yes i refreshed page, yes i clicked refresh button. ffs

Looks like there is some rounding issue. I made a throwaway account and lost a bet (Bet ID: 141770) of 0.00000500 but the profit is shown as -0.00000501.
It is not a big deal, but you should fix it when you have time.

fuck it, props on the turn around, i'll give you a chance with 0.1btc
tx. 2a3574c71e35607a295f3cd7cc4a61fad953d52f7bd8f330d764012c56877d41

hope i dont regret this

AFAIK to label something on Blockchain.info you must have it in your wallet...but yeah, you should still sign a message with the cold storage.

Curious, though - are you actually holding the 100 BTC in cold storage, or just on Blockchain.info?

Never thought there was going to be any kind of cold storage, but it seems there is and you have shown there is a possibility but that is not 100% yet as you have not signed the message from the address you claim to control. Well done on turning it around and doing what is needed to give you a better chance at breaking a very competitive market with many top dice sites. Good luck..

so it means they technically flaws in provably fair system and that is clear they can easily cheat to players with false generate serverseed as i feel like that, they dont implement the true provably fair system? 

First of all, good that you like to improve your site.

Technically the cold wallet address is not yet proven. You should sign a message with it so others can verify it. It would be rather foolish to give a random address, so I do think it is from you, still would be better.

Besides that, with a 0.5% HE you are risking at 40x kelly with that max payout with a 100 BTC bankroll. Basically a highroller can easily win more than 100 coins and it seems that you cannot pay him out then. That would be obviously bad. IMO you should be offering around 0.25-0.5 BTC max payout dynamically based on the bankroll. Basically: [0.5x or 1x] * [house edge] * [bankroll]. I am not an expert in kelly criterion and/or risk of ruin theory, but pretty sure that is the practical side of it.

The provably fair implementation seems a lot better, but is unfortunately not really good yet. Since I would repeat myself from another thread I will just copy this here:
To give a practical example of how you (as site owner) could cheat: if a player is always betting 2x at high. You could generate a serverseed that has relatively a lot of low numbers based on the clientseed that you already got. Or some players like to bet at 9900x multipliers, you could easily generate a serverseed that doesn't hit that (in first hundred thousand bets.)

I know that might seem silly, but technically it could be possible and it is a reason why the implementation is not yet really good.



Besides that I only had a quick look so not sure if I missed something.

You are right, after we start we realized some mistakes and we was determined to fix them, and we almost got everything together to start over .
thanks for keeping your word.