This hypothesis has been evolving as more has been learned.
There is lots of room to grow the Survival Hypothesis and relate it to spiritually mature teachings and teachers; this approaches a "theory" of TRUTH, but not GOD.
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There is lots of room to grow the Survival Hypothesis and relate it to spiritually mature teachings and teachers; this approaches a "theory" of TRUTH, but not GOD.
It's a flawed approach specifically because it is unsound to support a theory of something which is defined as being beyond the scope of empiricism with empirical evidence.
In any case, we have empirical evidence which is suggestive of reincarnation, a hypothesis (theory?) NOT beyond the scope of empiricism, and this evidence supports the theory of rebirth proposed by various authors, including Hatonn.
For example, "The objective phenomena of ITC is either ignored, or explained with the usual suspects of fraud, delusion or mundane causes."
This hypothesis has been evolving as more has been learned.
The Trans-survival Hypothesis is a theoretical model based on the Survival Hypothesis typically referred to in discussions related to mind-body theory. As an elaboration on the simpler model with accommodations for lessons learned from the study of transcommunication, it is proposed as an update.
In this model, the expression of intention of a personality is limited by how well the personality understands the nature of reality (sometimes referred to as spiritual maturity). The bounding or limiting effect of understanding on expression is referred to as perceptual agreement. Personality and avatar entanglement acts as a transformer providing etheric-physical energetic agreement.
it is clear that the reader must do the work by studying the references. A quick reading without taking time to understand the references and assumptions, or while insisting that the work adhere to the reader's accepted wisdom, will almost always leave the reader wondering what it is all about. You have to do the work.
The hypothesis is comprehensive, and is at least a good draft for further work; however, it will never evolve if academic barriers are not let down and serious collaboration begun.
In this model, the expression of intention of a personality is limited by how well the personality understands the nature of reality (sometimes referred to as spiritual maturity). The bounding or limiting effect of understanding on expression is referred to as perceptual agreement. Personality and avatar entanglement acts as a transformer providing etheric-physical energetic agreement.
it is clear that the reader must do the work by studying the references. A quick reading without taking time to understand the references and assumptions, or while insisting that the work adhere to the reader's accepted wisdom, will almost always leave the reader wondering what it is all about. You have to do the work.
The hypothesis is comprehensive, and is at least a good draft for further work; however, it will never evolve if academic barriers are not let down and serious collaboration begun.
You know, I strongly believe there is a superior creature upon us, that we can call God.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.
Then what would you call that which governs both "another plane dimensional/time/technology" (uh, what?) and God/alien/"superior creature" residing within it?
I think you should look at what you said more carefully as it's riddled with problems. You're describing something like a polytheistic god.
It is only problematic because of human perception of limitation. FanEagle could be describing God Aton:
I come by way of Hatonn planet in training with Earth Humans (because that is your reflected 'sister' galaxy--no more and no less). I COME FROM THE REALMS OF THE LIGHTED EXISTENCE OF GOD--and THAT is not some planet anywhere definable in your vocabularies or dimensional expression. However, I needed, and still need, some recognizable form of IDENTIFICATION which you can recognize--and I USE IT.
You know, I strongly believe there is a superior creature upon us, that we can call God.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.
Then what would you call that which governs both "another plane dimensional/time/technology" (uh, what?) and God/alien/"superior creature" residing within it?
I think you should look at what you said more carefully as it's riddled with problems. You're describing something like a polytheistic god.
debating whether God exists in an empirical context is a flawed approach.
It is a flawed approach because God has no limitations.
God's WORD is very real and
I suspect that is a better topic for debate/discussion.
No, it's not a flawed approach "because God has no limitations." You are incorrect here because. while you are making the presumption that God both exists and has "no limitations," you are not treating it as a presumption, but rather as a given.
It's a flawed approach specifically because it is unsound to support a theory of something which is defined as being beyond the scope of empiricism with empirical evidence.
I don't intend it as a simple "Space man" I intend it as another force, maybe not human shaped, or well, maybe something more than Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
Descriptions of Space Brothers in the Journals can be found here under these headings:ETHERIA/ETHERIANS
SPACE PEOPLE AND SPIRIT PEOPLE
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_05.pdf
The etheric state in which we dwell is one of many on an ascending evolutionary scale to which we all belong--you too!
I don't intend it as a simple "Space man" I intend it as another force, maybe not human shaped, or well, maybe something more than Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
Space Man is nothing new. The Phoenix Journals strongly suggest this possibility.
http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/gch.html
The same to you as Saint Paul said to Elymas the sorcerer:
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You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?
Christ said that those who follow the doctrine of a Pharisee are twice the child of hell as a Pharisee, and Paul was always a Pharisee and never was a follower of Christ.
Before you accuse me of deceit, why don't you check out what is in your own eye?
The Doctrine of Saul is not the same as the Doctrine of Christ, as I have shown by referencing mainstream historical study on this topic.
First Christians audio is found here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/1992_meetings.html
You know, I strongly believe there is a superior creature upon us, that we can call God.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.
The problem for us is the religious people refers him as father but most of the time to resolve the problems, since everyone goes once or more in their life to ask to their dad to solve a problem because it's wiser than them.
I believe this God is an alien, no matter how you wanna put it, it's like that.
First is because it's extra-terrestrial, second because I think he/she lives in another plane dimensional/time/techology, and surely there is a better wifi there.
They have no strength. But they look somewhat right on the outside.
They don't have the depth, scope and wisdom of the Bible.
They bring about salvation for no-one, but attempt to turn people away from the only salvation that exists.
They aren't foolishness except in the broad sense of their existence.
And they are full of lies.
They don't have the depth, scope and wisdom of the Bible.
They bring about salvation for no-one, but attempt to turn people away from the only salvation that exists.
They aren't foolishness except in the broad sense of their existence.
And they are full of lies.
Sorry to say but the only one lying here is you because:
you have no idea what is in my book
because you have never quoted from it;
so how would you know that it is full of lies?
You are trying to mislead by omitting vital information,
like the fact that you are NOT capable of exposing anything in the Journals as a lie
(because you refuse to quote from them).
You did not object to the TRUTH posted here;
you have no rational basis for calling it a lie.
YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW THAT OF WHICH YOU SPEAK.
Can you not forgive them, too, in a Christian truth and have compassion for their fall---or do you sit in judgment of ALL?
If you denounce all who project the words of your Bible and the ones who effort at correcting misconceptions---who is left? Let me be one of the first, perhaps, to tell you----Satan dear one.
"Expose" me as a fraud? I sincerely doubt that you shall expose me for anything for I suggest that you would not make the effort required to either research facts or make announcement.
If you denounce all who project the words of your Bible and the ones who effort at correcting misconceptions---who is left? Let me be one of the first, perhaps, to tell you----Satan dear one.
"Expose" me as a fraud? I sincerely doubt that you shall expose me for anything for I suggest that you would not make the effort required to either research facts or make announcement.
We how do we take "responsibility" for breaking God's laws? The only way to do that is through repentance.
How about just ignore them?
LOOK AT YOUR WORLD AND CHECK IT OUT. ARE YOU INTO CHAOS AND TROUBLE OR ARE YOU IN THE MIDST OF HARMONY AND BALANCE IN GODLY TRUTH?
Maybe your way and "wisdom" didn't work? So what gives you right to pounce and pound on MINE?
Maybe your way and "wisdom" didn't work? So what gives you right to pounce and pound on MINE?
A much smaller problem, but still a problem - because it leads people astray - is your writings that you follow. They have no strength. But they look somewhat right on the outside. They don't have the depth, scope and wisdom of the Bible. They bring about salvation for no-one, but attempt to turn people away from the only salvation that exists. They aren't foolishness except in the broad sense of their existence. And they are full of lies.
The reason they exist is to draw people away from the only salvation for eternal life that exists... salvation by believing in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. Their secondary goals is to make money or some other kind of value for their proponents, off people, by drawing followers after them, followers who will donate to their foolish and stupid cause.
The same to you as Saint Paul said to Elymas the sorcerer:
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You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?
We how do we take "responsibility" for breaking God's laws? The only way to do that is through repentance.
How about just ignore them?
LOOK AT YOUR WORLD AND CHECK IT OUT. ARE YOU INTO CHAOS AND TROUBLE OR ARE YOU IN THE MIDST OF HARMONY AND BALANCE IN GODLY TRUTH?
Maybe your way and "wisdom" didn't work? So what gives you right to pounce and pound on MINE?
Maybe your way and "wisdom" didn't work? So what gives you right to pounce and pound on MINE?
Hi BitChick,
Suppose that you drop a ceramic plate on the ground and it shatters into pieces. You say "I am sorry" to the plate; however, the plate is not put back together again--it is still in pieces.
"I am sorry" is what comes to mind for me when I think of repentance.
Suppose that you drop a ceramic plate on the ground and it shatters into pieces. You say "I am sorry" to the plate; however, the plate is not put back together again--it is still in pieces.
"I am sorry" is what comes to mind for me when I think of repentance.
If we just stop focusing on what the "rules" are and start having love and compassion for others we would all be doing what God wills for us.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
The most important thing is responsibility, not repentance.
We how do we take "responsibility" for breaking God's laws? The only way to do that is through repentance.
I think you will have a hard time proving that without supplying some definitions.
If we just stop focusing on what the "rules" are and start having love and compassion for others we would all be doing what God wills for us.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
The most important thing is responsibility, not repentance.
We how do we take "responsibility" for breaking God's laws? The only way to do that is through repentance.
How about just ignore them? The god in your mind has no power in the real world.
If we just stop focusing on what the "rules" are and start having love and compassion for others we would all be doing what God wills for us.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
The most important thing is responsibility, not repentance.
We how do we take "responsibility" for breaking God's laws? The only way to do that is through repentance.
If we just stop focusing on what the "rules" are and start having love and compassion for others we would all be doing what God wills for us.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
However, we get stuck on a list of "do's and don'ts" when they are just there to open our eyes to the fact we all have fallen short of God's law in one way or another
and need to humbly come to Him in repentance for that.
The most important thing is responsibility, not repentance.
debating whether God exists in an empirical context is a flawed approach.
It is a flawed approach because God has no limitations.
God's WORD is very real and
I suspect that is a better topic for debate/discussion.
IS HATONN REAL?
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF THAT WHICH I OFFER IS VALID TRUTH?
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF THAT WHICH I OFFER IS VALID TRUTH?
genuinely this post stirred so much...
I read posts that
angered
humoured
upset
confused
and just made me go what the hell..
That i guess sums up a good discussion
I read posts that
angered
humoured
upset
confused
and just made me go what the hell..
That i guess sums up a good discussion Jump to: