Topic: Seasteading - page 5. (Read 26872 times)

Just file with paper this year.

Nobody at the IRS will want to open these potential Corona virus letters.

Except for one major point. Income taxation in America is voluntary. The IRS even says it in their paperwork.

If taxation is voluntary, why do people lose in court? In the same way that they would lose if they fought anybody incorrectly in court. For example. If I said you owed me $100,000 and took you to court on it, if you didn't fight me, or if you fought in the wrong way, you might wind up owing me $100,000 by court judgment, even if you didn't owe me the money before.

The IRS has done it like this, only in a way that they trick you into losing. They built all kinds of stuff into law so that they confuse the heck out of everybody. People don't know the correct way to fight because of this. Yet even though there is all this IRS law, it has been shown by its own written paperwork to not really be law. So, where is the trick located that binds people into paying?

It starts out in agreements that people make with the IRS. The IRS Form W-4, for example, that a person signs with his employer, is an initial agreement that a person has with the IRS, through his employer. By answering the questions/points on the Form W-4, the person is stating - in a hidden way - that he is making an agreement with the IRS. If, instead, the person filled out Form W-4 with "n-a" on all the lines, wrote "EXEMPT" or "EXCLUDED" across the form, and signed it "non-assumpsit (no contract), signature," the employer is supposed to NOT withhold, and the IRS is not supposed to collect.

If the IRS demands a 1040, the same can be done directly to the IRS by filling out the 1040 in a similar way as the Form W-4... "n-a" on all the lines, "EXEMPT" or "EXCLUDED" across the form, and signed "non-assumpsit, signature."

Notice that most letters the IRS sends, are not signed. But if they are, it's a facsimile signature... not a live IRS person signature. This means that it is harassment. Write to the branch head, and warn him/her that you will sue them personally for sending you harassing letters. The letters will stop. But if they don't sue the IRS sucker personally, man-to-man... and get some money out of him.

In court, never be represented, and make it known that you are not representing yourself. You are standing present. Because you, a man or woman are present, your accuser has to be in form of man or woman, so that you can question them under oath on the stand. Standard USA law.

The IRS almost invariably indicts as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. So, require that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (written on the indictment against you) get on the stand so that you can question him/her regarding the damage that you did to him/her. Since he won't step forward (because he is not a man or woman), take the oath, get on the stand, case dismissed. If somebody else comes along and says he is representing the IRS, you need your accuser to be there himself. Standard law.

Now that you have been damaged by being harassed all the way to court, demand payment from them to cover your expenses... at least in the amount that you were being sued for, plus court costs and other expenses.

Don't attempt this until you understand what you are doing, and have at least two helpers who understand it as well.


Not that if you want to be a US taxpayer, pay your taxes.

I've been to one of these casinos in Florida. I got on a ferry that took us 12 miles out to a casino boat. We sat out there gambling all day then came back on the ferry.

I have no idea how they pay taxes or if they do at all.

The thing US seasteaders do not understand is that by living in international waters they are subject to paying US income taxes as if they are in the US. People who live outside of the US get the Foreign Earned Income tax credit which makes it so that their first $100k of income is tax free if they live in another country.
But if you are in international waters you are not in a foreign country. So the default goes back to paying full US income taxes.

This has been demonstrated in court cases, one man on a contract in the Antarctic tried to claim the Foreign tax credit. He was turned down due to not being in a foreign country.

So the whole idea of seasteading being a tax haven is false. You must pay more taxes (as Americans).

Yes it is not about prohibited or not but about paying taxes. There are casinos in Florida so should be slowed also in Miami port. But If ships would allow gambling close to Florida coast then they would need to follow Florida gambling regulations and pay taxes there. 15 years ago I worked on a cruise ship and casinos simply started working after ship go to international waters. Same with the shops. On cruise ships that also makes sense. When on sea everything is open, when the ship dock then people go off the ship. So there is not even need to have casino and shops open. Even most bars are closed during port days. And crew members can go off the ship or take a long sleep.

Thank you, franky1. You have given me the best laugh I have had in a while.

Come on. Fess up. You are really notbatman, aren't you.

If you had listened to what Elwar said in other posts and in his videos, you would have caught the point that living out on a spar for months isn't something people generally desire. His boat was always there, to take him to an island that was visible on the horizon (sorry about using "horizon," notbatman).

Real seasteading includes island-like living, only man-made... you know, with grass, and trees, and hills, and rocks, and gardens, etc.

Look at how long it is taking Dubai to build its floating paradise. And they have $billions to work with... maybe $trillions. Do you really want to live on a spar? People who don't have Dubai $billions are simply starting where they can. Have you applied for a job with Elwar's people, yet?

LOL.

I never claimed that I built/designed/funded the first seastead. I'll wait while you provide proof to the contrary.

There is a world outside of Bitcointalk. I seem to be the only seasteader on this forum but there are a lot of people involved in the different projects going on. And our project is certainly not the only one.

Somehow you believe I am the only person controlling all projects and speak for all seasteaders. Big praise but I am not worthy of such a high regard.

I wonder how much you hounded the first guy to test drive a Tesla, telling him he hadn't thought about driving distance or where to charge his battery.

im glad you finally see my point by your own admissions. that even after a dozen years. all you managed to achieve was to be a guest on a space research pod that was not an actual 'seasteading/bluewater/oceanbuilder' project
(remember you yourself denounced association with its funding/designing/involvement)

so im glad your finally realising your lack of results even after all them investment campaigns and world wide conference tours

We made Grant our CEO a few weeks ago. The plan is to transition things to him as the face of the company for things moving forward in Panama. I am certainly happy to be out of the spotlight. I was more protecting our engineer from the spotlight as he is socially...well, he's a great engineer.

If you want to create your own business and believe you can do it better then great! We are open sourcing our design, we want these in the water. All of us involved just want to live on the ocean so if someone else does it better then that makes our lives easier. I am retired so this is just my passion project.

I would hope that other companies would sprout up creating great homes on the ocean but having been involved in seasteading for a dozen years now I know that it is mainly people just talking on the Internet and nobody actually doing anything. So until that time, we will be the ones actually doing anything while the arm chair quarterbacks sit back and talk about what we should have done while they don't do anything at all.

All you said was a bunch of stuff you don't know about Elwar. Elwar is great. He isn't lying. All the things he says, he says in such a way that he expresses what he wants people to know... without expressing lies, but at the same time keeping his private life private.

With regard to Elwar's high speed, most of us, and especially you, should speed up to stop a little.

badecker. your the one in the dark
i go places. i do my research. i invest. and i do things.
just take a look at elwars supposed successes
day one im living free on a seastead. im sacagewea
day 60 i didnt own it i didnt make it i was just a temporary vacation guest, a no body, please dont imprison me for breaking the law

by the way even in the 2 months t was at sea. elwar couldnt even manage to stay there for 60 nights.
he just wanted to borrow a completely different project. fame it up as being the seastead project for a money grab

$10k for 1 week time share... are you kidding me
you havnt even bought a single one and already want to grab money and not even let people own a hole pod in full.

and.. you think you can then get the investor to sub-let that to a airBnB customer for that week
seriously you need to sack your accountant. and project manager. and fundraiser. and lawyer

elwar even now you still just aint getting the point are you
stop stroking your ego trying to make out your sacagewea of the lewis and clarke expedition
not only is it a bad reference. but just .. no.. you aint

to be honest you latest video where you tag the guy 'sea jobs' has a bit more rep then you. maybe its time to take a step back and let people with a real eco-sea passion take over a eco-sea project.

i cant believe you presented the latest video as a anti-gov propaganda piece without realising how legally you were in the wrong, and thinking you were just a couple living in their home being free. .. then getting people around you to then say you didnt build it, own it, you were just staying there a while..
dang. even now you cant even edit a straight narrative together.

i say all this because seasteading and eco projects actually fascinate me both personally and professionally. and years ago i was looking for investments and hobbies. but you elwar have been the thorn in the project that has detracted me from it and even times i thought of suggesting a few things to help.. i then rethought my thoughts and decided you were not worthy of the tips.

but anyways. i digressed.
lets get back to my initial thought of the latest project you are trying to promote.
again dang your time shares are ridiculous especially when your hoping for those investors to make their money back from airBnB.
i still think you need a math teacher
its just as bad as your previous project of wanting millions to buy a boat to use as a HQ/office and occassional one night-guests

seriously try any let someone else be the front man of the project. even that 'sea jobs' guy(grant romundt) sounds better than you

Is it possible to build boats with that thing?

Here is the latest video in the series: "The First Seasteaders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OovkeOuZsqU

Thanks, Elwar.     

Ocean Builders' engineer, Rudiger, bought it with his own funds. He is a big bitcoin holder.

As the bitcoin price rises, our project will thrive with it.

Are you getting investment funds to buy this, or are you using your own funds like before? Is this what you are going to use to build your seastead/landstead structures. Please pardon me for sounding like I mean you personally. You have previously explained that you are not part of the business, at least formally.

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Ocean Builders is getting an Erectorbot 3D printer. One of the largest 3D printers in the world.

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lots of concept art, lots of memes, lots of buzzwords.
but have you even got a tape measure out to see if a pod can even be forklifted into a proposed wooded area you advertise
or are you just highlighting the mailing list of $100 deposit requirements