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Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 438. (Read 845809 times)

legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:44:09 PM
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:36:58 PM
Ever wonder why an Almighty would need "your help" for something?
Well... ALL of the known Gods do. That alone is the biggest flaw of them all.

He doesn't "need" anything. He allows us to live and act as a gift, to us!   Cheesy

I mean, you give gifts to your gerbils, don't you?
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October 09, 2014, 08:35:37 PM
Ever wonder why an Almighty would need "your help" for something?
Well... ALL of the known Gods do. That alone is the biggest flaw of them all.

There's so many different ways to think about that.

Their gods could be wanting humanity's "help" through prayer etc, as a way to unify people, or provide strict moral guidelines...+100 more.

legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:34:54 PM
Ever wonder why an Almighty would need "your help" for something?
Well... ALL of the known Gods do. That alone is the biggest flaw of them all.

What if We're all just playin' around just 'cause?
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
Ever wonder why an Almighty would need "your help" for something?
Well... ALL of the known Gods do. That alone is the biggest flaw of them all.
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October 09, 2014, 08:30:58 PM
people are full of flaws).

So are the God(s) described on known religions, making them nothing but human imagination.

Of course, maybe none of the God(s) are flawed, and the only flaws lie in the people who think They are flawed.

 Cheesy

True too.
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
people are full of flaws).

So are the God(s) described on known religions, making them nothing but human imagination.

Of course, maybe none of the God(s) are flawed, and the only flaws lie in the people who think They are flawed.

 Cheesy
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October 09, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
people are full of flaws).

So are the God(s) described on known religions, making them nothing but human imagination.

True.
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:27:37 PM
If god does exist, it cannot be defined.

My wife does not exist, but I can still define her as someone would be married to me. 

If that goofy little picture at the left of your posts is anything like what you are like, I can't imagine anyone else wanting her.

 Cheesy
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 08:14:30 PM
people are full of flaws).

So are the God(s) described on known religions, making them nothing but human imagination.
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October 09, 2014, 08:00:43 PM
If god does exist, it cannot be defined.

My wife does not exist, but I can still define her as someone would be married to me.  

Does your nonexistent wife have complete control over every single aspect imaginable(and not imaginable) in this universe(outside as well) and infinitely more?

A truly almighty being cannot be defined...Words like omnipotent, omniscient,omnipresent contradict one another(After all, they're just words with definitions, made by humans(us), just because a word means something doesn't mean the meaning is correct, people are full of flaws).

http://www.skeptic.ca/Impossibility_Arguments_for_God.htm
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October 09, 2014, 07:55:53 PM
If god does exist, it cannot be defined.

My wife does not exist, but I can still define her as someone would be married to me. 
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October 09, 2014, 07:47:41 PM
I think everyone is looking at this too stupidly. If god does exist, it cannot be defined. Maybe every single one of us "has god inside of us" or something similar, but we don't know.

You cant prove it doesn't exist, ever(It is impossible to prove that god does not exist, for obvious reasons). However, you can prove it does exist(If it were to present itself clearly thats proof), and I think that in itself is a reason for its existence.
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October 09, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.

If belief in a literal everything is justified, then so too is god(s)?
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Terminated.
October 09, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
To sum up 85 pages:
There is not scientific proof.
There are only 2000 year old books which could have been written by anyone who was high.
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God doesn't exist.
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 06:39:45 PM
Let me put this straight, a thing to be a thing has to have the characteristics of the thing.
If you have a small animal that barfs, you wouldn't call it a cat. If you have a small bush you wouldn't call it a tree. Same goes for God. Something to be God has to meet the "Godly requirements".

Yeah well that's the problem... as no "god" has been caught in the wild yet, nobody knows what it's characteristics (and thus requirements) are... back to square zero Undecided

Of course, since there isn't any pure random, but only cause and effect, action and reaction, there isn't really any wild.

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October 09, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
An easy one is to be "Almighty". If it isn't Almighty it isn't a God.

Fair enough... Case closed!
legendary
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October 09, 2014, 03:27:22 PM
An easy one is to be "Almighty". If it isn't Almighty it isn't a God.
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October 09, 2014, 03:22:26 PM
Let me put this straight, a thing to be a thing has to have the characteristics of the thing.
If you have a small animal that barfs, you wouldn't call it a cat. If you have a small bush you wouldn't call it a tree. Same goes for God. Something to be God has to meet the "Godly requirements".

Yeah well that's the problem... as no "god" has been caught in the wild yet, nobody knows what it's characteristics (and thus requirements) are... back to square zero Undecided
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Knowledge could but approximate existence.
October 09, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Since it could not, prior Lemakasidian entropism, be conclusively demonstrated that anything existed beyond one's own mind, scientific evidence was accepted by faith and, therefore, was not proof.

However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.


These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.
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