BADecker,
perphaps you need some time to copy and paste less and think more. You have no alternative to a society you currently live in. You, yourself a christian. This seasteading, if succesfull will put you and many others among non-believing sharks. You talk about new start, but only thing you will manage to do is raising new walls.
Because you were too weak, to live in society you were part of and not strong enough to form a new one.
Sure, lets talk about bitcoin, weed, 3d printing and arming everyone (how many of those concepts are even your own?). That will make for great fundamentals of a new culture.
I will pray for you.
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Hmm..a small boat with guns. How cute.
When every seasteader has their own 3D printed guns of choice...good luck.
When every seasteader has their own 3D printed guns of choice...good luck.
Thats your resolution of conflict between those who have and have nots?
Arm everybody? Ive heard about such story before.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6M3M9tTz3vk/TMi90BatpVI/AAAAAAAAATY/Hgk5V40lat8/s1600/Bioshock.jpg
Perhaps, you will have to one day grow up and realize you are not special snowflake in a vacuum but human being and part of society. Otherwise, I see very little reason to exchange tyranny of atheistic, socialistic governments for tyranny of sea steading atheists, who believe in the survival of the fittest. More likely than not, they are not "fittest" either. If they were, they wouldnt seek refuge outside of society in the first place.
Part of the human race, maybe... but not part of YOUR society, necessarily.
As for 3D printing, we're only at the start of what can be done:
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218365-2017-05-21-17-incredible-3d-printed-objects.htm
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218367-2017-05-21-how-metal-3d-printing-works.htm
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218364-2017-05-21-3d-printed-ceramics-popmech.htm
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/197262-2016-05-20-carbon-m1-super-fast-3d-printer-demo-publisher-recommended.htm
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/217813-2017-05-10-scientists-successfully-3d-print-human-cartilage-with-a-breakthrough-stem.htm
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/217273-2017-05-01-7-amazing-cnc-machines-you-should-have.htm
https://ghostgunner.net/products/ghost-gunner
Hmm..a small boat with guns. How cute.
When every seasteader has their own 3D printed guns of choice...good luck.
When every seasteader has their own 3D printed guns of choice...good luck.
Thats your resolution of conflict between those who have and have nots?
Arm everybody? Ive heard about such story before.
Perhaps, you will have to one day grow up and realize you are not special snowflake in a vacuum but human being and part of society. Otherwise, I see very little reason to exchange tyranny of atheistic, socialistic governments for tyranny of sea steading atheists, who believe in the survival of the fittest. More likely than not, they are not "fittest" either. If they were, they wouldnt seek refuge outside of society in the first place.
I just finished up a week in Tahiti for the first ever Tahitia seasteading conference.
The takeaway is that French Polynesia supports us building the first ever seastead in one of their protected lagoons. They are willing to set up a Special Economic Zone for the seastead that will allow us to have our own economic laws but still require following their criminal laws. So things such as taxes, labor laws, business regulation etc will be handled by us, things such as murder, rape, theft etc will be handled under the current French system. And of course, defense against pirates will fall under the French navy's responsibility.
The legislation should go through by the end of 2017 and then 2018 we can get started. Likely first seastead will be up in 2020.
I will be working with a great team of cryptocurrency experts to see how we can integrate Bitcoin and blockchain technology for things such as title management, equity investments, shares, etc.
I like the idea of this developing into a society based upon blockchain.The takeaway is that French Polynesia supports us building the first ever seastead in one of their protected lagoons. They are willing to set up a Special Economic Zone for the seastead that will allow us to have our own economic laws but still require following their criminal laws. So things such as taxes, labor laws, business regulation etc will be handled by us, things such as murder, rape, theft etc will be handled under the current French system. And of course, defense against pirates will fall under the French navy's responsibility.
The legislation should go through by the end of 2017 and then 2018 we can get started. Likely first seastead will be up in 2020.
I will be working with a great team of cryptocurrency experts to see how we can integrate Bitcoin and blockchain technology for things such as title management, equity investments, shares, etc.
If the seastead takes off and becomes stable it could create a very rich zone for blockchain development and real world testing, becoming the blockchain equivalent of silicon valley and attracting a lot of interest and investment on the world stage.
There are various groups trying to tie contracts in with the blockchain, to make them solid, and to keep the record very public. Among them are The Omni Layer (http://www.omnilayer.org/) and Counterparty (https://counterparty.io/)... and there are others. The thing we really need is a SegWit-like, additional blockchain, that holds the contract info, and that ties the contract info into the Bitcoin blockchain, so that it can always be found and attested to with indisputable accuracy... and easily transferred by Bitcoin, if desired by the contract makers.
I just finished up a week in Tahiti for the first ever Tahitia seasteading conference.
The takeaway is that French Polynesia supports us building the first ever seastead in one of their protected lagoons. They are willing to set up a Special Economic Zone for the seastead that will allow us to have our own economic laws but still require following their criminal laws. So things such as taxes, labor laws, business regulation etc will be handled by us, things such as murder, rape, theft etc will be handled under the current French system. And of course, defense against pirates will fall under the French navy's responsibility.
The legislation should go through by the end of 2017 and then 2018 we can get started. Likely first seastead will be up in 2020.
I will be working with a great team of cryptocurrency experts to see how we can integrate Bitcoin and blockchain technology for things such as title management, equity investments, shares, etc.
I like the idea of this developing into a society based upon blockchain.The takeaway is that French Polynesia supports us building the first ever seastead in one of their protected lagoons. They are willing to set up a Special Economic Zone for the seastead that will allow us to have our own economic laws but still require following their criminal laws. So things such as taxes, labor laws, business regulation etc will be handled by us, things such as murder, rape, theft etc will be handled under the current French system. And of course, defense against pirates will fall under the French navy's responsibility.
The legislation should go through by the end of 2017 and then 2018 we can get started. Likely first seastead will be up in 2020.
I will be working with a great team of cryptocurrency experts to see how we can integrate Bitcoin and blockchain technology for things such as title management, equity investments, shares, etc.
If the seastead takes off and becomes stable it could create a very rich zone for blockchain development and real world testing, becoming the blockchain equivalent of silicon valley and attracting a lot of interest and investment on the world stage.
I would suggest a SegWit-like additional database, that contains the literal contracts... but at least a reference to them wherever they might exist... as proof.
I just finished up a week in Tahiti for the first ever Tahitia seasteading conference.
The takeaway is that French Polynesia supports us building the first ever seastead in one of their protected lagoons. They are willing to set up a Special Economic Zone for the seastead that will allow us to have our own economic laws but still require following their criminal laws. So things such as taxes, labor laws, business regulation etc will be handled by us, things such as murder, rape, theft etc will be handled under the current French system. And of course, defense against pirates will fall under the French navy's responsibility.
The legislation should go through by the end of 2017 and then 2018 we can get started. Likely first seastead will be up in 2020.
I will be working with a great team of cryptocurrency experts to see how we can integrate Bitcoin and blockchain technology for things such as title management, equity investments, shares, etc.
The takeaway is that French Polynesia supports us building the first ever seastead in one of their protected lagoons. They are willing to set up a Special Economic Zone for the seastead that will allow us to have our own economic laws but still require following their criminal laws. So things such as taxes, labor laws, business regulation etc will be handled by us, things such as murder, rape, theft etc will be handled under the current French system. And of course, defense against pirates will fall under the French navy's responsibility.
The legislation should go through by the end of 2017 and then 2018 we can get started. Likely first seastead will be up in 2020.
I will be working with a great team of cryptocurrency experts to see how we can integrate Bitcoin and blockchain technology for things such as title management, equity investments, shares, etc.
This is an interesting concept.
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
One of the reasons that various countries of the world will leave Seasteading alone is, if they mess with us, news will report it, and the world will rebel. As long as we don't do big things, and make big "waves" in the world environment, they will leave us alone... because they know that they can take us out any minute of any day. But, this is the same with anybody in any country in the whole world.
They will take out a threat. As long as we don't become a threat to them, they will let us live, even with our petty self-protection from people like Somalian pirates.
Maybe a code will need to be written between these outlaw states, like the old code of pirates.
One thing at a time, por favor. Once we get going, this will be voted on. Sure, some of the "founders" have thought of this. But, at the beginning at least, this will be a thing voted on by the members... after we launch.
I'm thinking Mad Max but on water.
This is an interesting concept.
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
One of the reasons that various countries of the world will leave Seasteading alone is, if they mess with us, news will report it, and the world will rebel. As long as we don't do big things, and make big "waves" in the world environment, they will leave us alone... because they know that they can take us out any minute of any day. But, this is the same with anybody in any country in the whole world.
They will take out a threat. As long as we don't become a threat to them, they will let us live, even with our petty self-protection from people like Somalian pirates.
Maybe a code will need to be written between these outlaw states, like the old code of pirates.
One thing at a time, por favor. Once we get going, this will be voted on. Sure, some of the "founders" have thought of this. But, at the beginning at least, this will be a thing voted on by the members... after we launch.
This is an interesting concept.
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
One of the reasons that various countries of the world will leave Seasteading alone is, if they mess with us, news will report it, and the world will rebel. As long as we don't do big things, and make big "waves" in the world environment, they will leave us alone... because they know that they can take us out any minute of any day. But, this is the same with anybody in any country in the whole world.
They will take out a threat. As long as we don't become a threat to them, they will let us live, even with our petty self-protection from people like Somalian pirates.
Maybe a code will need to be written between these outlaw states, like the old code of pirates.
This is an interesting concept.
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
One of the reasons that various countries of the world will leave Seasteading alone is, if they mess with us, news will report it, and the world will rebel. As long as we don't do big things, and make big "waves" in the world environment, they will leave us alone... because they know that they can take us out any minute of any day. But, this is the same with anybody in any country in the whole world.
They will take out a threat. As long as we don't become a threat to them, they will let us live, even with our petty self-protection from people like Somalian pirates.
This is an interesting concept.
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
The types of people doing this type of thing tend to be focused on being entirely self sufficient and therefore rejecting anything that comes from existing states.
I would be interested in the idea but would realize the need to import products from neighboring countries.
I would be interested to know how the economy of such a nation would develop.
Maybe the cost of imports would be offset by exports of fish or other aquatic agriculture?
Maybe a digital economy would form, providing service through technology. (although this raises the question of how to connect)
Mel Gibson-Waterworld
Hmm..a small boat with guns. How cute.
When every seasteader has their own 3D printed guns of choice...good luck.
When every seasteader has their own 3D printed guns of choice...good luck.
Actually, this - guns - is exactly a big point why we have the Seasteading idea. What I mean is this.
Look at the guns in the picture 2 posts up. Look what is said about the Somalians: "Somalians cant read but they sure know how to operate a rpg."
I can read. I am reasonably intelligent. But I am not allowed in gun-loving old USA to have an assortment of guns like this. It costs too much. Same said much of western Europe. And that's besides the anti-gun laws.
Seasteading is about freedom. Who gives those Somalians their guns? If they can have them, so can we... and bigger and better guns... out there where nobody denies us our rights.
Look at the guns in the picture 2 posts up. Look what is said about the Somalians: "Somalians cant read but they sure know how to operate a rpg."
I can read. I am reasonably intelligent. But I am not allowed in gun-loving old USA to have an assortment of guns like this. It costs too much. Same said much of western Europe. And that's besides the anti-gun laws.
Seasteading is about freedom. Who gives those Somalians their guns? If they can have them, so can we... and bigger and better guns... out there where nobody denies us our rights.
How would you be protected from pirates and such? Most countries can't protect their citizen on land and can't effectvally watch all waterflow.
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Pirates? We don't develop near nations where pirating is common. Also...guns.
If any project starts out with "we have to be able to defend ourselves against nations" then it's dead from the start. Imagine if everyone considering buying a boat thought "I can't buy this boat, Korea may attack me".
You are not talking about buying a boat, you are talking about starting a country.
Country that cant defend itself from something as meager as third world pirates is no country.
We dont live 1960s anymore.
But there were way more pirates in the 1860s.
In the west, sure, man. Sure.
But nobody here mentioned sea steading next to New York or Copenhagen
southern Asia is still quite exciting place.How many armed and motivated Indonesians would I need to take over this sea steading utopia and turn it into large prison for everybody? Ten? Twenty?
Or lets say, you like Metal Gear Solid and find Zanzibar to be good starting place. Somalians cant read but they sure know how to operate a rpg.
And then what? Call a mama (aka bad ol´ government)? You cant run on a sea and you sure as hell wont outswim speedboats of these guys.
So off grid, they're even off land!
Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4500142/Meet-couple-ve-spent-25-years-floating-home.html.
Quote from: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4500142/Meet-couple-ve-spent-25-years-floating-home.html
Married artists Wayne Adams and Catherine King began building their floating home off Vancouver Island 25 years ago
The compound is always transforming; the couple add structures and repair damage from storms, which can be quite severe
Freedom Cove runs on solar energy and generators and a fresh water system Wayne constructed
The couple make trips to land every two weeks and joke about feeling 'landsick' when they leave their beloved floating paradise
The compound includes gardens, a dance floor, a garage for boats, living and artistic space
Wayne and Catherine operate an open-door policy and invite curious tourists into their home, showing them around Freedom Cove and giving them homemade candles as parting gifts
They say their lifestyle has been a 'learn by doing' experience - teaching them, for example, to anchor Freedom Cove with weighted ropes during storms
Much of their daily routine focuses on maintenance and the couple say they were aware of hardships and risks, but they would not want to live any other way.
The compound is always transforming; the couple add structures and repair damage from storms, which can be quite severe
Freedom Cove runs on solar energy and generators and a fresh water system Wayne constructed
The couple make trips to land every two weeks and joke about feeling 'landsick' when they leave their beloved floating paradise
The compound includes gardens, a dance floor, a garage for boats, living and artistic space
Wayne and Catherine operate an open-door policy and invite curious tourists into their home, showing them around Freedom Cove and giving them homemade candles as parting gifts
They say their lifestyle has been a 'learn by doing' experience - teaching them, for example, to anchor Freedom Cove with weighted ropes during storms
Much of their daily routine focuses on maintenance and the couple say they were aware of hardships and risks, but they would not want to live any other way.
Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4500142/Meet-couple-ve-spent-25-years-floating-home.html.
How would you be protected from pirates and such? Most countries can't protect their citizen on land and can't effectvally watch all waterflow.
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Pirates? We don't develop near nations where pirating is common. Also...guns.
If any project starts out with "we have to be able to defend ourselves against nations" then it's dead from the start. Imagine if everyone considering buying a boat thought "I can't buy this boat, Korea may attack me".
You are not talking about buying a boat, you are talking about starting a country.
Country that cant defend itself from something as meager as third world pirates is no country.
We dont live 1960s anymore.
But there were way more pirates in the 1860s.
How would you be protected from pirates and such? Most countries can't protect their citizen on land and can't effectvally watch all waterflow.
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Also a certain nation in Asia(North Korea) has reports of abducting people from boats in sea, they may attack you and the outside world would never know what happened.
And I don't think the nations and people fleeing to live outside their jurisdiction, I think even the "host" nation would be a threat
Pirates? We don't develop near nations where pirating is common. Also...guns.
If any project starts out with "we have to be able to defend ourselves against nations" then it's dead from the start. Imagine if everyone considering buying a boat thought "I can't buy this boat, Korea may attack me".
You are not talking about buying a boat, you are talking about starting a country.
Country that cant defend itself from something as meager as third world pirates is no country.
We dont live 1960s anymore.
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