Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 494. (Read 845654 times)

Yeah so evolution has been disproved long ago, plate tectonics has been disproved long ago, but god is real.
Damn, you are hilarious, I love this thread.

Plate tectonics is a theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics. If it is anything like the Theory of Evolution regarding validity, it has been disproved long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo

Cataclysmic event?
That's called plate tectonics. And that's not cataclysmic

You're welcome

These anomalies are easily explained, an outside force placed them in strata or multiple strata. Erratic boulders are examples of this phenomena, in this case glaciers are the outside force. In fact glaciers may be the explanation of many of the anomalies you have mentioned. They are the cause of many geological deposits throughout the world some examples are drumlins, eskers, kame etc.


There is no evidence supporting the idea that these tracks were made by a human being. If you examine the tracks there would be no real way to definitively discern from them the animal that left the track. The type of rock that these fossil footprints were left in is limestone, the most common sedimentary rock on earth. These footprints were meters apart and could have formed millions of years separated from each other.

I am not trying to start an argument, I think the problem is T.V. Television programs are not obligated to produce both sides of a hypothesis, nor are they required to fact check. All they aim to do is entertain and grab ratings leaving viewers who do not question what the have been shown believing it as fact.

Did you want that answer in lbs., or cubic feet? Actually, I never thought about how much. But the fact that there are many places in the world that have loads of sea shells in the mountains, shows that some kind of cataclysmic event happened worldwide.

When you find whole trees that cross through several strata of sediment, sediment that scientists say represents hundreds of thousands of years, those are some very old trees. Or, take the places where human footprints are embedded right along with those of dinosaurs...

Anyway, people can guess what might have happened. We might even be able to make guestimations. But it is things like these, and many others - for example, no missing, links in all those mountainous sea creatures listed above - that show that the ideas of evolution and old earth, aren't quite right.

So, what is the truth? Scientific investigation has come up with theories upon theories. In fact, there are so many theories that the definition of the word "theory" is being twisted out of its dictionary meaning. Yet, nobody has come up with a concrete answer (unless you want to call sediment a form of concrete).

And if you say something like coinbuyer2580...
... you would be right. It's called entropy.

actually, how much sediment do you think a fucking global flood would spread around in a relatively small timeframe?

That describes every god everyone has ever thought of.

 

Of course Thor is real. But only in the minds of some of the people. And only for as long as they live.

So the OP just proved that Thor is real?
For the Asgard!!! 

Well, there's a kind of reverse poetry in that "philosophy and conjecture" post, as well.

In its simplest terms, time is a dimension of space that gives space the freedom to move. Without time, nothing in space could move without crashing into something else. Everything in space would be held rigid. Could something else be developed that would make time unnecessary? Probably. But it would change the whole structure of the universe.

Oh come on! Do you just want to hear someone talk? Or what?

It's not impossible for God to make something impossible for Himself, and also make it possible. You are forgiven for as long as you live... forgiven for EVERYTHING. It's once you die that you have locked yourself out of forgiveness, if you have. God has given each of us some of Himself. So, who is He going to deny when you will not accept Him? You or Himself?

He is jealous for and on behalf of righteousness, for honor, for the law of love, for those who trust in Him, and for truth. How long does He have to put up with a bunch of God-haters who prove that they are such by attempting to deny Him His rightful place of honor He holds as Creator and Owner of all things?

There's no proof that gods don't exist; However, there's also no proof that they do exist. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs. But, some of these things can't stand.

If nothing is impossible for god, why is it that he can't forgive you for not believing? Many people claim that god is a jealous god - would you want someone filled with jealousy determining your life's path and fate?

^^ Philosophy and conjecture is all I see in that post. Don't get me wrong philosophy is the greatest gift mankind kind has, it creates a path to critical thinking but it can also be used to skew the ideals of weaker minds.

Time is a very real mathematical constant, to simplify it with such a linear definition is a fallacy.

Time is NOT scientific, it is a perception. From the perception, came scientific time. For only then can the infinite exist, and change in it's form as we form our own formed form. For I am a master of time and space as are you, but you believe in a god who has angels making you believe only angels have wings. In effect your wings are clipped. Your ship is tied to port. Your books are based on time.

Interesting concept number feknows..

In a fair and just society:

There exists 'proof beyond reasonable doubt.' for the existance of 'diety'

There is no scientific evidence for the crime commited.

Henceforth it is 'witnessed'.

When we sleep we are NOT talking to ourselve's. We communicate with, for want of a better word, 'another'.

My post regarding the waking dream shows the syncronicity between sleeping world(s), and this reality, for everything exists in time, at the same time.

We do not need doors or windows..

Together we exist in 3 worlds.. at the same time, but cant all dream at the same time. (showing a limited capacity.. somewhere.. lol..)

My interpretation of 'ferryman': Before we get to the 'ferryman' we must learn to move OVER A void, (pmsl) that is between each sleeping state, represented by the falling dream. Or being born of the eutaris. Take your pick.. the dream makes us feel we are falling. Woman have given birth standing up, the new child would be 'falling' Keep in mind when you are awoke with a start just before entering sleep, you took too long to 'crossover' and 'forgot' - to breath.

This 'ferryman', (uses the constellation Carina, which sailed the megalanic cloud to..?) we talk to in our sleep, in the guise or form of the people we believe we dreamed of.. and people in this world affect those sleeping. As do those who die. We witness when sleeping, the deaths of others, at the time they occur, in this reality, just somewhere else.. hence our nightmares. They probably happened. And more likely When many go at once..

Dante's last vision.. the 'ferryman' we pay to take us over the river of forgetfullness..

This is the relevance of the stone boat at the giza complex. From the pyramids (Orion), we leave in ship Carina, and visit Canis Major to see sirius, for Sirius is the opener of the way, (Anubis, your guide in your dreams.. yup) and shows the way to WHERE to meet Dante's ferryman, who takes you across the river nile, or milky way..

A Man made remix's of the star chart preceding's, proof that there exists other state's of worldly existance clearly 'above' and 'beyond' our understanding that science CANNOT explain, period. The 'book of the dead' is how to live in this life, like many others. Horus/Jesus/Hiramhoomeva is mercury, or second hand of a clock. Ra is the hour. The Moon is the minute. Man made versions of the gods in the sky, or planets, and stars.. and spirals..

A different remix of a same tune by adaption.

A deck of cards, choose your number, 52, or 72? Playing cards or Tarot cards? The elements exist. Cards are physical focal points, nothing more, for the knowledge comes from within, in the waken state.

A map that can be measured even when asleep.

HOw long is a peice of string?

How can a memory exist in your mind space, to exact space and dimensions?

As eye c it, we exist, and should'nt. But we do. And in doing so shape using a form of the light of our soul that gives breath to not only us, but the very flames of the Sun itself.

We exist in a far greater thing than god.. for god exists in time.

In response to OP.

Scientist do not believe we came from a single pair of one man and one women, evolution is much more complicated than that. Our genetic makeup can be tracked to a single group not pair. Slight changes passed on from single generations over time through this select group produced the base code of modern Sapien Sapien DNA. Evolution is constant it does not have lulls, every generation is slightly different from the generation before it. Every experience your father & mother had before you were conceived was written to their genetic code and passed to you, immunities are proof of this process. The truth is your genetic line is directly connected to mine and ours is directly connected to the first form of life that existed on this planet.

The only scientific contender to the theory of evolution is the theory of Panspermia.  Creationism is not a theory, scientific theories require proofs, Creationism is merely rhetoric birthed by dogmatic fears.

My argument is not that we were not created, it is that evolution is a truth, undeniable evidences exist all around us. Isn't much more amazing to believe that our existence was planned 13 billion years ago? That every nano second, every insignificant event from then to now was the result of the planning of a truly superior architect. An equation so complex that if any force within the universe were altered the entire system would collapse on itself.

The reality is no side can honestly argue for or against a creator, neither can provide any proofs for their argument. If the answer is impossible to prove for either side then we must assume both sides are right. If both sides are correct then the creator both exists and does not exist.

LMFAO you think C14 is used to date the billions years of our planet? Who's the nut now?
Do you also believe that the sedimentation was several orders magnitude faster back then? Lol

Some points.

1. The Old testament suggests that Jesus was present in the form of the Angel of the Lord. The "The" rather than an "an" Angel is the distinction. Several places in the O.T. talk about the angel of the Lord. His earliest clear showing is at the time of the Exodus. The best overall description is in the minor prophet book of Zechariah.

2. How many books suggest the things at http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso01.htm ? People - me too - like to add their own interpretations of things at times.

3. Search on the Council of Nicea, in 325 A.D., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed. Remember to check other places, as well. Wikipedia can be edited by anybody, and some people edit it with questionable info. Arrius was a priest in Egypt who disagreed with the majority at the Council of Nicea.

4. Check any bibliography for the reference you listed.

5. Can we trust that the bishops at the Council of Nicea acted with freedom? It is indeed a great study. Many have undertaken it. The consensus seems to be that those bishops were acting honestly.

The whole thing seems to boil down to the question of Bible scholars being trained honestly and logically. Is there a big political cover-up of the truth? For example, I have mentioned the Exekiel 28 reference to Satan in the O.T. This reference is seldom mentioned in the churches, yet it is very eye-opening about Satan and how things work, both on earth, and in heaven. So, why would the churches not mention it? Is it possible that some of the things in Ezekiel 28 run against traditional church teaching?

The most important point has to do with salvation and eternal life.

What do you think about this, BADecker?

It seems that this book is demonstrating the true authorship of the New Testament; I would like to hear your opinion prior to making a hasty conclusion!

I agree with an aspect of this. Here's what I mean.

Let's make one of the forms of copper sulfate - or any chemical that we might choose - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper%28II%29_sulfate. Let's do it exactly the same way every time we do it. And let's do the method billions of billions of times. Why? Because the next time the results might be different and make a different chemical. I mean, what are the odds that it can happen the same way every time? All we need is ONE difference to show that the universe is inconsistent, and that random chance can happen.

Since nothing whatsoever can be proven about anything, because the next time things might be different, let's throw away all our modern inventions, forget all our knowledge, take up cave living, eat whatever comes to our hand rather than planting or hunting, etc.

After all, this is what evolutionists suggest, indirectly, and by inference.

This radiation is the same reason why Carbon-14 was different back before the Great Flood of Noah's day. The radiation has tricked us into thinking that the earth is billions of years old when it is really only about 6,000 years old, all because it messes up our carbon dating.