Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 493. (Read 845477 times)
Isn't the Bible (and Koran for that matter) the largest selling fictional publication ever?!
Wow giga off-topic.
I didn't mention anything about infinity. And even the monkey page doesn't talk about infinity.
The point is that there are (1000 billions)^2 = 100000000000000000000000000 stars in the universe. The probability of having the conditions applied in the 70s in at least one of planet around one of them is rather high IMO.
Sorry. Me bad for assuming that you were, in part, talking about infinity when you mentioned a webpage - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem - that has as one of its basic premises the idea of an infinite amount of time. And, in real life, it seems that you almost have to have eternity for an infinite amount of time to exist. Sorry.
I have to ask. Do you know what the theory of evolution is? It almost sounds like you think its some kind of random pick from the tree of life.
Or that guy. ( dont remember his name) that was worried about going around for millions of years waiting to evolve a mouth so he could eat.
Thre is nothing random about evolution.
You dont have to go thru every single configuration to get to your goal like that monkey in the link
Edit: Sorry I rememberd wrong. It wasnt a mouth. It was going to the toilet. Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Lt5ClxG5Q
If the idea of evolution has to do with randomness, then, because of the difficulty involved along with probability, evolution is impossible.
If the idea of evolution has to do with cause and effect, then, because of the difficulty involved, the proof for God has to do with universe/machine > machine Maker = no evolution.
If it has to do with a combination of the two (randomness at times), or with something else entirely, then we don't have a clue, and evolution theory is entirely pointless.
In other words you dont know what it is. Please read up on the subject. Is easyer to have a debate when both sides knows the facts
Unfortunately, reading up on evolution facts doesn't provide any facts. It only provides conjecture.
So you havent even read up on it. How can you say it is impossible if you dont know what it is?
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
Bible says so.
The Bible says there's a guy would walked on water.
It says there's a guy who splited the water in 2.
It says there's a guy who spit in mud and un-blinded another guy with that.
Enjoy your fairy tails bro.
Thanks, jackjack.
The Bible exists, right? I mean there are book stores in many countries around the world where you can go to find a copy of the Bible in many languages, right? Well, if you studied the details of how the Bible came into existence, you would see that it is impossible for the Bible to exist. Yet, the Bible DOES exist.
Rather than do that, you study the details of how evolution exists. Then, rather than express your findings, that evolution is impossible to exist, you proudly and emphatically say that it exists. Yet, the only place anyone can see evolution happening is in the minds of the scientists. Yet people can see the Bible all over the place.
Not sure what you mean. Lord of the rings excist in loads of languages, is that a proof of goblins?
But you sounded so knowledgeable the other times.
You say its impossible for the bible to be in so many languages, Lord of the rings is also in so many languages. and it has just as many details as the bible
If its impossible for the bible to excist without God, then I have to conclude that the Lord of the rings cant excist without goblins
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
Bible says so.
The Bible says there's a guy would walked on water.
It says there's a guy who splited the water in 2.
It says there's a guy who spit in mud and un-blinded another guy with that.
Enjoy your fairy tails bro.
Thanks, jackjack.
The Bible exists, right? I mean there are book stores in many countries around the world where you can go to find a copy of the Bible in many languages, right? Well, if you studied the details of how the Bible came into existence, you would see that it is impossible for the Bible to exist. Yet, the Bible DOES exist.
Rather than do that, you study the details of how evolution exists. Then, rather than express your findings, that evolution is impossible to exist, you proudly and emphatically say that it exists. Yet, the only place anyone can see evolution happening is in the minds of the scientists. Yet people can see the Bible all over the place.
Not sure what you mean. Lord of the rings excist in loads of languages, is that a proof of goblins?
But you sounded so knowledgeable the other times.
Wow giga off-topic.
I didn't mention anything about infinity. And even the monkey page doesn't talk about infinity.
The point is that there are (1000 billions)^2 = 100000000000000000000000000 stars in the universe. The probability of having the conditions applied in the 70s in at least one of planet around one of them is rather high IMO.
Sorry. Me bad for assuming that you were, in part, talking about infinity when you mentioned a webpage - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem - that has as one of its basic premises the idea of an infinite amount of time. And, in real life, it seems that you almost have to have eternity for an infinite amount of time to exist. Sorry.
I have to ask. Do you know what the theory of evolution is? It almost sounds like you think its some kind of random pick from the tree of life.
Or that guy. ( dont remember his name) that was worried about going around for millions of years waiting to evolve a mouth so he could eat.
Thre is nothing random about evolution.
You dont have to go thru every single configuration to get to your goal like that monkey in the link
Edit: Sorry I rememberd wrong. It wasnt a mouth. It was going to the toilet. Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Lt5ClxG5Q
If the idea of evolution has to do with randomness, then, because of the difficulty involved along with probability, evolution is impossible.
If the idea of evolution has to do with cause and effect, then, because of the difficulty involved, the proof for God has to do with universe/machine > machine Maker = no evolution.
If it has to do with a combination of the two (randomness at times), or with something else entirely, then we don't have a clue, and evolution theory is entirely pointless.
In other words you dont know what it is. Please read up on the subject. Is easyer to have a debate when both sides knows the facts
Unfortunately, reading up on evolution facts doesn't provide any facts. It only provides conjecture.
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
Bible says so.
The Bible says there's a guy would walked on water.
It says there's a guy who splited the water in 2.
It says there's a guy who spit in mud and un-blinded another guy with that.
Enjoy your fairy tails bro.
Thanks, jackjack.
The Bible exists, right? I mean there are book stores in many countries around the world where you can go to find a copy of the Bible in many languages, right? Well, if you studied the details of how the Bible came into existence, you would see that it is impossible for the Bible to exist. Yet, the Bible DOES exist.
Rather than do that, you study the details of how evolution exists. Then, rather than express your findings, that evolution is impossible to exist, you proudly and emphatically say that it exists. Yet, the only place anyone can see evolution happening is in the minds of the scientists. Yet people can see the Bible all over the place.
Not sure what you mean. Lord of the rings excist in loads of languages, is that a proof of goblins?
Wow giga off-topic.
I didn't mention anything about infinity. And even the monkey page doesn't talk about infinity.
The point is that there are (1000 billions)^2 = 100000000000000000000000000 stars in the universe. The probability of having the conditions applied in the 70s in at least one of planet around one of them is rather high IMO.
Sorry. Me bad for assuming that you were, in part, talking about infinity when you mentioned a webpage - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem - that has as one of its basic premises the idea of an infinite amount of time. And, in real life, it seems that you almost have to have eternity for an infinite amount of time to exist. Sorry.
I have to ask. Do you know what the theory of evolution is? It almost sounds like you think its some kind of random pick from the tree of life.
Or that guy. ( dont remember his name) that was worried about going around for millions of years waiting to evolve a mouth so he could eat.
Thre is nothing random about evolution.
You dont have to go thru every single configuration to get to your goal like that monkey in the link
Edit: Sorry I rememberd wrong. It wasnt a mouth. It was going to the toilet. Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Lt5ClxG5Q
If the idea of evolution has to do with randomness, then, because of the difficulty involved along with probability, evolution is impossible.
If the idea of evolution has to do with cause and effect, then, because of the difficulty involved, the proof for God has to do with universe/machine > machine Maker = no evolution.
If it has to do with a combination of the two (randomness at times), or with something else entirely, then we don't have a clue, and evolution theory is entirely pointless.
In other words you dont know what it is. Please read up on the subject. Is easyer to have a debate when both sides knows the facts
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
Bible says so.
The Bible says there's a guy would walked on water.
It says there's a guy who splited the water in 2.
It says there's a guy who spit in mud and un-blinded another guy with that.
Enjoy your fairy tails bro.
Thanks, jackjack.
The Bible exists, right? I mean there are book stores in many countries around the world where you can go to find a copy of the Bible in many languages, right? Well, if you studied the details of how the Bible came into existence, you would see that it is impossible for the Bible to exist. Yet, the Bible DOES exist.
Rather than do that, you study the details of how evolution exists. Then, rather than express your findings, that evolution is impossible to exist, you proudly and emphatically say that it exists. Yet, the only place anyone can see evolution happening is in the minds of the scientists. Yet people can see the Bible all over the place.
There's no proof that gods don't exist; However, there's also no proof that they do exist. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. But, some of these things can't stand.
hah
an apt reference 
/thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
You guys are wasting your time.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
hah
an apt reference /thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
Oh come on! Do you just want to hear someone talk? Or what?
It's not impossible for God to make something impossible for Himself, and also make it possible. You are forgiven for as long as you live... forgiven for EVERYTHING. It's once you die that you have locked yourself out of forgiveness, if you have. God has given each of us some of Himself. So, who is He going to deny when you will not accept Him? You or Himself?
He is jealous for and on behalf of righteousness, for honor, for the law of love, for those who trust in Him, and for truth. How long does He have to put up with a bunch of God-haters who prove that they are such by attempting to deny Him His rightful place of honor He holds as Creator and Owner of all things?
May I ask you this next question, please?
If someone has MPD, say, and one of their personalities thought that it was god, himself, would he be forgiven after death?
If god wants everyone to believe in their beliefs, why is it that we all can't get into this 'Heaven'? Were in the scripture is the usage of 'God-haters'? I'm Agnostic - does that make me a 'God-hater'?
Your argument sounds completely one-sided. You're not taking in the other non-religions, that also seemed doomed to your Hell. Freethinkers, Humanists, Apatheists, et cetera. Not to mention - will Muslims get into Heaven, too, or Jews? In which they believe in the same Allah/god as you? Hmm? How about the other branches of Christianity, which are in common feuds in one another and don't have the exact same beliefs? Huh? Will they too find salvation?
What about the murderous and treacherous ones? You make it seem as if the ultimate 'sin' is believing in your own beliefs. If you follow god's path, why is it that you call anyone who doesn't have your beliefs a 'God-hater' when so obviously your belief that god exists condemns my beliefs?
You don't seem that open-minded to me. To be honest, I don't hate Christians at all, or Muslims, or Jews, or any religion that doesn't aim to hurt other's beliefs. Your pale arguments are clearly why some feel the need to sway away from your beliefs.
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
Bible says so.
The Bible says there's a guy would walked on water.
It says there's a guy who splited the water in 2.
It says there's a guy who spit in mud and un-blinded another guy with that.
Enjoy your fairy tails bro.
There's no proof that gods don't exist; However, there's also no proof that they do exist. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. But, some of these things can't stand.
hah an apt reference
/thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
You guys are wasting your time.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
hah
an apt reference /thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
Oh come on! Do you just want to hear someone talk? Or what?
It's not impossible for God to make something impossible for Himself, and also make it possible. You are forgiven for as long as you live... forgiven for EVERYTHING. It's once you die that you have locked yourself out of forgiveness, if you have. God has given each of us some of Himself. So, who is He going to deny when you will not accept Him? You or Himself?
He is jealous for and on behalf of righteousness, for honor, for the law of love, for those who trust in Him, and for truth. How long does He have to put up with a bunch of God-haters who prove that they are such by attempting to deny Him His rightful place of honor He holds as Creator and Owner of all things?
May I ask you this next question, please?
If someone has MPD, say, and one of their personalities thought that it was god, himself, would he be forgiven after death?
If god wants everyone to believe in their beliefs, why is it that we all can't get into this 'Heaven'? Were in the scripture is the usage of 'God-haters'? I'm Agnostic - does that make me a 'God-hater'?
Your argument sounds completely one-sided. You're not taking in the other non-religions, that also seemed doomed to your Hell. Freethinkers, Humanists, Apatheists, et cetera. Not to mention - will Muslims get into Heaven, too, or Jews? In which they believe in the same Allah/god as you? Hmm? How about the other branches of Christianity, which are in common feuds in one another and don't have the exact same beliefs? Huh? Will they too find salvation?
What about the murderous and treacherous ones? You make it seem as if the ultimate 'sin' is believing in your own beliefs. If you follow god's path, why is it that you call anyone who doesn't have your beliefs a 'God-hater' when so obviously your belief that god exists condemns my beliefs?
You don't seem that open-minded to me. To be honest, I don't hate Christians at all, or Muslims, or Jews, or any religion that doesn't aim to hurt other's beliefs. Your pale arguments are clearly why some feel the need to sway away from your beliefs.
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
Bible says so.
very informative
Cataclysmic event?
That's called plate tectonics. And that's not cataclysmic
You're welcome
Plate tectonics is a theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics. If it is anything like the Theory of Evolution regarding validity, it has been disproved long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo
Yeah so evolution has been disproved long ago, plate tectonics has been disproved long ago, but god is real.
Damn, you are hilarious, I love this thread.
Go ahead and laugh. The politicians of science are laughing a lot harder, because they got you to believe all their nonsense while the facts against it are right under your nose.
I love this thread. You atheists are so hilarious!
Lol, I personally wrote a dozen scientific papers, so I guess I am the one making people believing my "nonsense"
Aha! The truth comes out. You are part of the conspiracy of scientists.
Yeah exactly Sherlock
Well, you're the one who said it.
I sure hope he does.
There's no proof that gods don't exist; However, there's also no proof that they do exist. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. But, some of these things can't stand.
hah an apt reference
/thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
You guys are wasting your time.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
hah
an apt reference /thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
Oh come on! Do you just want to hear someone talk? Or what?
It's not impossible for God to make something impossible for Himself, and also make it possible. You are forgiven for as long as you live... forgiven for EVERYTHING. It's once you die that you have locked yourself out of forgiveness, if you have. God has given each of us some of Himself. So, who is He going to deny when you will not accept Him? You or Himself?
He is jealous for and on behalf of righteousness, for honor, for the law of love, for those who trust in Him, and for truth. How long does He have to put up with a bunch of God-haters who prove that they are such by attempting to deny Him His rightful place of honor He holds as Creator and Owner of all things?
May I ask you this next question, please?
If someone has MPD, say, and one of their personalities thought that it was god, himself, would he be forgiven after death?
If god wants everyone to believe in their beliefs, why is it that we all can't get into this 'Heaven'? Were in the scripture is the usage of 'God-haters'? I'm Agnostic - does that make me a 'God-hater'?
Your argument sounds completely one-sided. You're not taking in the other non-religions, that also seemed doomed to your Hell. Freethinkers, Humanists, Apatheists, et cetera. Not to mention - will Muslims get into Heaven, too, or Jews? In which they believe in the same Allah/god as you? Hmm? How about the other branches of Christianity, which are in common feuds in one another and don't have the exact same beliefs? Huh? Will they too find salvation?
What about the murderous and treacherous ones? You make it seem as if the ultimate 'sin' is believing in your own beliefs. If you follow god's path, why is it that you call anyone who doesn't have your beliefs a 'God-hater' when so obviously your belief that god exists condemns my beliefs?
You don't seem that open-minded to me. To be honest, I don't hate Christians at all, or Muslims, or Jews, or any religion that doesn't aim to hurt other's beliefs. Your pale arguments are clearly why some feel the need to sway away from your beliefs.
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
How could you possibly know that?
Were you there then?
There's no proof that gods don't exist; However, there's also no proof that they do exist. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. But, some of these things can't stand.
hah an apt reference
/thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
You guys are wasting your time.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
hah
an apt reference /thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
Oh come on! Do you just want to hear someone talk? Or what?
It's not impossible for God to make something impossible for Himself, and also make it possible. You are forgiven for as long as you live... forgiven for EVERYTHING. It's once you die that you have locked yourself out of forgiveness, if you have. God has given each of us some of Himself. So, who is He going to deny when you will not accept Him? You or Himself?
He is jealous for and on behalf of righteousness, for honor, for the law of love, for those who trust in Him, and for truth. How long does He have to put up with a bunch of God-haters who prove that they are such by attempting to deny Him His rightful place of honor He holds as Creator and Owner of all things?
May I ask you this next question, please?
If someone has MPD, say, and one of their personalities thought that it was god, himself, would he be forgiven after death?
If god wants everyone to believe in their beliefs, why is it that we all can't get into this 'Heaven'? Were in the scripture is the usage of 'God-haters'? I'm Agnostic - does that make me a 'God-hater'?
Your argument sounds completely one-sided. You're not taking in the other non-religions, that also seemed doomed to your Hell. Freethinkers, Humanists, Apatheists, et cetera. Not to mention - will Muslims get into Heaven, too, or Jews? In which they believe in the same Allah/god as you? Hmm? How about the other branches of Christianity, which are in common feuds in one another and don't have the exact same beliefs? Huh? Will they too find salvation?
What about the murderous and treacherous ones? You make it seem as if the ultimate 'sin' is believing in your own beliefs. If you follow god's path, why is it that you call anyone who doesn't have your beliefs a 'God-hater' when so obviously your belief that god exists condemns my beliefs?
You don't seem that open-minded to me. To be honest, I don't hate Christians at all, or Muslims, or Jews, or any religion that doesn't aim to hurt other's beliefs. Your pale arguments are clearly why some feel the need to sway away from your beliefs.
Jesus along with His disciples said that people are either for them or against them.
Cataclysmic event?
That's called plate tectonics. And that's not cataclysmic
You're welcome
Plate tectonics is a theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics. If it is anything like the Theory of Evolution regarding validity, it has been disproved long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo
Yeah so evolution has been disproved long ago, plate tectonics has been disproved long ago, but god is real.
Damn, you are hilarious, I love this thread.
Go ahead and laugh. The politicians of science are laughing a lot harder, because they got you to believe all their nonsense while the facts against it are right under your nose.
I love this thread. You atheists are so hilarious!
Lol, I personally wrote a dozen scientific papers, so I guess I am the one making people believing my "nonsense"
Aha! The truth comes out. You are part of the conspiracy of scientists.
Yeah exactly Sherlock
Cataclysmic event?
That's called plate tectonics. And that's not cataclysmic
You're welcome
Plate tectonics is a theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics. If it is anything like the Theory of Evolution regarding validity, it has been disproved long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo
Yeah so evolution has been disproved long ago, plate tectonics has been disproved long ago, but god is real.
Damn, you are hilarious, I love this thread.
Go ahead and laugh. The politicians of science are laughing a lot harder, because they got you to believe all their nonsense while the facts against it are right under your nose.
I love this thread. You atheists are so hilarious!
Lol, I personally wrote a dozen scientific papers, so I guess I am the one making people believing my "nonsense"
Aha! The truth comes out. You are part of the conspiracy of scientists.
There's no proof that gods don't exist; However, there's also no proof that they do exist. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. But, some of these things can't stand.
hah an apt reference
/thread
You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
You guys are wasting your time.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a brainwashed person to understand there are no gods.
hah
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You forget the rest of it. Jesus said, but nothing is impossible for God. By the time you get through the eye of the needle and see that God is there, you will already be in the judgment, and there will be no chance to change your mind and believe. Why not? Here's why not.
You can only believe in things that you are not sure of. When you are sure of something that you know, you don't believe it any longer. You are beyond that... beyond simply having to believe it. You KNOW it.
Once you are in the judgment, you will KNOW that God exists. Yet you can only be saved by faith = believing. You won't have any chance to believe any longer. You will NOT be saved if you haven't believed BEFORE you get to the judgment, because in the judgment you will KNOW God exists.
If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?
Oh come on! Do you just want to hear someone talk? Or what?
It's not impossible for God to make something impossible for Himself, and also make it possible. You are forgiven for as long as you live... forgiven for EVERYTHING. It's once you die that you have locked yourself out of forgiveness, if you have. God has given each of us some of Himself. So, who is He going to deny when you will not accept Him? You or Himself?
He is jealous for and on behalf of righteousness, for honor, for the law of love, for those who trust in Him, and for truth. How long does He have to put up with a bunch of God-haters who prove that they are such by attempting to deny Him His rightful place of honor He holds as Creator and Owner of all things?
May I ask you this next question, please?
If someone has MPD, say, and one of their personalities thought that it was god, himself, would he be forgiven after death?
If god wants everyone to believe in their beliefs, why is it that we all can't get into this 'Heaven'? Were in the scripture is the usage of 'God-haters'? I'm Agnostic - does that make me a 'God-hater'?
Your argument sounds completely one-sided. You're not taking in the other non-religions, that also seemed doomed to your Hell. Freethinkers, Humanists, Apatheists, et cetera. Not to mention - will Muslims get into Heaven, too, or Jews? In which they believe in the same Allah/god as you? Hmm? How about the other branches of Christianity, which are in common feuds in one another and don't have the exact same beliefs? Huh? Will they too find salvation?
What about the murderous and treacherous ones? You make it seem as if the ultimate 'sin' is believing in your own beliefs. If you follow god's path, why is it that you call anyone who doesn't have your beliefs a 'God-hater' when so obviously your belief that god exists condemns my beliefs?
You don't seem that open-minded to me. To be honest, I don't hate Christians at all, or Muslims, or Jews, or any religion that doesn't aim to hurt other's beliefs. Your pale arguments are clearly why some feel the need to sway away from your beliefs.
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The only evidence that we have of a high radiation shower that produced mutations are Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Do you also not think that much of the sun UV is blocked by the ozone layer? (That wasn't there since day 1)And stop talking nonsense, the evolution through radioactivity/UV takes MILLIONS of years.
Have you ever saw a mountain come up from the ground?
No?
Do you really think that god is a better explanation for them than plate tectonics?
Picky, picky, picky. Cortex7 simply said, "... a high radiation shower... ." The Hiroshima and Nagasaki atom bombs WERE a high radiation shower compared with the way we are hit by cosmic and UV radiation. What are you, some kind of nut?
Lol do you even brain?
The amount of radiations billions of years ago without the ozone layer is ridiculously higher than your two tiny farts
Also, again, EVOLUTION TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS.
So dense
This radiation is the same reason why Carbon-14 was different back before the Great Flood of Noah's day. The radiation has tricked us into thinking that the earth is billions of years old when it is really only about 6,000 years old, all because it messes up our carbon dating.
LMFAO you think C14 is used to date the billions years of our planet? Who's the nut now?
Do you also believe that the sedimentation was several orders magnitude faster back then? Lol
actually, how much sediment do you think a fucking global flood would spread around in a relatively small timeframe?
Did you want that answer in lbs., or cubic feet? Actually, I never thought about how much. But the fact that there are many places in the world that have loads of sea shells in the mountains, shows that some kind of cataclysmic event happened worldwide.
When you find whole trees that cross through several strata of sediment, sediment that scientists say represents hundreds of thousands of years, those are some very old trees. Or, take the places where human footprints are embedded right along with those of dinosaurs...
Anyway, people can guess what might have happened. We might even be able to make guestimations. But it is things like these, and many others - for example, no missing, links in all those mountainous sea creatures listed above - that show that the ideas of evolution and old earth, aren't quite right.
So, what is the truth? Scientific investigation has come up with theories upon theories. In fact, there are so many theories that the definition of the word "theory" is being twisted out of its dictionary meaning. Yet, nobody has come up with a concrete answer (unless you want to call sediment a form of concrete).
And if you say something like coinbuyer2580...
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... Evolution is constant it does not have lulls, every generation is slightly different from the generation before it...
... you would be right. It's called entropy.Cataclysmic event?
That's called plate tectonics. And that's not cataclysmic
You're welcome
Plate tectonics is a theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics. If it is anything like the Theory of Evolution regarding validity, it has been disproved long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo
Yeah so evolution has been disproved long ago, plate tectonics has been disproved long ago, but god is real.
Damn, you are hilarious, I love this thread.
Go ahead and laugh. The politicians of science are laughing a lot harder, because they got you to believe all their nonsense while the facts against it are right under your nose.
I love this thread. You atheists are so hilarious!
Lol, I personally wrote a dozen scientific papers, so I guess I am the one making people believing my "nonsense"
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The only evidence that we have of a high radiation shower that produced mutations are Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Do you also not think that much of the sun UV is blocked by the ozone layer? (That wasn't there since day 1)And stop talking nonsense, the evolution through radioactivity/UV takes MILLIONS of years.
Have you ever saw a mountain come up from the ground?
No?
Do you really think that god is a better explanation for them than plate tectonics?
Picky, picky, picky. Cortex7 simply said, "... a high radiation shower... ." The Hiroshima and Nagasaki atom bombs WERE a high radiation shower compared with the way we are hit by cosmic and UV radiation. What are you, some kind of nut?
Lol do you even brain?
The amount of radiations billions of years ago without the ozone layer is ridiculously higher than your two tiny farts
Also, again, EVOLUTION TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS.
So dense
This radiation is the same reason why Carbon-14 was different back before the Great Flood of Noah's day. The radiation has tricked us into thinking that the earth is billions of years old when it is really only about 6,000 years old, all because it messes up our carbon dating.
LMFAO you think C14 is used to date the billions years of our planet? Who's the nut now?
Do you also believe that the sedimentation was several orders magnitude faster back then? Lol
actually, how much sediment do you think a fucking global flood would spread around in a relatively small timeframe?
Did you want that answer in lbs., or cubic feet? Actually, I never thought about how much. But the fact that there are many places in the world that have loads of sea shells in the mountains, shows that some kind of cataclysmic event happened worldwide.
When you find whole trees that cross through several strata of sediment, sediment that scientists say represents hundreds of thousands of years, those are some very old trees. Or, take the places where human footprints are embedded right along with those of dinosaurs...
Anyway, people can guess what might have happened. We might even be able to make guestimations. But it is things like these, and many others - for example, no missing, links in all those mountainous sea creatures listed above - that show that the ideas of evolution and old earth, aren't quite right.
So, what is the truth? Scientific investigation has come up with theories upon theories. In fact, there are so many theories that the definition of the word "theory" is being twisted out of its dictionary meaning. Yet, nobody has come up with a concrete answer (unless you want to call sediment a form of concrete).
And if you say something like coinbuyer2580...
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... Evolution is constant it does not have lulls, every generation is slightly different from the generation before it...
... you would be right. It's called entropy.Cataclysmic event?
That's called plate tectonics. And that's not cataclysmic
You're welcome
Plate tectonics is a theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics. If it is anything like the Theory of Evolution regarding validity, it has been disproved long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo
Yeah so evolution has been disproved long ago, plate tectonics has been disproved long ago, but god is real.
Damn, you are hilarious, I love this thread.
Go ahead and laugh. The politicians of science are laughing a lot harder, because they got you to believe all their nonsense while the facts against it are right under your nose.
I love this thread. You atheists are so hilarious!
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