Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 303. (Read 845654 times)

I know, he butchers and tortures the English language repeatedly.  This is basically me experimenting with various approaches to see if he responds differently to any of them.

There's a part of me that likes to believe that 'nobody' who is capable of living on their own is that stupid, and that he knows when he signs off his account that he's dead wrong on so many things, but simply can't admit it because he's already invested so much time and energy trying to cast a certain impression (i.e. that he's super-duper smart and nobody except him understands the awesomeness of his logic...you know, because faith and stuff).

Depends. He can change the definitions around to suit the situation. That way he gives the illusion his arguments have substance.

In his view proof is only when he says something but when someone else provides proof is not proof anymore

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

Ok people can please everyone stop feeding the sky fairies troll so that this thread goes happily into oblivion?

I'm not so sure about this. Churches around here on a Sunday are full up. I know this because they seem to think parking laws don't apply to them, so they park their cars wherever they choose, blocking everyone in.

Also most people I've spoke to believe in a god. Only a small handful believe in religion though, which a different thing altogether. But as I said, the churches are full so it must be still popular.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html


You cant find any more solid proof against Biblical God than that, until you prove God exists with phisical evidences.

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.



This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:


While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.



Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.



You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You have to have lots of faith that God doesn't exist if you believe that way, because the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 proves that He does exist.

That makes absolutly no sense, its called a delusion

You hang onto that thought. If you are going to believe that way, do it with your strength.

All of science looks to the idea of cause and effect. There is a cause for everything. Causes are simply effects of other causes. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 shows how cause and effect helps prove that God exists.

If I say something doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t have a cause.
I say the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, the universe doesn’t have a cause.
Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

Even if 95% of the scientists say that it is fact, they don't really know that it is fact. Why not? Because they base virtually all their findings of everything on the idea that the operations of the universe were always, basically the same as they are today.

The truth is that they don't know that physics laws don't change and haven't been changing throughout time. In fact, if you Google for it, you can find that we see variations in physics constants year by year right now.

In addition, there are many, many variables that could have happened over time that could easily throw any reasons for any distant-past statements off.

The clincher is in the actual papers that the scientists write. Even if they want God to not exist with all their hearts, they still write most of their stuff as theories. Why? Because they can't prove much of anything that isn't sitting right in front of them, so to speak.

One other point. There are many scientists who believe in the existence of God, but only say it quietly, because they would lose their positions in the scientific labs or universities if they let it be known in a big way. This shows that ideas against the existence of God are based in politics and big money.



Why? Several reasons. One is the previous stuff I wrote directly above.

Another is that the scientific evidences don't show anything about the existence of God except that He does exist.

Another is that my evidences at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 can be proven out even by a novice scientist who has even a small ability to use logic.

This makes the thing that you are really saying to be that you don't really care about what the truth is. You are simply going to believe whatever you are going to believe, even if the proof to the opposite jumps right up and bites you in the left eye. Further evidence that you are doing this is that you don't have any explanation evidence that you can spell out like I have spelled mine out.

Sorry, bud. You just ain't got it.

Or except that 95% of scientists say that god does not exist with thousands of proofs of how old is the earth or the evolution theory and many many others.

Why would anyone accept your shitty "evidence" and not accept the other thousands of evidences provided by scientists?

Except that the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 which proves that God exists is being proven by scientists using the scientific method, continuously, on a daily basis, even though they don't express it this way.

Why would anyone think that God doesn't exist since all the evidence of the whole universe proves that He does? The above link shows the proof.

Personally, I'll stick to the evidences at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 that prove God exists.

See the post at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10817578 which proves that the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 really prove that God exists.

BADecker has been brainwashed since he was born.  There is no hope for him.

You could put the proof in front of his face and he will deny it.  His entire existence would become worthless if he admitted the truth.  

He will die ignorant.  We have to accept this.