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October 06, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
Instead of that former, answer that following: What makes "death" significant?

The absolute most significant thing about death is, death locks one into his belief position regarding God. If one believes in God for salvation at the time of death, he will receive salvation. If he does not believe in God for salvation, he will lose salvation.

Other than that, there are many things that make death significant. Some of them hold significance for relatives of the deceased. Why do you ask this?

Smiley
Fear of being afraid is that sole sustenance of death.
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October 06, 2014, 11:43:35 PM
Instead of that former, answer that following: What makes "death" significant?

The absolute most significant thing about death is, death locks one into his belief position regarding God. If one believes in God for salvation at the time of death, he will receive salvation. If he does not believe in God for salvation, he will lose salvation.

Other than that, there are many things that make death significant. Some of them hold significance for relatives of the deceased. Why do you ask this?

Smiley
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October 06, 2014, 11:42:02 PM
All we have guaranteed is this life

You are saying that there is no guarantee of an afterlife. How do you know that?

You can have what you want, if you will only go after it.

If you don’t give up, your success is inevitable.

“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ― Henry Ford
By honor, proceed about reply within that name "BADecker."
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October 06, 2014, 11:39:53 PM
All we have guaranteed is this life

You are saying that there is no guarantee of an afterlife. How do you know that?

You can have what you want, if you will only go after it.

If you don’t give up, your success is inevitable.

“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ― Henry Ford
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October 06, 2014, 11:36:34 PM

That following:

What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley
Your question assumes it's reasonable to make considerations in accordance with an inevitability of death. As the original question posed, how is that reasonable? Why is it reasonable to make a consideration for its relation to death? What matter is that, death, that one would proceed unto any consideration about it?

(Your implied concern is characteristic of "dust." [Your avoidance of explicit provision of backing evidences that yet more.])

I don't know for sure which question you are asking. In addition, it seems like you are using an online translator to convert your language to English before you post it. What I mean is, the questions are not of a form that I understand clearly. If you can state the question in common American English, I might make a stab at answering. It might be simply my fault that I don't understand, but the fact is, I don't understand.

Please restate the question.

Smiley
That Imperial English was Americanized.

Is "That Imperial English was Americanized" the question? If it is, I don't understand what answer you are looking for. If it isn't, please restate the question, because I don't understand what the question is.

Smiley
Instead of that former, answer that following: "What makes 'death' significant?"
legendary
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October 06, 2014, 11:33:42 PM

That following:

What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley
Your question assumes it's reasonable to make considerations in accordance with an inevitability of death. As the original question posed, how is that reasonable? Why is it reasonable to make a consideration for its relation to death? What matter is that, death, that one would proceed unto any consideration about it?

(Your implied concern is characteristic of "dust." [Your avoidance of explicit provision of backing evidences that yet more.])

I don't know for sure which question you are asking. In addition, it seems like you are using an online translator to convert your language to English before you post it. What I mean is, the questions are not of a form that I understand clearly. If you can state the question in common American English, I might make a stab at answering. It might be simply my fault that I don't understand, but the fact is, I don't understand.

Please restate the question.

Smiley
That Imperial English was Americanized.

Is "That Imperial English was Americanized" the question? If it is, I don't understand what answer you are looking for. If it isn't, please restate the question, because I don't understand what the question is.

Smiley
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October 06, 2014, 11:30:50 PM

That following:

What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley
Your question assumes it's reasonable to make considerations in accordance with an inevitability of death. As the original question posed, how is that reasonable? Why is it reasonable to make a consideration for its relation to death? What matter is that, death, that one would proceed unto any consideration about it?

(Your implied concern is characteristic of "dust." [Your avoidance of explicit provision of backing evidences that yet more.])

I don't know for sure which question you are asking. In addition, it seems like you are using an online translator to convert your language to English before you post it. What I mean is, the questions are not of a form that I understand clearly. If you can state the question in common American English, I might make a stab at answering. It might be simply my fault that I don't understand, but the fact is, I don't understand.

Please restate the question.

Smiley
That Imperial English was Americanized.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
October 06, 2014, 11:28:14 PM

That following:

What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley
Your question assumes it's reasonable to make considerations in accordance with an inevitability of death. As the original question posed, how is that reasonable? Why is it reasonable to make a consideration for its relation to death? What matter is that, death, that one would proceed unto any consideration about it?

(Your implied concern is characteristic of "dust." [Your avoidance of explicit provision of backing evidences that yet more.])

I don't know for sure which question you are asking. In addition, it seems like you are using an online translator to convert your language to English before you post it. What I mean is, the questions are not of a form that I understand clearly. If you can state the question in common American English, I might make a stab at answering. It might be simply my fault that I don't understand, but the fact is, I don't understand.

Please restate the question.

Smiley
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October 06, 2014, 11:23:24 PM

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley

I don't profess to know anything, you do. I'm agnostic remember. Wink

My best guess at the moment is that our conscious mind is a beneficial tool for survival and propogation of our genome. That in itself to me is beautiful and poetic and gives meaning to my life, that I am merely a small link in a much bigger chain and we are all connected from an information perspective. The religious books are all written quite tyranically, as if the reason for their writing was to cause man to fear one another.

To me "emergence" has much more poetic beauty than "creation", plans and blueprints, so linear and synthetic. And then who created the creator etc etc.

Of course if evidence were presented to me that would suggest otherwise then I would be quick to change my opinion, I keep an open mind. For example we all might get a popup window in our vision tomorrow saying "you are in a simulation", if that happend then it's something one would just have to deal with.
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October 06, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley
I asked you a direct question earlier, and you still have not answered it.

Who are you talking to?  Smiley
Whomever posts as "BADecker."

What was the question? I miss or ignore some sometimes.  Smiley

That following:

What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley
Your question assumes it's reasonable to make considerations in accordance with an inevitability of death. As the original question posed, how is that reasonable? Why is it reasonable to make a consideration for its relation to death? What matter is that, death, that one would proceed unto any consideration about it?

(Your implied concern is characteristic of "dust." [Your avoidance of explicit provision of backing evidences that yet more.])
legendary
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October 06, 2014, 11:13:47 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley
I asked you a direct question earlier, and you still have not answered it.

Who are you talking to?  Smiley
Whomever posts as "BADecker."

What was the question? I miss or ignore some sometimes.  Smiley
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Activity: 378
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October 06, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley
I asked you a direct question earlier, and you still have not answered it.

Who are you talking to?  Smiley
Whomever posts as "BADecker."
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
October 06, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley
I asked you a direct question earlier, and you still have not answered it.

Who are you talking to?  Smiley
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Activity: 378
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October 06, 2014, 11:00:33 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley
I asked you a direct question earlier, and you still have not answered it.
legendary
Activity: 3990
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October 06, 2014, 10:58:57 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).

How do you know that their souls have not just been implanted from God, into their bodies, any time all the way back to conception? Implanting, not formation.

Smiley
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Activity: 238
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October 06, 2014, 10:54:16 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley

That's one thing I know for sure, having watched my children being born with my own two eyes.

Souls are  forming as we speak, and those pure little nippers, you say they are lost. I say they see the clearest the moment they are born in a pure feral state, from that point on it's alot of nonsense, language, books and other such nonsense. But it can be fun (if you choose the right books).
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
October 06, 2014, 10:48:50 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?


That's a guess, isn't it, that souls will be formed in the future?

I contend that all the souls have been formed, and that the reason that God has not moved this creation into Heaven long ago is, if He had, there wouldn't have been time for the souls to live and believe in Him. Most would be lost. So, this life is for giving the souls that have been created a chance to be saved.

Smiley
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Activity: 238
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October 06, 2014, 10:41:28 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?

Many souls will be formed in the future, better than us, let go, everything's ok.

But still keep being the nice person you are  Smiley, you don't need a book for that do you? you feel it inside without needing a rule book, you feel empathy right?

I wouldn't call death "annihilationism" not if you have kids, we are an expression of our DNA which is very old with much learning in it.
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October 06, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?
You do not gnash when burning unto nothing?

(My other question has gone unanswered.)
legendary
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October 06, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
What matter is torture? What matter is death?

Concern proving evident within your post are those of beast and man and, therefore, are hailed of nothing exceeding them.

Or as Solomon said, "Everything is meaningless."

After all, we die, and we haven't seen anyone come back to real life without re-dying sometime in the near future after he became alive again. The exception, of course, is Jesus, who arose from the dead within the 3 days after death, and then, 40 days later, ascended into Heaven, alive.

So, what is the benefit of writing anything or doing anything in life? We lose it all anyway, at death, right?

Smiley

But death matters because death is not the end and if the Bible is true (and I believe it to be based on many things proving it to be so) the end result of not seriously considering the consequences of death could be eternal torture.  In reality I believe that nothing matters more than considering our eternal souls.  

eternity...? you too greedy! let the children eat.
Indeed, they fail to consider annihilationism and other such theorizations.

There are just too many warnings in the Bible to support annihilationism.  Repeatedly in the Bible Jesus says that those that do not accept Him will be thrown into the blazing fire and that there will be the gnashing of teeth.  Does this sound like human's souls just cease to exist?
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