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Topic: [SCAM ALERT] ***********EMUNIE - CAUTION ADVISED************* - page 10. (Read 31006 times)

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NXT is the future


will reveal some good surprising personal stuff soon,




You're going to reveal yourself?


Stand back ladies


p.s. Not trickery, just a small joke. It wasn't supposed to be believed.

NOT amused with them emu jokes.

no need to stand back...just wait and see at the right time.

You, Visin and Fuz made it personal NOT me.

BTW: administer peoples money isnt a joke guys...

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eid
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will reveal some good surprising personal stuff soon,




You're going to reveal yourself?


Stand back ladies


p.s. Not trickery, just a small joke. It wasn't supposed to be believed.
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NXT is the future
Huh them emu bunch used my username in one of their vids.

apparently they making something personally from it...good,

will reveal some good surprising personal stuff soon, better then OP.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFGgNMYzABg#t=1


disclaimer:

the pinarello used in the video clip for eMunie is set in stage and it is not me.

I have my own opinion about eMunie and the pinarello in the video does not reflect that.

just letting you all know that the eMunie people are not afraid of trickery apparently. That are the people that will play with your money also.

I am not and will never get involved with eMunie.

word for the wise, look out for that kind of people they arent affraid to do anything

the real pinarello
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legendary
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Pecvniate obedivnt omnia.
the guy who is running emunie is clearly a jew, i was going to spend around 5k on emunie but changed my mind very quickly, JEW!!!!!!
eid
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Ladies and Gentlemen..... wear sunscreen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI

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Holding reservations until I get to use it myself. I won't lie that LOOKS pretty freaking good.
Fuserleer seems like a cool dude too. The removal of the IPO is a huge step up to creating trust and transparency as well.
eid
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Moon?
Nothing that I have heard from emunie supporters has led me to believe there is even an ounce of intelligence in that community and I would estimate the average IQ there to hover ~90

Says the guy complaining about ad hominem.

By the way Cossack, nice that you finally figured out that it is spelled hominem and not hominen. Was driving me nuts.
legendary
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nxt and emunie are to shitty scam coins , ill stick with Litecoin.

Haha, okay buddy, Litecoin is the future, so innovative! Dumbass.
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lets just ignore this psycopath troll.  
there's a video of a working beta client anyway. which should shut him up (he said there was no beta and that it was all a sham lol) but he still talks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsvGz5X5OI#t=335
and dan has always been open about his blackhat memebreship or his history and has always welcomed questions in his presentation thread.
everything regarding blackhat was already answered here
http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/36-hi-im-dan/
the OP only intention was to attack DAn for being refused in the beta (no wonder he was refused lol) and collect a bounty from a competing coin (for slandering emunie).
http://i.imgur.com/kyaWMfK.png
lowest of the low.


legendary
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I have asked on eMunie forum, but no answer.

I am trying to figure out how new EMU gets created automatically and how it isn't inflationary.

I searched and searched, but could not find a clear mathematical description other than half the new EMU goes to prior EMU holders and half to hatchers. It seems that this requires all EMU holders to continue purchasing EMU to maintain their existing percentage. I guess if all EMU holders can maintain their prorata share of the hatching distribution, then it wouldn't be inflationary, but I haven't found a clear description on how exactly one controls one prorata share of hatching.

Also, how is the market price determined. There seems to be some mechanism that chooses the equilibrium point that the EMU should trade at. Is this algorithmically determined? It is arbitrary choice?

Sorry if these are silly question answered elsewhere, I just haven't found it after searching for hours.
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He wrote me those scam message and edited it to nonsense after I asked him what this is about...whoever doubts, there IS a working client, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsvGz5X5OI#t=335

I use it since november and can just say: there is way more things to trust in in emunie than most altcoins that are growing here without ANY reputation...if you guys think its a scam, thats fine. Dont invest then and keep throwing your money at all those btc clones. But don't keep Dan off his work, so we can have a REAL 2.0 crypto soon...
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Cossakman, LeoC, CMC, Maet....ad nauseum or whatever you go by under the myriad of pseudonyms you possess.

How is it that less than 4 days ago you sent me a PRIVATE message on the emunie forum whereby you clearly stated your opinion about emunie as being the BEST?

http://i.imgur.com/RZIL9nM.jpg

Were you trying to scam me as well?  How can it be the best AND be a scam?

Signed,
Confused.

He seems to be bipolar.. poor him

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Cossakman, LeoC, CMC, Maet....ad nauseum or whatever you go by under the myriad of pseudonyms you possess.

How is it that less than 4 days ago you sent me a PRIVATE message on the emunie forum whereby you clearly stated your opinion about emunie as being the BEST?

http://i.imgur.com/RZIL9nM.jpg

Were you trying to scam me as well?  How can it be the best AND be a scam?

Signed,
Confused.
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Well, I didn't WANT to join this board as it seems to be growing into a "wild west" type of adventure whereby the amount of disinformation is becoming ever more increasing day-by-day.

More as an fyi, I've done a geolocation map of those that are currently testing the newest version of the beta (2nd new version this morning) and here's the dispersion so you can see roughly how many individuals are involved. http://i.imgur.com/aChywWe.jpg

Regardless, in order to respond to the amount of FUD by propaganda-nistas, here's my "substantive" post so that I can then wait the requisite 4 hours before linking it as my "generic response" to false scam claims.

Original post:
http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1112-when-will-be-start-the-pre-sale/?p=11754

Provided below as reference:
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TL/DR: I really like eMunie. 

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I was invited to the beta test group a few days ago.  I'm currently running several test instances of the user-client and hatcher-client across multiple servers spread out geographically. 

In no way ever have I been requested to contribute financially to the project.  I have, however, done so willingly based upon my initial testing results.

Initial first impression of the client:

This application will most likely be a game-changer.  I have to constantly temper my enthusiasm for how beautifully and elegantly the current beta version operates and thankfully my wife is always there to keep my "feet on the ground."   Wink     Regardless, in its current version I find it to be elegant, simple, easy-to-use and understand.  Those are high bars to leap over in the crypto-currency environment if "we" (the less than 1% of the world involved in the electronic money ecosystem) ever hope to achieve any significant adoption by the masses who don't care for complicated systems.

Fundamentally, my main reasons for why I believe in emunie are based on its economic model since it is founded upon "The Quantity Theory of Money" 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantity_theory_of_money

The basic premise behind this theory is that the "supply" of a currency should equal "demand" for its use and nothing more.   This theory is the ONLY theory that ALL competing economic theorists can generally agree on (read up on Keynesians vs. Monetarists vs. Austrians vs. Milton Friedman).  As such, if you can find ANY theory that all of these guys can agree on as being an accurate representation for how trade and commerce should operate efficiently then you know you've stumbled upon something revolutionary.

However, "ideas" are dime-a-dozen, the real test of an idea is in its "implementation" in a real world environment.  Accordingly, once it has been tried and subsequently fails there are many critics available that will quickly pounce upon the notion that the "theory" itself is flawed.  This is not entirely true.  As someone with a Six-Sigma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma) background for over 15 years + 20 years experience in Supply Chain Management (ie study of supply vs. demand in business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain_management) I would suggest that the fault "might" lie instead upon the technical "implementation" of the theory since the tools to efficiently implement it might not have existed at the time it was implemented.

For the past 5000 years the "implementation" of this theory has been tested countless times to be a successful method of promoting trade and commerce.  However, the failure of each of these "implementations" has NOT been been because of the theory itself, but rather a failure in how best to "control" the supply vs. the demand through the limited tools available at the time.

Prior to the internet, there was really no easy, systematic, or automated method to determine supply vs. demand.  As such, humans were needed to be in control centrally.  This was done by Kings, central planners and, most recently, by central banks through the study and analysis of a whole host of trailing and leading economic indicators.  Unfortunately (by design), this system is flawed in numerous ways since primarily the central body is operating in a "reactionary" environment in that they must constantly be tweaking the supply to match demand based on the latest data available.  When they miscalculate in their analysis we get a predictable set of circumstances that lead to either an inflationary or deflationary environment.  At these extremes we find hysteria and depression since these are the natural outcomes from mismanaging the supply/demand based on imperfect information.

In the world of emunie the above scenario is removed from the hands of a centrally managed group that uses imperfect information to control suppy/demand and is instead autonomously managed by the system itself.  As demand increases so does supply.  As supply increases, it is distributed equally among all users so that the impact of inflation is eliminated (i.e. a rising tide lifts all boats equally).  A rising supply at "just the right level" ensures trade and commerce.  The ability to adjust supply/demand in near real-time across a decentralized network is what sets this system miles above any competing "coin" based solutions.

At this point I've probably waxed on for far too long (as my wife will agree I have a tendency to do) so in closing I'd like to suggest for you to watch the following videos I have seen recently if you have the time (yes, they are a bit long, but worthwhile nonetheless).

While watching each video try to avoid the conspiracy theory conjecture and the "us vs. them" rhetoric that can easily be incited in such an emotionally charged topic as money often leads to.  Instead, try to keep a pragmatic/rational mindset and always continually ask "Why?"  By that, I mean you should keep asking yourself "why" each of these "implementations" has failed.

History of currency:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdSq5H7awi8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ

Comment:  Granted this guy is a promoter of gold/silver, but the history lesson is quite relevant.  Technically, (my view) gold and silver are nothing more than non-technological method for "trying" to control supply/demand in world of imperfect knowledge of supply/demand by pegging it to something that we know is limited.  As stated earlier, previously we didn't know of any other way to manage it (although emunie has found a way).

Note how at around 3 to 4 minutes into it we see "why" it was successful in that it was standard, universal, fairly stable unit of account (price) that  allowed for the coins to be successful.

Biggest Scam in history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
Comment:   This video does a solid job of explaining the current central bank process, but I provide it more so as an example of a flawed "implementation" of the theory to try and control supply/demand based on imperfect information.

Secret of Oz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI

Comment:  This provides a view of an alternative "implementation" based on who should manage supply (government instead of central bank), but never discusses "how" it will be controlled by the government to ensure supply matches demand.  As such, regardless of whether a central bank or the government controls it are meaningless since both would be dependent upon imperfect information and self interests to manage the environment.  However, the video does show several examples for how allowing "supply"  to be adjusted dynamically to meet demand results in the promotion of increased trade and commerce.

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first the trolls say emunie is a scam cos according to them all Dan wanted was to cash in on a public IPO and run off.
now they say it is a scam cos he decides to renounce to the public IPO (and giving up an all the income it could have generated him).
make your minds up trolls!!!
in any case i think he made a mistake to give in to some troll who was possibly paid by a NXT holder to slander emunie
here is the OP troll advertising his slander services in return for NXTs.
http://i.imgur.com/kyaWMfK.png

this "scam" accusation thread is complete troll by one sad individual to make a few coins and get back at dan for refusing him access to the beta  .
he opened this thread as soon as Dan announced on his forums he was taking weekend off/break  (so he couldn't answer promptly).
and btw most of the accusations regarding blackhat and personal life ..Dan had already answered them countless times before!!(in the past 2 weeks at least 3 times)
all is explained on the emunie forums and in other bitcointalk threads . he has been very open about it all.
here you can find Dan answering any questions about his life , including the blackhat stuff etc
http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/36-hi-im-dan/

I hope dan reconsiders but obviously it is disheartening when people call all your efforts and hard work a scam.
i think dan should ignore the trolls.....and shut them up in the only way possible : the release.
once emunie is released and there is indeed a working product which delivers on its promises.....all the accusations will count for nothing. and it will be obvious who the real scammers are.
I still feel he should do a public IPO...otherwise people are gonna complain about limited initial adoption (same story as NXT). and that would be a legitimate complaint.
legendary
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Sounds like a scam and this is the first time I've even heard of eMunie. I've locked up scammers in my previous line of work, and this guy has all the hallmarks of one.

 Cheesy. You've made my day boy Cheesy.
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Sounds more like an excuse to close the sale before it even happens - NXT all over again.
I was looking forward to the presale for a couple of months now, checking the emunie forums everyday. It is kind of disappointing, that a select group of founders and beta testers get to take part in the pre-sale, while others won't.
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Sounds like a scam and this is the first time I've even heard of eMunie. I've locked up scammers in my previous line of work, and this guy has all the hallmarks of one.

So before talking nonsense, do your own research and stop spreading scam accusations without any knowledge to support this FUD
legendary
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Newbie
nxt and emunie are to shitty scam coins , ill stick with Litecoin.

Good idea. I hope u won't change ur mind.
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