I had an idea for SBay obviously because it's decentralized no one has any control of what is put on it, but maybe it could have like in bct.org an ignore button on vendors and items and if that item or vendor was ignored enough say like 1000 wallets then the item or vendors listing would be automatically removed by the system, that way if someone was trying to sell assassinations, or guns, or child abuse material the community could quickly vote to remove it by just clicking the ignore button, is this possible to do?
Censorship = liability
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I had an idea for SBay obviously because it's decentralized no one has any control of what is put on it, but maybe it could have like in bct.org an ignore button on vendors and items and if that item or vendor was ignored enough say like 1000 wallets then the item or vendors listing would be automatically removed by the system, that way if someone was trying to sell assassinations, or guns, or child abuse material the community could quickly vote to remove it by just clicking the ignore button, is this possible to do?
Censorship = liabilityI had an idea for SBay obviously because it's decentralized no one has any control of what is put on it, but maybe it could have like in bct.org an ignore button on vendors and items and if that item or vendor was ignored enough say like 1000 wallets then the item or vendors listing would be automatically removed by the system, that way if someone was trying to sell assassinations, or guns, or child abuse material the community could quickly vote to remove it by just clicking the ignore button, is this possible to do?
Censorship = liability 
Have some questions.
I was wondering what is the difference between ShadowChat and Bitmessage? They seem to have some similarities. Here is ShadowChat white paper: http://www.shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcoin-p2p-em.pdf
Here is bitmessage whitepaper: https://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf
The bitmessage whitepaper mentions something about Proof of Work, since Shadow is POS coin how do they compare in this respect?
Also the devs say on the Roadmap that they plan to add video, voice, and file support to ShadowChat. Is ShadowChat designed differently than bitmessage in order to be able to accommodate this in the future? Would voice, and video be possible in bitmessage's setup?
Also there is another project I heard about called Tox (https://tox.im/). They aim to be an encrypted peer-to-peer skype replacement. They already have text, voice, video, and file support. Anybody know how this project compares to ShadowChat? Seems similar in some ways, and they even say they may incorporate bitcoin into their software in the future: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/tox-encrypted-skype-replacement-will-possibly-integrate-bitcoin/
You can check out their reddit sub here: http://www.reddit.com/r/projecttox
All three projects seem to have similar goals. Can anyone can give any insight into how these three compare to each other?
I was wondering what is the difference between ShadowChat and Bitmessage? They seem to have some similarities. Here is ShadowChat white paper: http://www.shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcoin-p2p-em.pdf
Here is bitmessage whitepaper: https://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf
The bitmessage whitepaper mentions something about Proof of Work, since Shadow is POS coin how do they compare in this respect?
Also the devs say on the Roadmap that they plan to add video, voice, and file support to ShadowChat. Is ShadowChat designed differently than bitmessage in order to be able to accommodate this in the future? Would voice, and video be possible in bitmessage's setup?
Also there is another project I heard about called Tox (https://tox.im/). They aim to be an encrypted peer-to-peer skype replacement. They already have text, voice, video, and file support. Anybody know how this project compares to ShadowChat? Seems similar in some ways, and they even say they may incorporate bitcoin into their software in the future: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/tox-encrypted-skype-replacement-will-possibly-integrate-bitcoin/
You can check out their reddit sub here: http://www.reddit.com/r/projecttox
All three projects seem to have similar goals. Can anyone can give any insight into how these three compare to each other?
Seems Cryptsy and Poloniex wallets working good now after the recent bug fixes.
I saw on IRC, it looks like maybe some new devs are coming into the Shadow Project as well: http://shadowcash.io/index/irc/12-2-2015/
Good to hear
I saw on IRC, it looks like maybe some new devs are coming into the Shadow Project as well: http://shadowcash.io/index/irc/12-2-2015/
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12-02-2015 12:28
SDCDev:
it looks like more devs are keen to start working... will find out who is who in the zoo as soon as American peeps wake up :p
SDCDev:
it looks like more devs are keen to start working... will find out who is who in the zoo as soon as American peeps wake up :p
Good to hear
No way to do it, as far as I can tell. If you allow wallets to downvote that is just going to result in downvote wars with multiple wallets between competitors. If the market gets dirty enough that will encourage others to create a cleaner substitute.
One thing that will help is categorization. If someone is selling drugs or CP they would have to put it in the applicable section for drugs or CP if they want anyone to find it. A person who doesn't want to see that doesn't have to open that section.
But what seems like it would be more of a problem to me is spam and abuse of such a system. What's to stop some dark soul from just jamming up the system with thousands of nonsense listings? They might want to require a small fee for each listing to be distributed among the stakers like the other fees.
I concur. I bet they are coding it this way. Fees to list should be mandatory with rewards going to stakers. Similar to Shadow transaction fees being 100x SDC transaction fees (all going to stakers).
Other fees up for debate would be fees on sales and fees on escrow. I could go either way with overdoing it with fees but the reality is that it's a decentralized platform, one central party isn't getting fat and happy off fees alone. They would encourage stakers to be nodes and strength the network.
I had an idea for SBay obviously because it's decentralized no one has any control of what is put on it, but maybe it could have like in bct.org an ignore button on vendors and items and if that item or vendor was ignored enough say like 1000 wallets then the item or vendors listing would be automatically removed by the system, that way if someone was trying to sell assassinations, or guns, or child abuse material the community could quickly vote to remove it by just clicking the ignore button, is this possible to do?
Censorship of any-kind is a difficult concept however for any project to succeed it must have generalized popular support otherwise we are wasting our time. There are numerous things unsavory types would try to do with a decentralized marketplace that we would be smart to avoid if we want this project to succeed. Its all about social change for me, an Ebay without the monopolistic fees that encourages commerce between us would be a massive tool. Its up to us individually to pay our taxes. A illicit marketplace that had no 'house cleaning' for things like child abuse will be maligned by everyone until its ground to dust including its users as we have seen.
No way to do it, as far as I can tell. If you allow wallets to downvote that is just going to result in downvote wars with multiple wallets between competitors. If the market gets dirty enough that will encourage others to create a cleaner substitute.
One thing that will help is categorization. If someone is selling drugs or CP they would have to put it in the applicable section for drugs or CP if they want anyone to find it. A person who doesn't want to see that doesn't have to open that section.
But what seems like it would be more of a problem to me is spam and abuse of such a system. What's to stop some dark soul from just jamming up the system with thousands of nonsense listings? They might want to require a small fee for each listing to be distributed among the stakers like the other fees.
I had an idea for SBay obviously because it's decentralized no one has any control of what is put on it, but maybe it could have like in bct.org an ignore button on vendors and items and if that item or vendor was ignored enough say like 1000 wallets then the item or vendors listing would be automatically removed by the system, that way if someone was trying to sell assassinations, or guns, or child abuse material the community could quickly vote to remove it by just clicking the ignore button, is this possible to do?
Censorship of any-kind is a difficult concept however for any project to succeed it must have generalized popular support otherwise we are wasting our time. There are numerous things unsavory types would try to do with a decentralized marketplace that we would be smart to avoid if we want this project to succeed. Its all about social change for me, an Ebay without the monopolistic fees that encourages commerce between us would be a massive tool. Its up to us individually to pay our taxes. A illicit marketplace that had no 'house cleaning' for things like child abuse will be maligned by everyone until its ground to dust including its users as we have seen.
I had an idea for SBay obviously because it's decentralized no one has any control of what is put on it, but maybe it could have like in bct.org an ignore button on vendors and items and if that item or vendor was ignored enough say like 1000 wallets then the item or vendors listing would be automatically removed by the system, that way if someone was trying to sell assassinations, or guns, or child abuse material the community could quickly vote to remove it by just clicking the ignore button, is this possible to do?
Surely a cool story cant be too far away.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
Woot. Will update in the morning
Hi Mullick,
I will advise as soon as the latest code is up and ready for you to take.
Hoping it will be up in the next few hours!
Regards,
St3baS
Hi again Mullick - The daemon code has been updated and it is ready for you to pull and compile.
Hang in there Klaus.
If anyone has issues with blkindex.dat error while loading the blockchain, make sure you turn off antivirus or just exclude the location via quarantine list.
If blkindex.dat was removed, you should be able to recover the data via antivirus quarantine blacklist.
If blkindex.dat was removed, you should be able to recover the data via antivirus quarantine blacklist.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
Woot. Will update in the morning
Hi Mullick,
I will advise as soon as the latest code is up and ready for you to take.
Hoping it will be up in the next few hours!
Regards,
St3baS
what makes this coin so good , is the fact that its acting like a coin and not an investment , coin have been really steady since 5 months or so ^_^ keep on workin team
Hi everyone.
If you have encountered or know of any bugs, please send me a PM with the details (Preferably a method on how to reproduce them) so that I can pass the information on to the correct people.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
* Seg-faulting on rewind chain has also been fixed.
Thanks for your help in making Shadow even better than it is.
If you have encountered or know of any bugs, please send me a PM with the details (Preferably a method on how to reproduce them) so that I can pass the information on to the correct people.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
* Seg-faulting on rewind chain has also been fixed.
Thanks for your help in making Shadow even better than it is.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
Woot. Will update in the morning
Awesome to hear, keep up the good work guys.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
Woot. Will update in the morning
So when is this review suppose to happen? Any timeline? I feel for you guys with the most recent price action down to 16s. Eeesh.
Same question
Hi everyone.
If you have encountered or know of any bugs, please send me a PM with the details (Preferably a method on how to reproduce them) so that I can pass the information on to the correct people.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
* Seg-faulting on rewind chain has also been fixed.
Thanks for your help in making Shadow even better than it is.
If you have encountered or know of any bugs, please send me a PM with the details (Preferably a method on how to reproduce them) so that I can pass the information on to the correct people.
* Add address freezing wallet has been fixed.
* Seg-faulting on rewind chain has also been fixed.
Thanks for your help in making Shadow even better than it is.
I thing it's worth the quote
Wow major dump whats going on
As I know from closed friend of Isidor Zeuner. He found a major flaw in Shadow that compromise the anonymity and ShadowCash total
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