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September 15, 2014, 05:41:43 PM
I did provide some evidence for "Personalities continue to exist after physical death".

You could at least critique what I linked you to; I am happy to discuss the Eisenbeiss case and others. I happen to be a trained hypnotist, but not sure how this relates.

Also, I am not clear on how this relates; could you clarify:

"Ah, the snake that eats itself.. now when it eats itself, does it ask, I wonder if I'll be reborn"?
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September 15, 2014, 05:36:54 PM
it will never be proved or disproved, even it doesnt exist

As long as we are here, we may as well discuss the details of related topics; who knows, maybe somebody will learn something!

Of course there is no scientific proof of any god.  But it won't stop them from spreading their BS.   Undecided
As long as we are here, we may as well discuss the details of related topics.

Personalities continue to exist after physical death; I provided you with the scientific evidence.

Can science provide a theory which would by itself account for the content of the Seth material?
Can science provide a theory which would by itself account for the content of the AECES top 40?


There may yet be higher sciences that man is not presently aware of.

"Nothing is more likely to impede investigation than premature acceptance of 'explanations'"


They should look at the existing evidence and evaluate it for themselves, and not wish it away.

Personalities continue to exist after physical death; see for yourself!  Grin

http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Problem_of_Seths_Origin.pdf

OK, so maybe the evidence is of a phenomenological form; still, it is provocative and weighty.

Totally agree with your first point, I mean, we have to find the proof from the evidence at hand, wether it is online or not.

With regards to the seth material, I'd like to volunteer to any trained hypnotist in order to go back to my younger days and explain some amazing dreams. As for personalities existing after death, nope, once the brain starts to die, we move to our pineal gland, and then are set free by the fingers of life (death)

Ah, the snake that eats itself.. now when it eats itself, does it ask, I wonder if I'll be reborn?
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September 15, 2014, 05:28:38 PM
it will never be proved or disproved, even it doesnt exist

As long as we are here, we may as well discuss the details of related topics; who knows, maybe somebody will learn something!

Of course there is no scientific proof of any god.  But it won't stop them from spreading their BS.   Undecided
As long as we are here, we may as well discuss the details of related topics.

Personalities continue to exist after physical death; I provided you with the scientific evidence.

Can science provide a theory which would by itself account for the content of the Seth material?
Can science provide a theory which would by itself account for the content of the AECES top 40?


There may yet be higher sciences that man is not presently aware of.

"Nothing is more likely to impede investigation than premature acceptance of 'explanations'"


They should look at the existing evidence and evaluate it for themselves, and not wish it away.

Personalities continue to exist after physical death; see for yourself!  Grin

http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Problem_of_Seths_Origin.pdf

OK, so maybe the evidence is of a phenomenological form; still, it is provocative and weighty.
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September 15, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
This was my point:

Man's distortions do not qualify as definitions...

God defines himself in Exodus when the burning bush speaks to Moses.

What does God actually mean by that?

With luck, you can find a path or religion that explains it in detail.

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September 15, 2014, 05:14:15 PM
I had a brainstorming idea!!

What is the frequency of God? As in, I have a very old 50's valve operated audio signal generator (for sale, brand new in box lol) and wanna hear his voice. Anyone?
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September 15, 2014, 05:09:41 PM
it will never be proved or disproved, even it doesnt exist

Um, someone thousands of years ago had proof until it was destroyed in the game of chinese whispers..
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September 15, 2014, 05:08:38 PM
What about thinking for yourself and asking the right questions?

Is it not funny to you that God would define himself and then man ignores that definition?

I think it is a big hint for man.

Maybe I've missed the boat somewhere, please, enlighten me, what is his - oops, my bad, 'the bibles' definition of this creator?

Sure, it is in Exodus 3:14 (LINK)

Links are no good, if you have a point, lemme hear it from you!!

Edit: So, God is: I AM.

Well, test time:

I have seen the image of the alpha/omega in my younger days' dreams. It is like everything fit's in the pinhole, as is described in the 'eye of the needle' allegory. It is like, at one point I was smaller than a grain of sand, then expanded in my universe, my time in that universe expired, and I was expelled from that into this world. Kinda like being born, only the vision was not only real, it occured over and over.. if god is the alpha and omega, I can draw the image. Best way to draw it would be to draw a picture of a tear. The top of the tear is the smallest space in existance, and everything without this point is sucked in like a black hole.. but the feeling.. wow.. if that's god, I know of bigger.
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September 15, 2014, 05:06:58 PM
it will never be proved or disproved, even it doesnt exist
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September 15, 2014, 05:06:15 PM
What about thinking for yourself and asking the right questions?

Is it not funny to you that God would define himself and then man ignores that definition?

I think it is a big hint for man.

Maybe I've missed the boat somewhere, please, enlighten me, what is his - oops, my bad, 'the bibles' definition of this creator?

Sure, it is in Exodus 3:14 (LINK)
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September 15, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
What about thinking for yourself and asking the right questions?

Is it not funny to you that God would define himself and then man ignores that definition?

I think it is a big hint for man.

Maybe I've missed the boat somewhere, please, enlighten me, what is his - oops, my bad, 'the bibles' definition of this creator?

Edit: If I was on this planet to serve mysef, I'd ask the questions you suppose one doing so, should ask Wink
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September 15, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
What about thinking for yourself and asking the right questions?

Is it not funny to you that God would define himself and then man ignores that definition?

I think it is a big hint for man.
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September 15, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
As you are human you will only discuss human (your) definitions of god.
Unless you're Jesus' brother/god's child/god's brother/whatever.

All living beings are God's children.

Ask yourself why people do not inquire about God's definition of God as given by God in Exodus. What exactly does God mean by that definition? And why does man not refer back to it?

Now why would people who know better than to read the bible know what your on about?

So god 'gave birth' to us?

What next?

Exodus? Good auld Uncle Bob, fancy a spliff? Yah man!!

From now on, am gona stop providing the so called 'scientific' theoretic proof,, and just rip the shit ooty bible bashers.. a mean, c'mon, the bible didnt invent god, it's the LAST book to sell the idea of diety.. that anyone noticed, and that was only because we (the majority) had it rammed down our throats (like english) since the day we were born, or started school. At school was the first time I was told to pray before food, when I asked why, they said god is the provider, to which I replied, na m8, ma mother paid for my school meals.. wether god provided or not, it is YOU that should thank OUR parents for putting money in YOUR pockets instead of their own kids. Needless to say, prayer at my school was stopped from that day.


Edit: What about todays exodus? Immigrants roaming through every country tryin to get to.. ?

Why is god not parting the sea for them now?

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September 15, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
As you are human you will only discuss human (your) definitions of god.
Unless you're Jesus' brother/god's child/god's brother/whatever.

All living beings are God's children.

Ask yourself why people do not inquire about God's definition of God as given by God in Exodus. What exactly does God mean by that definition? And why does man not refer back to it?
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September 15, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
Lol.. sound.. as a scratch dj with over 35 yrs on the decks I can say this.. not many people know that if you record the sound of running water, and playback the recording + or - the origional pitch, the sound of the running water stays the same, you cant slow it down OR speed it up, it 'flows' at the same speed it always does Wink

This was common science training in high school decades ago. So, what's the reason for this? It's easy. Let me say that it works the same for the various liquids. And it is the same for solids. Yet, there is a difference from liquid to liquid, like water and oil.

So, why?

Smiley

Because you cant stop running water.. Edit: sorry, that should be the 'flow'..
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September 15, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
Lol.. sound.. as a scratch dj with over 35 yrs on the decks I can say this.. not many people know that if you record the sound of running water, and playback the recording + or - the origional pitch, the sound of the running water stays the same, you cant slow it down OR speed it up, it 'flows' at the same speed it always does Wink

This was common science training in high school decades ago. So, what's the reason for this? It's easy. Let me say that it works the same for the various liquids. And it is the same for solids. Yet, there is a difference from liquid to liquid, like water and oil.

So, why?

Smiley
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September 15, 2014, 02:43:36 PM
Lol.. sound.. as a scratch dj with over 35 yrs on the decks I can say this.. not many people know that if you record the sound of running water, and playback the recording + or - the origional pitch, the sound of the running water stays the same, you cant slow it down OR speed it up, it 'flows' at the same speed it always does Wink
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September 15, 2014, 02:03:53 PM

There is more space between atoms than there are atoms in the universe.. I can see you have one atom. Wanna by the other so you have at least an excuse for the blank expression on your face that denotes the space in your head left after messin wi this mutha fucka?

As long as you are bringing that up, the spaces between the electrons and protons in an atom is where the parallel universes reside. The dimensions make them (the parallel universes) to be out of phase with regard to each other so that they don't overlap in a big way. The existence of the subatomic particles that make up the electrons and protons and neutrons, is the temporarily in-phasedness between certain of the parallel universes that actually gives substance to our universe; our universe reacts with other of the parallel universes to give reality to yet other of the parallel universes in a similar way. Probably the expansion of the earth as shown in the Neal Adams video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ, has to do with the gravity well of the earth actually "sucking" material from other parallel universes. Probably the emptiness of space has to do with all the other parallel universes that have gravity wells in those various spacial locations, sucking the material out of our space. It's all controlled by the various dimensional reactions throughout our mega-universe.

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So which god are we refering to?

Only kiddin, dont answer that..

I'll try not to answer too directly, but...

In my above quote about the parallel universes, we can see that all space is filled with universes (infinite in number?) that are separated by their vibrational phases that have to do with how the dimensions operate. The point is that space is "filled." This means that there is no "empty space" as we understand empty space. Everything that we call movement through empty space is really multitudes of vibrational "building-ups and tearing-downs" of various dimensional vibrations. Remember, subatomic particles are also vibrational in nature.

Okay, since space is not empty, but rather entirely filled with the various parallel universes, this means that space is not really space, but rather, it is an elastic solid... at least from a dimensional standpoint.

The thing about solids is that sound travels through solids. In fact sound travels through solids better than liquids, and better than air. And one of the most fabulous points about sound traveling through a substance is, that's how we talk. We talk using sound.

So, which God was it, again, Who spoke the mega-universe into being?

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September 15, 2014, 01:20:49 PM

There is more space between atoms than there are atoms in the universe.. I can see you have one atom. Wanna by the other so you have at least an excuse for the blank expression on your face that denotes the space in your head left after messin wi this mutha fucka?

As long as you are bringing that up, the spaces between the electrons and protons in an atom is where the parallel universes reside. The dimensions make them (the parallel universes) to be out of phase with regard to each other so that they don't overlap in a big way. The existence of the subatomic particles that make up the electrons and protons and neutrons, is the temporarily in-phasedness between certain of the parallel universes that actually gives substance to our universe; our universe reacts with other of the parallel universes to give reality to yet other of the parallel universes in a similar way. Probably the expansion of the earth as shown in the Neal Adams video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ, has to do with the gravity well of the earth actually "sucking" material from other parallel universes. Probably the emptiness of space has to do with all the other parallel universes that have gravity wells in those various spacial locations, sucking the material out of our space. It's all controlled by the various dimensional reactions throughout our mega-universe.

Smiley

So which god are we refering to?

Only kiddin, dont answer that..
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September 15, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
See, I am God.. you just cant help answering lol.. can you do that after you wipe the boot polish off jacko's face, or is that you? Is Micky Jack Back? Or were you njoing bein ripped to shreds like only marines know how to..?? Could'nt get enuff eh?

Ps, any american marines, no offence to you guys, (apart fi the british marines leave ya standin), but this is one of your brethren, or so he claims.. at least ma shit can be backed up and checked out.. you gona let me rip him like so? Dont blame ya's..
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September 15, 2014, 12:53:18 PM

See, now you know why you fail at life, ye canny take a tellin.. here, and now, pick a space where folks can come and see how I smash ye tae a pulp.. You wont. you should thank your lucky stars I dont just steal a drone using bluetooth n blow up your house wi you in it.. wait a minute.. 'Follow my religion?' I have no religion, for I have yet to find one that has not acted like, well.. you. Thanks to a new email however, seems someone knows where you are, and is in process of heading your way, dont say I didnt warn ya.. there's bigger societies out there than masons ya root.. lets see how long it takes ye tae answer back fi hospital..
Oh, wow! Decky used a single period at the end of a sentence, as shown above, in the quote. Almost can't believe it.

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Lol, but I'm scottish, no need for apologies on my behalf, we refuse to do anything 'english' properly, unless it's gettin rid o em..

You ARE fun.   Cheesy

Lol, cheers, it's ma monkey magic..

Oh, and to JackJack, if I were using a cloned modem, (fact) and hence providing an INVALID ip, how would you find me, since most folks know a cloned modem cannot provide valid information, since it (apparently) does not exist? Come to this capital city, login here, and I'll tell ye where the gym is, at least that way it's legal; you can die without me being charged for your murder.. I may have a case of serious manslaughter.. but hey, your a marine, and an american one at that.. fuckin shit bags couldnae begin tae reach ma level of understandin..

You are a star

Yeah, but am that gid at being god, you do what yer told.. agreed?

(how to get idiot to reply.com)
There's no space in URLs genius

hahahahahahaha... pmsl.. am in fuckin stitches.. bitcoins crashin cause everyone else is raofptlahahaffin!!!

Where is the url with the space?
There is more space between atoms than there are atoms in the universe.. I can see you have one atom. Wanna by the other so you have at least an excuse for the blank expression on your face that denotes the space in your head left after messin wi this mutha fucka?
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