Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 21. (Read 845654 times)

I don't.  I don't believe there is such a thing.

If anything has a maker, the maker must have a maker as well.  Just following your watchmaker argument.

BTW, how do you know our universe is a machine?  Show me the plans for it.

How do you know that ALL gods have makers? You don't. You operate by universe physics, and can't really determine what physics would be like outside of the universe.

God is outside the universe as well as within it. However, when He made the universe, He was outside of it. Do you have evidence of what things outside the universe are like? Perhaps things out there have always existed... without beginning or end.

And Gods have makers who also have makers, ad infinitum.

I'm sure that nature, God and the universe are one and the same. We can see nature, we can explore the universe - therefore God is everywhere.

Yes ! I can never understand how scientist can be atheist. Those who are nihilists Who think everything is just chaos and dont care ok, but scientists Who believe that mathematics is the language of the universe, Who are seeking logical reasonning and rationalism to explain the universe, then saying it has no purpose or reason , i dont understand. Believing in science to describe the universe with logical reasonning is pretty much the same than saying there is a god.

Go to science. Put cause-and-effect, entropy, and complexity together, and try to get our universe without God.

Bonus: All our machines come from machinery operations in the universe. None of the machines we make is ever made from machinery operations from outside the universe. The universe is a machine. Machines have makers.

Step 1: Go to youtube
Step 2: Search for Zeitgeist
Step 3: Watch the first one (split into 3 sections: Goverment/Religion/Current events
Step 4: Utilise common sense and make your own decisions.

The fact that science exists, and that we, as individual beings, can examine science, is proof that God exists. Where would science come from if not from God. Where would the material of the universe come from if not from God? Where would the empty space that holds the stars, etc., come from if not from God?

Why God? Why not that the things that exist simply have somehow "jumped" into being by themselves? Because of the complexity. Standard scientific understanding says that complexity can only come from something more complex. Entropy shows that this is true. Things only decrease, because entropy permeates all things.

We have no evidence of anything simply jumping into existence... not a shred of evidence. The gigantic complexity of the universe shows that there had to have been a super-intelligence with super-abilities to have put it all together. That is what the definition of "God" is.

God is not some person who rules the world. These are Nature, fundamental laws. each of us has a piece of God, therefore, evidence is not needed here. People make me laugh when they try to prove the existence of God in a scientific way. After all, science is just one of the ways of knowing the world. You can do the same with, for example, esoterics, or anything else.

Yea Dr. Warren Gage also says this in his article for the goodnews. https://www.goodnewsfl.org/is-jesus-god/

There is no scientific proof that God exists, however there are many NDE cases. I would say first what is needed to be researched are NDE's (near death experiences, where people often claim that they have met deceased loved one's & a bright light that they usually describe as God). Google Sam Parnia and read some articles. There is a big research going on and results should be shared publicly in a month or two.

God is so great and complex that there is no way to understand how He exists. He has maintained an open door to salvation for us, by believing what He says without knowing how it works.

No need to proof. God do exist and this is the only truth of this world.
Without god no power is here. even a leaf cannot move without the permision of God

yes! maybe it's God's will to not know on how He's existing.

what if I say 'burj khalifa just exists without anyone making it' of course this looks ridiculous, even small children know if the burj khalifa is there because someone built it / made it

the structure of the human body is more sophisticated and complicated than the burj khalifa

then you think humans just exist without anyone creating them?

There is not any scientific proof that God exists.
However, there are a lot of people who lived at the same era when God was in the earth and they wrote the historical data, or told others about the life of God. Thus, there is proof but not a scientific one.

We really need to find out what God is about. Why? Because we don't really understand death, and certainly not life.

Our progress in our quest for knowledge has shown us one basic thing. That basic thing is that the deeper we go in the quest, and the more knowledge we find, the more we see that we are only scratching the surface of what there is to find out. And the more we find out, the more we realize that our scratching the surface is a much smaller scratch that we had thought previously.

Here is what I mean. If a pool (billiards) player is a super-good player, he might be able to accurately call out the pocket through 5 balls being ticked to get the final ball into the pocket he called. For example, he ticks the Cue ball, which ticks ball 1, which ticks ball 2, which ticks ball 3, which ticks ball 4, which knocks ball 5 into the proper pocket.

Now, think of how God played pool with this universe. God created a whole bunch of Cue balls (electrons, protons, neutrons, photons, multitudes-of-other-particles), and sent them flying so that they would tick each other. And God did it so well that after thousands of years these "ball"s are still "ticking" each other in ways that produce complexity, complex intelligence in people, and all kinds of order in the universe. There is even order in nuclear explosions, in the way all the subatomic particles all hit each other exactly according to the laws of physics.

In other words, if we don't find God, or if He hasn't allowed us a way to find Him, we are truly lost. Why? Because it might take thousands or millions of years to get all the knowledge that it takes to find out what things are all about. And that's only if things keep on going as orderly for us as they have in the past. And besides, experience shows us that in all our knowledge, we haven't really found any ways to extend life to any practical length. After all, the Hunzas and the people of Vilcabamba, Ecuador, live lives on the average longer than we do with all our medicine.

This means that after thousands or millions of years of scientific investigation, countless numbers of people will have died, including you and me.

Well, there is scientific proof that evolution exists haha. God exists in people's minds and their belief.

It is possible that a god could exist