Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 359. (Read 845809 times)

You tell ME, how anyone can make judgment or discernment through NOT EXPERIENCING?


So you denounce because you "simply have priorities"?  

Why do I need to go to the source? You just told me this answer. Or are you calling yourself a liar, so that I need to go to the source to find out what you are lying about.



Why are you so fearful of stating in simple words just a couple of the basic things that you are all about? Sounds like you don't think very highly of the things that you promote. Or are you just ignorant?



Some people are lazy. Most people simply have priorities. They have to have priorities because there isn't time to do everything. Show us that there is value in the things that you advertise, or nobody will waste his time. Give us a few (2 or 3) basic points or benefits that your writings (or whatever they are) have, which are valuable enough for us that we should read them.

You want us to read? What value is there in it for us? In fact, what value is there in it for you? Is your family being held hostage, that if you don't answer something in these forums your family dies? Your stuff is from God because you say so? Give me a break. You don't know enough about your own stuff that you can even offer us a couple of points about it.

If you were asking this question because you wanted to know the answer, I might answer you. However, since you seem to know all about it, you either know who gave Him the name Jesus, or you know that you could find out.

I'm not interested in playing that game with you.

Those points are easily revised like so:

1. You denounced my truth, but you did not read my truth. How ignorant is that?
2. You denounced my Christ, but you do not know my Christ. How ignorant is that?

I believe in TRUTH (opposite of ignorance).
Your beliefs are based on ignorance and denouncing your brother?

There you go.

Make believe points that are really questions to me rather than points about your beliefs.

Is that you don't know what you believe?

Hi BADecker, the purpose of the Journals is stated in the first few pages of each and every Journal.
About the author and the mission

I deny ever reading that in the writings. Still, you should always go to the source. I suggest that you might endeavor to learn photoreading if you find the volume of writings overwhelming.

God wants Truth to spread, but I will not distribute this material on an ad-hoc basis.

I am happy to quote from Journals, but why do you need me to re-state something when all the knowledge is already on the web? Did you really need me to summarize the above quotation and make those two points? I think you could have deduced those points for yourself.


I would prefer not to argue or re-hash what is written. Like I said, you can deduce the points from the writings themselves since they are always clear, explicit, and literal.

His name was Immanuel, which means 'God is with us.'

So who gave him the name 'Jesus'?

Hey BADecker, here are the two points that you wanted, straight from the Journals! I may add some more, but these are pretty good; I will summarize the points above like so:

1. You denounced my truth, but did you read my truth?
2. You denounced my Christ, but do you know my Christ?

@Blakjag:

I probably shouldn't do this but, can you give us at least a couple of the main points of your religion or books, or main reasons for their existence? I mean, like I have said in the past, the reasons for the Bible are basically, in simplistic form:
1. Salvation of souls for the afterlife;
2. Directions and instructions for living a better life here.

Regarding #1 above: It seems that all people die. There don't seem to be any coming forward and saying that they are 500-years-old. At least not with any evidence to back it up. I haven't even seen it. Salvation of souls for the afterlife has to do with saving people's personal identities - their souls - so that they can be reunited with their bodies in the resurrection of all people at the last day.

Regarding #2 above: The Bible gives instructions for living a good life here. It is filled with many examples of how God favors people who follow the instructions. It gives many examples of how God is against those people who don't follow the instructions, even though He patiently puts up with them, often for a long time. In addition, it shows how difficult it is to live a life that follows the instructions entirely.

Do you maybe have a couple points that you can list like that, regarding  your religious writings? Or if your writings have instructed you not to make points from their content, might you at least tell us that much? Or is that what you have been doing by not giving us any solid points? And your writings not only tell you to NOT restate any points, but also that you may not even state that you are not supposed to restate point?

If you have stated points already, please restate a couple of them is simlistic style like I have stated #1 and #2 above. Even LaudaM who is generally at odds with the things that I say, seems to want some simple points listed, in this quote:

I didn't know this either, apparently he did. Although I'm pretty sure that they didn't travel to anywhere, but yeah you should believe the nonsense of what people have written down.  

 has jesus travelled in british isles??

I'm finally starting to understand your deceptions a little.

Jesus was never His name while He was alive, for the same reason that He never said "I, Jesus, am the Son of God." He didn't use modern English. Even in His travels to the British Isles, He never used modern English. Why not? Because it hadn't been invented yet back then.

Get off it, will you?

None of those points relate to what I posted. To start with:

Are you going to explain what your source called "the known teachings of Jesus" and how such teachings are different from what I understand as "the teachings of Jesus", which you have called "heresy"?

Do you realize that Christ never said "I, Jesus, am the Son of God"?
That is because "Jesus" was never his name while he was alive.

Well, it was trouble. I had to log in to do it.

http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

The Bible is the most real? Then you should have no problem responding to this post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9916356

You are mistaken about the O.T., and about God.

We don't need religion. Yet we DO need an understanding of what religion is.

True religion is groupings of beliefs, often based on things that are perceived as truth.

The Bible and God, on the other hand, are not religion, simply because they are the most real of all realities.

Yes. In areas of the world, man started such a thing as slavery, and then man stopped it. Slavery was not God's idea. He condoned it so that He could work with both, masters and slaves, so that He might save some for eternal life.

Slavery has been formally abolished by all the major nations of the world. Yet it is still practiced in many places. Much of Northwestern Africa condones it even though it is against their formal laws. Slavery is so imbedded in the slave classes of African people, that many groups of slaves have no idea what freedom means. You can't offer them freedom, because they don't understand what that means.

Slavery is of man, not God. God's plan is salvation in the afterlife, where all will be free.