Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 208. (Read 845650 times)

Oh Puddleduck...... you silly sausage.

You claim Newtons third law (cause and effect) upholds your evidence of a god........ however, you fail to answer who made your god?

You have never been able to answer this using the same laws with which you claim proves your own god, but instead apply your own assumptions. That is where you fail.

You sound kinda dense. In what way? Newton's 3rd Law is still a law. Just because there has been a bunch of theory that scientists try to use to destroy Newton's 3rd Law, doesn't mean they have succeeded at all.

Talk about educating one's self, you need to educate yourself that Newton's 3rd law upholds cause and effect, and that cause and effect exists in everything, and that there is not even one example of true randomness because of cause and effect, and that mutations are programmed into the universe because of this, and that there is not even one for-a-fact example of a beneficial mutation.

Regarding the idea of a living cell coming into being by the odds of nature simply falling into place in ways that make life, consider a simple, 200 element/molecule cell. What are the odds that these parts are going to fall into place in just the right way so that they would exist where they would have to exist for the cell to be alive. The odds are tremendously high against... so high that it impossible for it to happen.

But if it happened once, then the parts would have to be kicked into motion in just the right way for the cell to become alive. Another impossibility by the odds.

Even if this happened, the surrounding nature would destroy the life as instantly as the life appeared.

Now, if you want to get away from this idea by saying that evolution doesn't include abiogenesis, great. But, it is more improbable that a living cell, or other forms of life can gain atoms and molecules in the correct places so that they could change, simply by randomness. It simply isn't in the odds according to any probability math that we have that matches nature.

Besides. Even if we were talking about non-abiogenesis evolution, abiogenesis is so extremely impossible that it couldn't happen under any circumstances that we can almost imagine. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 for starters. Then research it, and you will find that I am right.

You have been played, son... you and all the people who think that evolution is possible or real. You've been suckered into an evolution religion. Scientists are getting rich off you jokers by getting grant money to continue experimenting, or by teaching evolution foolishness in universities. And you support it with your taxes.

Unfortunately, he is right.  You are cherry picking your science like you pick your Bible.

You are as stupid as flat Earthers believing in 6000-7000 years old Earth.

There are cultures with more history than your Bible suggest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China

So stop your Entropy nonsense.  You are not impressing anyone.  

You are as stupid as those who wrote the Bible.

you really need to
1. educate yourself beyond your  bubble of pious biblical fairy tale nonsense
2. read up on some real evolutionary science. your above statement shows your complete and utter ignorance of it.
   but no surprise there.
and 3. jeezus dude...take a break from these troll fest threads once in awhile.
          unless that is you don't mind being seen as rather obsessed

Oh, you are just having a bad time in your life. Nobody who writes as intelligently as you do at times, can NOT understand how science proves that God exists. Even scientists are coming more and more to understand God. Relax, and believe God, so that you can be saved, even if it is difficult for you to do.

However, if you are a paid troll, keep up the good work. We wouldn't want you to lose out on any money.

Wrong. Science shows that virtually all of the "old earth" sciences are simply interpretations. These sciences can be interpreted to show a young earth if looked at in other ways. Google "young earth" to see what I mean. One result is https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/the-10-best-evidences-from-science-that-confirm-a-young-earth/.


I am not aware of doing this. However, it is apparent that you use some young, untried, un-thought-out myths to suggest that many unknowns are fact.


You know it in your imagination and belief. Therefore, it is a religion for you until it is proven.


You continually show that you are not quite honest by making false claims about me. I believe that God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life.

Additionally, scientific evaluation of evolution, using probability math, shows that evolution is completely impossible. Cause and effect show that there is no random effect, randomness that would be necessary for mutations to exist as evolution. Irreducible complexity shows that critical stages of the evolution idea are missing, thereby moving evolution into the realm of never being able to be proven.



Thank you for letting me show everyone how you have a different and deficient definition of the word "sane."

The thing you have is a religion. Why? The foundations for it are proving that it is false. The only way it is truth to some slight extent is that you believe in it.

If you continue with your delusion, now that you have been shown that it is a delusion, it will gradually drag you into a position of lunacy.

Of course we are different. I understand science proof. but you don't.

In your case, you would try to ignore God even if you understood the proof of His existence.

Since God is the primary driving force holding the universe in place, you will force yourself out of existence by attempting to ignore Him. I, on the other hand, will rise up to live forever by embracing God.

Big difference between us!

But you do need life and ability to post in this forum. Your body and mind didn't simply jump into being without any cause. Neither did the background of the universe that allowed your body and mind to be built.

If you continue to ignore the Great God Who created everything so that you could have body and mind just like the rest of us, you will ultimately ignore yourself right out of existence.

i couldn't think of anything new to say because its all been said a million times before
so i thought id just regurgitate an old post.
 you know, just like my buddy BADecker does on this thread (and others) twenty-four/seven...
 ie.. repeats the same old pious drivel because he likes the echo chamber.
I'm waiting for the day when he goes to a real science forum and posts his boiler plate
links he regurgitates here on a regular basis. that would be quite funny to see all his "science is religion" bollocks ripped to shreds.
 .....but I'm not holding my breath

anyway...BUMP  (apologies to those who saw the earlier post its copied from)  

So Jesus and Moses were hanging out in heaven, totally bored (what a surprise)
So Jesus says "dude, I'm sick of this shit, lets go downstairs to earth where the real action is and have some fun.
Lets go do miracles!"
Moses with a gleam in his eye, replys "oh I'm there dude! lets do it man, I still have my chops! So, how 'bout we head to the old holy land .?
Maybe even find a talking bush and set it on fire! But I aint wandering in the desert! Its too frikkin hot and these sandels give me blisters."
So... (you always start a good story with "so" these days.  "AND SO" if its religious babble..I mean Bible nonsense)....  
So, Jesus is like "cool bro, how 'bout you grab that big ole staff of yours and you part the Red Sea just for shitz n giggles!?"
So, Moses is like " oh yeah and then you walk across the water and maybe even leap over the big ole chasm I make!
oh,and dont forget to to turn the water into a couple a jugs of wine cuz we're gonna partaaaay brother!! (none of that Riunite shit tho)
"Sounds like a plan my man!" replies the true messiah himself.
AND SO.. they headed down to earth and they arrive at  holy land beach.
AND SO... Moses turns towards the Red Sea and lifts his staff on high  and spreads his arms to the heavens.
AND SO... the angels began to sing and the gentle sea breeze turned into a raging gale, and the waters of the Red Sea were parted.
THEN Moses lowered his arms,
AND with a smug grin on his face, turned back to face Jesus. OK dude your turn, lets see you do your thing!
AND SO... with a flourish of his robes, Jesus steps onto the waters of the Red Sea and begins to stride across without so much as a ripple.
  "Check it out bro! now I'm gonna walk out on water, run and jump over the the giant part in the Red Sea you just made! wooo hooo "
  But to Moses' bewilderment, halfway across the water just as Jesus gets up to leaping speed, with each step taken he slowly starts sinking into
  the water! Moses watches with horror as his buddy,the Saviour, the son of God himself, the true Messiah is now splashing and flailing helplessly in the drink.
  Poor Jesus begins to choke while the waves toss him around like a waterlogged rag doll.
AND SO...Moses,upon seeing his side kick, the almighty Messiah,clearly in trouble, swims out to save him from his watery grave.
AND Moses drags Jesus,using the lifeguard hold, back thru the now un-parted choppy Red Sea  (he had to drop his staff, you see)
AND Moses lays The Savior out on the beach, "Hey Jesus" says an enlightened Moses,as he looked down
    on his buddy on his back with arms outstetched no less,"I got an idea...now you can make a sand Angel!".
AND SO..Jesus flapped his arms and legs in the sand and HE DID make a sand angel!
AND SO..Between gasps and hack- ups of mouthfuls of salt water Jesus splutters
"Moses I'm saved! You SAVED me... Praise the lord!... oh wait... I AM the lord!....damn it bro, what went wrong?"

 Moses slapped a consoling hand on Jesus' shoulder and said,
 "Don't worry about it, dude. Last time you tried it, you didn't have holes in your feet."......

PA DA BOOM PSHHHHH


...."hey, nice sand angel tho!".....





"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."


"All religions have been made by men."

"If I had to choose a religion, the sun as the universal giver of life would be my god."

"How can you have order in a state without religion?  For, when one man is dying of hunger near another who is ill of surfeit, he cannot resign himself to this difference unless there is an authority which declares ´God wills it thus.´  Religion is
 excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

"I am surrounded by priests who repeat incessantly that their kingdom is not of this world, and yet they lay their hands on everything they can get."

Bonaparte, Napoleon ,
French emperor

We don't need to have proof that God doesn't exist, apologist monkey. You have to prove something and you're not proving anything just by bitching around that nobody gives a fuck about your bullshit ideas. There's a reason why nobody even tries to explain it to you: they are not worth a single spit. Fuck off, apologist.

Since you can't understand any proof, you don't have proof that God doesn't exist.

I bet you don't even have proof that you exist.   

However, my hope is way beyond yours. Why? Because you can't even rebut the proof that God exists, and that atheism is a quasi-religion.

Since you have not shown any proof, maybe it is back to the dark ages with you.

I'll miss you whilst you are gone!

Since you can't even see that my proof is proof, no wonder you can't begin to show a step-by-step rebuttal. Back to the dark ages with you, then.

I am having fun Puddleduck. I have you as my furry little friend!

Ironically, you are the one who insults others by calling them out for their supposed mental incapacity. Yes you know you do this as I have pointed it out to you many times.

You still have not shown any proof, so there is nothing to disprove.

To disprove your assumptions, it's a simple case of saying that "I assume you to be a troll, therefore you don't mean what you write".

So, thanks again for adding your support to the fact that God does not exist, even though it is grudging support.

Having fun, yet? 

The fact that you are full of insults without anything to back them up, shows that you are simply another troll.

Still waiting for you to show some step-by-step rebuttal of the proof that God exists.

The fact that you can't, and especially that you can't even seem to try, shows that you are just another troll.

You destabilize your own position by calling the proof no proof at all. But if it weren't proof, you should be able to, at least, make a little start at rebuttal much easier that if you really thought it were proof.

So, thanks again for adding your support to the fact that God exists, even though it is grudging support.

Having fun, yet? 

Dear apologist monkey, you have not provided any proof  and you became as annoying as a catholic priest in an orphanage. Get the fuck out of here before I hitchslap you and your whole cult of cat ass lickers and child molesters. I advice everyone to simply ignore or just insult this dumb monkey until he leaves or at least comes up with some new things instead of trying to repeat the same shit hoping that will make it true.

All I've got say is God exists whether you like it or not.

Puddleduck you have never provided any semblance of proof.

You link to yourself as though that is empirical evidence, yet, your entire proof is based on assumptions.

You have never answered why no-one else uses your links as proof?

Is it because you are full of shit?

Adam and Eve are fictitious characters, there is no exact evidence of their existence. Man evolved from a monkey.