Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 361. (Read 845569 times)

Why are all three women called "Mary"? Is that not a clue?!

Indeed, the Bible is not what many want it to be.

Why not read God's WORD as published in the Phoenix Journals?

You gain truth by evaluation of that which is offered--in full, for yourself.

You can only know information if you read it or get it for yourself,
else it is someone else's opinion or perception.

Jumping in here after a month or two.

The first four commandments are about putting God in His proper place and in doing so, a person should then feel compelled to carry out the rest of the commandments out of love for God and then because of understanding who God is, choosing to love others because of that.  In today's society there is a belief that we can just choose to love others and skip the first part.  But the question of where does our conscience or even knowledge of right and wrong come from?  I believe that our conscience is the Holy Spirit speaking to us.  We have a voice that tells us what is right and wrong and it is God speaking to us.  Many religions have these same sets of laws in them and morality can have a common thread throughout religion and cultures, but where does that common morality originate? 

As for the main purpose of the commandments, Galatians 5:14 says:  For the whole law can be summed up in this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."   In reality I believe sin is anything that hurts others.  If a person truly loves others he will not be sinning in doing so.  If we just stop focusing on what the "rules" are and start having love and compassion for others we would all be doing what God wills for us.  However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.

As I've explained many times in this thread,  unicorns or flying spaghetti monsters are invalid rebuttals against the existence of monotheistic gods because they are instead characterized like polytheistic gods.

There is no amount of empirical evidence that could prove or disprove a monotheistic god, and so debating whether God exists in an empirical context is a flawed approach.

"The earliest versions of Mark stop at 16:8. It’s an awkward ending, with three women who have gone to the tomb where Jesus was laid after the Crucifixion encountering a man who tells them to let the disciples know that the resurrected Jesus will see them in Galilee. The women flee the tomb, and 'neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.’

In early copies of the original Greek writings, that’s it. The 12 verses that follow in modern Bibles—Jesus appearing to Mary Magdalene and the Disciples and then ascending to Heaven—are not there."

Surely there must be some sort of debate or refutation of this fact somewhere? I cannot believe that the central tenet of Christianity - the resurrection of Jesus - was just tacked on by scribes later, that this is known to scholars, and has gone unremarked upon until Newsweek came along...

I thought this was an enjoyable article, but I would hate to introduce it to a discussion when the truth is not nearly so clear-cut as is presented. I'll have to do some more research. Does anyone have anything relevant?

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/thats-not-what-bible-says-294018.html

BADecker, that is not Christian behavior.
When will you take responsibility for the things you have said in this very thread?


Some Bible teachings to keep in mind:

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.   

Why does BADecker say that my God is the devil...
when he does not know anything about my God?


Does BADecker supply us with any evidence?
Only if you intend to limit God and God's WORD like BADecker is doing...

Now remember,
To denounce out of ignorance is called "hate".

Actually, in the Ten Commandments, the more important ones are listed first. God holds everything in place... life and everything else. Those of us who value our lives should acknowledge God and His patience with us. After all, He has absolute control, no matter what we think about the ways that He uses the control He has.

Of the ten, only five, half, are actually good for late bing a better let me: don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't bear false witness against your neighbor, and don't covet. The one about honoring your mother and father are dubious, since people should be honored for what they do, not what they are (what if your father is a violent alcoholic, and your parents generally neglect you?)

What about things like don't rape, don't force people into slavery, don't commit fraud or lie, don't hit people, don't destroy other's property, or even just help others who need it if you're able? Seems like a lot of waste using up the first 4 of those commandments for just vain stuff.

There's the Ten Commandments for starters. They are first written in the book of Exodus, in the O.T. Following them are other rules that make a lot of sense where they apply to us in life.

So... What are they?

Pretty sure you're being overconfident with some of these guys.

If you click on the handle (username) of a commenter in the upper left corner of one of his posts, you will be taken to a page with stats about that commenter. When you scroll to the bottom of that page, you will find two or three links. Click the link "Show the last posts of this person" to see the comments that person has posted. Perhaps you will find enough info that you won't find the need to comment. Or, you might find that your appetite is whetted so that you want to respond to something in the past posts of a commenter.

Anyway, welcome.

I would join in this but always end up to deep into religious discussions I like to observe though people do fascinate me

This is your logical point, BADecker? I think you are the only one who sees any logic in this; to me, it seems like it is full of assumptions.

Where is it that you offered a logical point? I must have missed it.

Since you, Blakjag would rather twist words that offer some logical points, everyone can see that you are insincere. No use continuing.

Hello,

I perceive that you have uttered a contradiction.

You are denouncing my truth, but where is your reason? You have no rational basis.

You never bothered to compare my truth with the other truths you are familiar with.

It is OK if you have priorities, but to denounce without investigating is the height of ignorance; in fact, that is exactly how one named Emmanuel was killed.

You are just being incredibly silly now, BADecker.

If you truly knew that which you speak or present,
you would not be afraid of new information.