... I sincerely doubt that you will expose God as a fraud or fiction.
C'mon, guy. Stop doubting. Believe.
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... I sincerely doubt that you will expose God as a fraud or fiction.
C'mon, guy. Stop doubting. Believe.
I just can't fathom why a benevolent god would put belief in him/herself as the most important factor into being "on the Heaven list". Why would they even care about such a silly unimportant thing like that?
The doctrine of "faith not works" comes from Saul (Paul) who was a Hebrew Pharisee practicing Judaism to his death. He was never a follower of Christ.
Came across this hilarious gif on imgur titled 'How Christianity works'. 
http://imgur.com/gallery/VGEhYaz
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http://imgur.com/gallery/VGEhYaz
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What is interesting is that this can almost be accurate.
However, a person doesn't simply jump from one religious belief to another in two seconds. But, if a person in such a position had been thinking about such a change for a period of weeks or months, so that he was on the edge of changing faith, something like this could happen.
God wants people to be saved for eternal life. Many folks who have led a really bad life, yet were Christian as a child, or had some friend trying to convert them at present, if they are suddenly dying like from being shot, they just might convert the rest of the way and be saved, even though they only lived 5 or 10 minutes after their conversion.
It doesn't seem fair. Some atheist lives his whole life as a good person, has a good spouse, good kids, contributes to community charities, helps fund Red Cross in Africa, yet doesn't believe in God, dies and goes to Hell. Some other joker who has been bad all his life, has a deathbed conversion and repentance, dies and goes to Heaven. Doesn't seem fair. But happens reasonably often.
There is rejoicing among the angels of God over every sinner who repents. Come on, you atheists. Repent while there still is time.
Wow. So I take it you believe it's fair? Have you actually thought it through, or do you just believe it's fair because your book tells you that it's fair?
So the serial killer and rapist converts just before getting the death sentence, all his sins are forgiven if he truly believes, and he is allowed into Heaven? The kind, charitable atheist who gave his life to save a bus full of christian schoolchildren, is thrown into the lake of fire and sentenced to eternal suffering?
This is one aspect of some religions I find extremely hard to grasp: If I were a god, I would certainly include some sort of "extenuating circumstances", such as "OK, this guy didn't believe in me, but he's pretty generous, kind and shit, so let's let him in".
I just can't fathom why a benevolent god would put belief in him/herself as the most important factor into being "on the Heaven list". Why would they even care about such a silly unimportant thing like that?
Faith doesn't need proof, and you cannot prove it since he is created in the minds of humans.
Listen to "First Christians" here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
Nowadays Christians (e.g. BADecker) denounce Hatonn as Satanic.
However, Christ's name was not Jesus until long after his "death". How many know this??
The early Christian messages were not a uniform creed.
These tapes also talk about Stephen, so they are worth listening to.
Most important of all is that Blakjag is a science fiction ideas plagiarist.
You don't care about history and you ignore reality at your peril. I sincerely doubt that you will expose God as a fraud or fiction.
I don't doubt it. I compare it with what the Bible says, and then I know. Doubt doesn't have anything to do with it.
Where have you compared the WORD with the Bible in order to determine that God's WORD is a heresy?
I thought your argument was that all writings outside of Revelations are heresies?
I probably won't answer a lot of things that you have to say.
I will never play games with the truth, nor will I accuse one of some thing before giving one a chance to defend oneself.
"Comparison" has nothing to do with it; you have not made any explicit comparison whatsoever, you just go "by the book".
I also have very important things to do, namely: Real study of literal truth.
God's Hosts state that God's people should never be without something to do of great purpose.
Listen to "First Christians" here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
Nowadays Christians (e.g. BADecker) denounce Hatonn as Satanic.
However, Christ's name was not Jesus until long after his "death". How many know this??
The early Christian messages were not a uniform creed.
These tapes also talk about Stephen, so they are worth listening to.
Most important of all is that Blakjag is a science fiction ideas plagiarist.
Listen to "First Christians" here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
Nowadays Christians (e.g. BADecker) denounce Hatonn as Satanic.
However, Christ's name was not Jesus until long after his "death". How many know this??
The early Christian messages were not a uniform creed.
These tapes also talk about Stephen, so they are worth listening to.
How do you know this for a fact? Any evidence at all?
... exactly how many angels fit on the head of a pin.
All of them, and none of them, and any number of them in between all and none, and all of this at the same time or any variety of different times, or any variety of different and same times, etc.
How do you know this for a fact? Any evidence at all?
Said without a hint of irony.
Observing Xtians arguing over who has the 'true' interpretation of Xtianity is like watching a dispute over exactly how many angels fit on the head of a pin.
Some other joker who has been bad all his life dies and goes to Heaven. Doesn't seem fair. But happens reasonably often.
How do you know this for a fact? Any evidence at all?
In the Bible N.T. (Acts of the Apostles), immediately before the stoning of Stephen, Stephen said that he saw God (right then, in a vision), and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. The Pharisees and their fellow Jews, who were already upset with Stephen, covered their ears so that they wouldn't hear any more that Stephen might say. Then they took him out and stoned him to death.
Perhaps if you looked at and read some of my posts in this thread, you wouldn't have to repeatedly ask the same or similar questions, Blakjag.
It IS kinda fun watching you stumble around, though.
Stumble through what? Gnosis is at least as valid as mainstream Christianity. You are stumbling through your version of history without any context.
I suggest you learn about the history of Jesus as suggested by mainstream scholarship.
Nag Hammadi suggests Christian Gnosticism has an equal claim to authentic Christian belief.
Listen to "First Christians" here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
Some other joker who has been bad all his life dies and goes to Heaven. Doesn't seem fair. But happens reasonably often.
How do you know this for a fact? Any evidence at all?
In the Bible N.T. (Acts of the Apostles), immediately before the stoning of Stephen, Stephen said that he saw God (right then, in a vision), and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. The Pharisees and their fellow Jews, who were already upset with Stephen, covered their ears so that they wouldn't hear any more that Stephen might say. Then they took him out and stoned him to death.
Perhaps if you looked at and read some of my posts in this thread, you wouldn't have to repeatedly ask the same or similar questions, Blakjag.
It IS kinda fun watching you stumble around, though.
Some other joker who has been bad all his life dies and goes to Heaven. Doesn't seem fair. But happens reasonably often.
How do you know this for a fact? Any evidence at all?
How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?
For the vast majority of non-Christians here, knowledge does not come from a single book.
God says "read it ALL and judge in wisdom".
Now in order to become impeccable in your integrity, one must BE responsible by listening to Spirit within about "right" and "wrong"--or as I prefer to call it balanced or unbalanced--thinking and behavior.
Came across this hilarious gif on imgur titled 'How Christianity works'.
http://imgur.com/gallery/VGEhYaz
image
http://imgur.com/gallery/VGEhYaz
image
What is interesting is that this can almost be accurate.
However, a person doesn't simply jump from one religious belief to another in two seconds. But, if a person in such a position had been thinking about such a change for a period of weeks or months, so that he was on the edge of changing faith, something like this could happen.
God wants people to be saved for eternal life. Many folks who have led a really bad life, yet were Christian as a child, or had some friend trying to convert them at present, if they are suddenly dying like from being shot, they just might convert the rest of the way and be saved, even though they only lived 5 or 10 minutes after their conversion.
It doesn't seem fair. Some atheist lives his whole life as a good person, has a good spouse, good kids, contributes to community charities, helps fund Red Cross in Africa, yet doesn't believe in God, dies and goes to Hell. Some other joker who has been bad all his life, has a deathbed conversion and repentance, dies and goes to Heaven. Doesn't seem fair. But happens reasonably often.
There is rejoicing among the angels of God over every sinner who repents. Come on, you atheists. Repent while there still is time.
How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?
For the vast majority of non-Christians here, knowledge does not come from a single book.
For the vast majority of Christians who know how to read (and even most who don't), it's the same.
How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?
For the vast majority of non-Christians here, knowledge does not come from a single book.
Came across this hilarious gif on imgur titled 'How Christianity works'.
http://imgur.com/gallery/VGEhYaz
http://imgur.com/gallery/VGEhYaz
How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?
We have a different understanding of what the Word of God is. I say it is the effective application of the Bible. You say it is something else.
Okay, we have a disagreement.
I have shown in previous posts that the Bible is an impossible to exist book. I have briefly shown the reasons why. Since it exists supernaturally, it is the Word of God, and is enough for me for salvation and for righteous living.
I hope that you are finding happiness and joy in your book.
They don't have any clue how things got to this point of complexity.
Neither do you, BADecker, have any clue that truth could be found outside of your Bible.
That realization is simply too complex for you to fathom.
3. God's WORD is spoken by God and recorded by God's scribe. Bible is written and re-written by men.
8. How exactly will you find the whole truth in mainstream books like the Bible? Most of that book is written by a Pharisee. Don't forget that SATAN is ruler of this world, and obviously his message has spread far and wide.
8. How exactly will you find the whole truth in mainstream books like the Bible? Most of that book is written by a Pharisee. Don't forget that SATAN is ruler of this world, and obviously his message has spread far and wide.
It is only by 'integrating' such diverse bodies of knowledge that the vision of a unity of truth is gained.
God says "read it ALL and discern in wisdom of knowledge".
How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?
God has no mysticism nor hidden agenda—God is open and the only “mystery” is that which you simply do not yet understand—that too, He gives unto you openly and freely.
God always enjoins you to study ALL that you have basis for recognizing Truth and GIVE YOUR POWER TO NO MAN NOR ENTITY FOR GOD DWELLS WITHIN THE TEMPLE WHICH IS YOU.
If you know not history, then you are destined to repeat the errors.
God never limits your investigation into all facets of the Truth—does your “minister”?
Scientists are attempting to find the whole truth of everything. They will never be able to. The universe is too complex. Man was never meant to know the whole truth. At least not in this life.
The Bible is the record of the things that count. These are salvation for the next life, and the methods to live a reasonable life in this life.
People all over the place look for and find knowledge that is not in the Bible. There is nothing wrong with this. However, if the seeking and finding of that knowledge takes away from their salvation, it is not good. There are some people who seek knowledge and the whole truth with such determination that it ultimately blocks them from salvation.
Not only does God dwell within people, holding them alive, but He also has an identity of His own that is outside of people. You and I might be in each others minds somewhat through our posts here, but we certainly are not the same person.
They don't have any clue how things got to this point of complexity.
Neither do you, BADecker, have any clue that truth could be found outside of your Bible.
That realization is simply too complex for you to fathom.
3. God's WORD is spoken by God and recorded by God's scribe. Bible is written and re-written by men.
8. How exactly will you find the whole truth in mainstream books like the Bible? Most of that book is written by a Pharisee. Don't forget that SATAN is ruler of this world, and obviously his message has spread far and wide.
8. How exactly will you find the whole truth in mainstream books like the Bible? Most of that book is written by a Pharisee. Don't forget that SATAN is ruler of this world, and obviously his message has spread far and wide.
It is only by 'integrating' such diverse bodies of knowledge that the vision of a unity of truth is gained.
God says "read it ALL and discern in wisdom of knowledge".
How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?
God has no mysticism nor hidden agenda—God is open and the only “mystery” is that which you simply do not yet understand—that too, He gives unto you openly and freely.
God always enjoins you to study ALL that you have basis for recognizing Truth and GIVE YOUR POWER TO NO MAN NOR ENTITY FOR GOD DWELLS WITHIN THE TEMPLE WHICH IS YOU.
If you know not history, then you are destined to repeat the errors.
God never limits your investigation into all facets of the Truth—does your “minister”?
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