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legendary
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born once atheist
June 30, 2020, 09:25:57 PM
...... They can achieved perfection thru time but there is something they cannot do, they can't make anything by words and dust only. Only the supreme being can do that. And that is God.

So which magic sky fairy god are you referring to there bud?
There's about a million of them and not one of them has a shred of scientific proof/evidence showing they exist.
All are about as real as the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Still waiting on my buddy BADecker to chime in with his usual canned preaching godswill claptrap to give me a good belly laugh.
And speaking of belly laughs, here's one I had a few years ago in my buddy's other godswill thread.
newbie
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June 30, 2020, 07:28:45 PM
This isn't about religion right? This is your belief and your faith. Many scientist can create so many things that is god like. As an example they can make robots with human abilities an all, and the most intriguing is how they make a sheep from another sheep if you have read about them replicating a sheep. They can achieved perfection thru time but there is something they cannot do, they can't make anything by words and dust only. Only the supreme being can do that. And that is God.
sr. member
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June 30, 2020, 06:51:22 PM
Truthfully, the existence of God is vast topic for argument in our everyday life. But merely looking at nature and functions, the flow chart of nature, universe and all kinds of natural resources. Then I'm be able to be convinced that God exists. But researchers says God lives in human being, an inner force in human. Will still searching although.
legendary
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born once atheist
June 30, 2020, 12:34:29 PM
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Nobody is good enough to receive anything other than punishment from God.

This means that anybody can accept Jesus-salvation and be saved, missing most of the punishment.

What this shows us is that God is not cruel, but loving.

Cool
Well I see you're still busy posting your silly god nonsense. What else is new.
Here ya go dude, have some quotes from folks that actually have a brain and think rationally.
I know it will have zero effect on repairing your sky fairy believing virus you are unfortunately afflicted with but hey,
who knows, you might get a laugh anyway....you're welcome....

Quote from: H L Mencken
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."

"Whenever a reporter is assigned to cover a Methodist conference, he comes home an atheist"

"Say what you like about the Ten Commandments, you must always come back to the pleasant fact that there are only ten of them."

"What is the function that a clergyman performs in the world? Answer: he gets his living by assuring idiots that he can save them from an imaginary hell"

"The essence of science is that it is always willing to abandon a given idea for a better one; the essence of theology is that it holds its truths to be eternal and immutable.
To be sure, theology is always yielding a little to the progress of knowledge, and only a Holy Roller in the mountains of Tennessee would dare to preach today what the popes preached in the thirteenth century."

"The notion that science does not concern itself with first causes -- that it leaves the field to theology or metaphysics, and confines itself to mere effects -- this notion has no support in the plain facts.
If it could, science would explain the origin of life on earth at once -- and there is every reason to believe that it will do so on some not too remote tomorrow.
To argue that gaps in knowledge which will confront the seeker must be filled, not by patient inquiry, but by intuition or revelation, is simply to give ignorance a gratuitous and preposterous dignity."

"The truth is that Christian theology, like every other theology, is not only opposed to the scientific spirit; it is also opposed to all other attempts at rational thinking. Not by accident does Genesis 3 make
 the father of knowledge a serpent -- slimy, sneaking and abominable. Since the earliest days the church, as an organization, has thrown itself violently against every effort to liberate the body and mind of man.
 It has been, at all times and everywhere, the habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad social theories, bad institutions.
 It was, for centuries, an apologist for slavery, as it was the apologist for the divine right of kings."

Quote from: Russell, Bertrand,
(1872-1970) English philosopher/considered the founder of analytic philosophy
"So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence."

Quote from: Twain,  Mark   (Samuel Langhorne Clemens)
(1835-1910) American philosopher/humorist
"There are those who scoff at the school boy, calling him frivolous and shallow. Yet it was the schoolboy who said, "Faith is believing what you know ain't so."

"Most people can't bear to sit in church for an hour on Sundays. How are they supposed to live somewhere very similar to it for eternity?"

"Satan hasn't a single salaried helper; the Opposition employ a million."

"If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian."

"If the cholera or black plague should come to these shores, perhaps the bulk of the nation would pray to be delivered from it, but the rest would put their trust in The Health Board"



legendary
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June 21, 2020, 03:36:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/APzBtbE.jpg

"To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- KJV, Psalm 19:1

Wernher von Braun Was a nazi. God must be pretty cruel if nazi’s love him.

Nobody is good enough to receive anything other than punishment from God.

This means that anybody can accept Jesus-salvation and be saved, missing most of the punishment.

What this shows us is that God is not cruel, but loving.

Cool
copper member
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June 21, 2020, 11:21:18 AM
No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

That's why you need to have faith. Religion is based on having faith. Otherwise you can just "hope" you will live and die.

God doesn't need to prove you anything. He is God. He already sent his son on Earth to be sacrificed.

Let's say you are God of ants. Would you feel you need to prove your existence?! I doubt Smiley

Some people can't seem to admit or believe, that for whatever reason or another, that God truly exist.

I can't blame some people for doing so, because each and every person has their own reservations and story to tell, as to why they don't believe in God at some point in their life.

Nonetheless, I believe that these people are somehow just trying to challenge everyone, including God, to help convince themselves. Deep inside, they simply need some reassurance because they've somehow got frustrated and their faith in God had left them astray.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
June 21, 2020, 11:03:34 AM


"To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- KJV, Psalm 19:1

Wernher von Braun Was a nazi. God must be pretty cruel if nazi’s love him.
legendary
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January 27, 2020, 07:43:50 AM
Romans 1:20: "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse;" https://biblehub.com/romans/1-20.htm.

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legendary
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January 26, 2020, 08:29:14 AM


"To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- KJV, Psalm 19:1
legendary
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January 25, 2020, 12:35:15 PM
No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

That's why you need to have faith. Religion is based on having faith. Otherwise you can just "hope" you will live and die.

God doesn't need to prove you anything. He is God. He already sent his son on Earth to be sacrificed.

Let's say you are God of ants. Would you feel you need to prove your existence?! I doubt Smiley
member
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January 25, 2020, 05:11:48 AM
No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

And they cannot prove that he didn't exist. There is not any scientific proof for neither the two ways.
So, God might have existed or might have not  Grin
sr. member
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January 25, 2020, 04:02:41 AM
Religion is the belief in the very real power And philosophy is the model but scientific interpretation can never explain the idea and presence of God It's just their guess. Science is generally based on modern technology No one can give a real-life explanation and doubt will work for everyone.
newbie
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January 24, 2020, 08:38:17 PM
I think the atheist there sadly wasn't trying to really understand your point, I am in a state of doubt on the question of god existing or not because of the theory that I believe to work better with our current understand in physics, I believe that the mirror universe is the most probable theory of being correct because it can be traced from mathematics perfectly so it can't be disproved by reasoning alone and in that view I don't see how god fits in the picture could you lend me your opinion on the matter?
legendary
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December 11, 2019, 08:30:38 AM
I think this is just a massive Telephone Game. The original story gets ridiculously twisted as the message is passed.

What does that^^ mean?

We look at records from the past - like the Dead Sea Scrolls, up to 2,400 years old - to see that the message has not changed.

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newbie
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December 11, 2019, 02:59:01 AM
I think this is just a massive Telephone Game. The original story gets ridiculously twisted as the message is passed.
legendary
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December 09, 2019, 06:09:30 PM
Religion, the tool that has been used to enslave man for thousands of years.
Do's and Don't to keep man in line, the law govt, Holy book from different religions, promises of freewill that we never have, restrictions in the name of religions, mind control, brain washing, and yet we are still dammed.

Because man is too stupid on his own to realize that he is destroying himself when he doesn't obey the do's and don't's.

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newbie
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December 08, 2019, 10:51:08 PM
Religion, the tool that has been used to enslave man for thousands of years.
Do's and Don't to keep man in line, the law govt, Holy book from different religions, promises of freewill that we never have, restrictions in the name of religions, mind control, brain washing, and yet we are still dammed.
jr. member
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December 08, 2019, 07:23:42 AM
No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

How can you explain Love (absolute, not just to a certain person) by science? How can you prove goodness, honesty, justice and all the good that exists? it just exists.

It is wrong to compare science and esotericism (religion, faith, and everything related to it). They all exist in parallel. The brain - thinks and analyzes, the soul - feels and understands (and this is closer to the truth than in science).

In addition, we must not forget that science cannot prove everything, this is just another way of understanding the world.
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They're tactical
December 08, 2019, 06:34:10 AM
No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

We never proven a single thing to be true with absolute certitude in the whole history of mankind.

Need to be a bit humble with what we think we know Smiley





Said the wisest man of athen.


If by "proof" you mean formal proof, all you can prove is conformity of a statement with a set of axioms, but you can never prove the axioms are true. If you follow liebniz concept of sufficient reason that require To prove something true as Well as that it cannot be otherwise and the solution is the best possible, you can never prove this using a formal proof system, as godel theorem shows.
jr. member
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December 08, 2019, 04:09:46 AM
No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!
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