Topic: [SCAM ALERT] ***********EMUNIE - CAUTION ADVISED************* - page 12. (Read 31006 times)

Can you tell us if or how long you expect to let emunie appreciate before the programming kicks in to keep it stable? I'm sure you guys are keeping this fairly quiet, but any information on this would probably attract more pre-sales.

Can any Emnunie guy stand up and say yes or no to "Fuserleer" sacmming money before?

I just want to know the truth.

Well if we told you that, we would have to kill ya
just kidding of course, but seriously, yeah we can't tell ya that as thats one of the best parts of eMunie! When source is released though, feel free to grab what you want and run with it, but until then, its going to have to be speculative. Dan may be able to comment on that, and explain it without giving it away.

However, we will welcome all attacks on an eMunie client and how you can show its NOT anonymous, that we will stand behind
(I can barely tell who is who on the network, and I am handling the API calls!)

Could we (community) just have an explanation how it's possible to validate encrypted transactions? If u revealed this piece of code u would get much more credibility and still be protected against copycats.

Edit: Just noticed that u won't show the code. Well, an explanation should be enough.

Haha I understand about the whole encrypted transactions, they are quite complex from what I have seen in the API. Everything is being built as we go and are making changes all the time, to expose different data needed for certain API tasks.

And for the record, we require beta tester level to even download the latest client, and we invite beta testers in waves (unless they make it specifically known that they are going above and beyond to be a helpful member in which we jump them to the head of the line (normally 1 or 2 members every wave gets boosted ahead).

We go through the beta thread where people are CONSTANTLY requesting invites and invite around 50 of them, every like 2 -3 weeks depending on need for testers. I understand that it may seem like we are hiding something, or we are the secret Illuminati conspiring to ruin everyone's lives, but its more that our beta access shoutbox is getting crowded as is, and is a primary way of reporting quick bugs/issues during our testing sessions.

With saying the above, we have though of maybe doing a live beta tester so people can view how it works and such? I am not sure if that would be wanted by the public, but if it is please let us know, and I will arrange something like that to take place.

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consider this an official announcement asking anyone who sees this, to please request a general way to prove ourselves to you. If you all want it genuinely, we will try to show you whatever you need within our reason (ie. source code is still on hold).

NOTE: All attacks/insults/FUD will be ignored, only serious requests will be taken into consideration

Good idea. I'm a little bit tired digging thru decompiled obfuscated binaries, but I have no other options coz:
1. I like eMunie features and would like to buy some coins
2. But Fuserleer didn't answer how eMunie core validates encrypted transactions (anonymity + public ledger combo looks impossible to me)

The above poster deffinitely knows what he is talking about. I have been on BHW since I was like 16, and have learned a ton of things, most which involve spending my own money to market on Facebook/Adwords/Bing/etc. Blackhatworld is an actual okay place, and not the boogieman like the OP thinks.

+1 for the above guy doing his homework like most users should do.

I remember the eMunie beta launch, and exchanged a couple of PMs with the guy though didn't follow it up. I didn't learn enough about eMunie to form an opinion then and haven't now.

That aside, my comment is specifically about your comments regarding the Black Hat World (BHW) forum.

Sounds scary. Please continue.


Your immediate conclusion is that because the forum has a scary name, it must centre around scamming people? Continuing without comment..


You then post a thread in which the guy brags about his Amazon affiliate income. Are you by this point starting to get a sense of the fact that BHW isn't what you thought it was?

Finally you come out with this little gem, my favourite bit.


Now.. BHW is generally frequented by people who practice SEO - across the whole spectrum, from well-known white hat internet marketers, many working for Fortune 500 companies, to hardcore black hats dropping hundreds of thousands of spammy web pages and backlinks across the internet on a daily basis.

The tools of their trade enable content scraping, spinning and auto publishing, but certainly not the botnets and credit card theft that you insinuate with your ill-informed thoughts on BHW.
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A lot of the regulars on BHW are affiliate marketers (like the eMunie guy) looking to improve their income through reselling Amazon products, Payday Loans, Insurance, Gaming etc. To these people, black hat isn't financial cybercrime - its hardcore flouting of Google's webmaster guidelines.
 
As well as those black hat marketers who use web spam techniques to maximum effect, BHW attracts a lot of regular marketing professionals who like to ensure they've got the full picture when it comes to what is known about the known unknown of Google's search algorithm. If you know whats working or not for spammers, who are generally doing the most invasive prodding of the algo, you can know how extreme (or not) to go with your traditional marketing.

Like I said, I don't have an opinion about eMunie (or the rest of your post) at all, but I can't have you spouting rubbish without pulling you up on it.

Reading his posts on blackhatworld it doesn't really sound like he was scamming people, he wrote a bunch of crappy apps and sent out what sounds like spam e-mails to get ad revenue and affiliate commission revenue from retailers.  I mean it's not the nicest sounding way in the world to make money but it's not scamming anybody, at worst he's guilty of being a spammer since it sounds like went around posting links to random forums and websites to try and get traffic.  I don't see how any of this makes eMunie illegitimate though.  The fact that it's closed source is somewhat concerning, but mostly from the viewpoint that there may be critical vulnerabilities that we won't be able to recognize.  I *very briefly* ran a similar business once for two weeks and there was nothing illegitimate about it.  It was hard as hell to get revenue without resorting to spamming-I ended up getting some traffic anyways just by putting links in signatures on forums where I was already very established but I probably would have made a lot more money if I had spammed the hell out of it.  Ended up making about a hundred bucks within a week of launch even without tons of spam before I pulled the plug (had too much other work I had to prioritize) but there was nothing scammy about it at all-I just collected affiliate commissions for convincing people to buy stuff from large retailers.  I'm pretty sure that since I was making a hundred bucks with only a few thousand hits a day and within a week of launch that it'd be perfectly doable to make $1000+ daily if you had a large enough audience.  Nothing about it sounds like a scam, the only thing really to criticize is that spamming is lame but that's about it. 

Lol.. well i think the eMu beta testers have defended eMu enough.

Ok you are right, eMunie is a scam, this coin will fail ok? so now stop spamming everywhere about it, ignore emunie don't invest and come back and cry in half a year when you missed the ride of your life.

are you two in it together or are you the same person?
did someone really pay you the bounty or you trolling for kicks?
http://i.imgur.com/kyaWMfK.png

also hate to break it to  you  but you ain't the only one who can use google lol.
dan used his real name and nickname all along and purposely....anyone could have looked him up at any time...showing he's got nothing to hide unlike you.
what do we know about satoshi/sunny king?....not much.it doesn't matter. all we judge is the technology.
many inventors innovators started out their careers with dubious activities. rigging and maximizing ads revenues ain't no biggie in my eyes.
kim dotcom did it for years (and on top of that hosting copyrighted stuff) and is seen as a hero and respect person in the internet world.
i will judge just the technology....if the coin is technologically better than what we have I'll buy....if it sucks i won't.
and before I invest in a presale i ask to see at least a video of the client in action etc....which i'm sure along with the whitepaper will be avilable during presale.
people with 300+ posts here and with good rep say they have tried the beta....but we must trust 2 newbies out of nowhere who say there isn't one and that it is all a sham? lol
info from people who are using the beta:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/emunie-beta-test-404431
everything indicates that is NOT a scam.

thx 4 update 

Look at the end of the day we could have really had some clarification on eMunie. Instead we get counter claims attacking the integrity of the posters credentials. From now on could we please get some clarification on the points mentioned without slander from either side.

You do well to address cossokaman and Maet and potential conflicts of interest(well not exactly but bitterness maybe). Visin your second link about the NXT post you didn't link the identity to Cossokman or Maet and without it it appears poor play but anyway I digress. I know from my own reading some points/issues which were brought up have been clarified but not all of them.

Could we please just get some clarification of the points mentioned rather than the cossokman/maets personal background?

Furseeler/Dan has not addressed some of these points yet which is a good thing as I think he usually has a lot more professionalism and maturity which I hope would make up for the lack thereof from the current eMunie founding members.

I am waiting for a response to the post I made on the eMunie forum to avoid a repeat of what happened with NXT. It has been several days. Either you have a set time period and/or capitalization limit for investment or you don't. Saying it may be arbitrarily ended without notice at any time by the founder  really means there is neither a set time frame nor cap limit.

from eMunie forum, http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/992-important-information-regarding-public-pre-launch-sale/page-7 :

I'm a beta-tester for eMu and I must say Fuseleer is building great software for it. If this is some kind of scam, he sure is doing alot more work then needed.

I have NXT and have used it's software extensively and if I were to compare software, eMu is far ahead in terms of development.

Just throwing my experience out there.