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When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
Maybe this was a misunderstanding from the OP's observant eyes that led to this topic, but I can agree that about mentally unstable people (people with mental illness, crazy,...) they can harm themselves and those around them, and it is best to create their own entertainment space that may involve gambling.

But imo, people's appearance is not a measure, but most of us rely on it to judge someone's wealth/poorness or, as OP observes here, their state of being god, but I can speculate that the case here is that the man in the story did not have much money and perhaps gambling was the only way he knew of to generate income, but ironically it was like a trap, hopefully he's not a gambling addict either.

Maybe you are right on the point that there seems to be a little misunderstanding in the story that the OP told. And from what I also saw, it seems that he is not talking about an addict; the only thing that seems to worry the OP is the physical condition and clothing of the gambler, which he refers to.

But still, from what I can think of, it seems that the gambler's clothing is not really like that of a beggar. Because the casino staff just let it go, which means it's still normal to look at the gamblers' clothing because if it doesn't distract their customers, maybe this op may have just exaggerated his story.
People do really love to judge and would really be believing on things that on whats up into their minds on which it isnt really just that ethical sometimes on making some conclusions and trying out to discriminate into someone or judging them basing on how they do behave and how they do dressed up. Why people cant just let people do play and do things that they do want without needing to make up some assumptions that
people who are mentally stable should only be the ones who would be entering the vicinity? It is really just that too much in speaking about those criteria on which we know that it cant really be just that
applicable considering that anyone could free to play as long they do have the money.

They would really be that kicked out on the place if ever they would really be doing such acts which it isnt already appropriate but judging them on how they do dress and how they do behave
then it is already that too much or really that crossing in the line in speaking about someones right. There are really just those people who are really that
easy to judge basing up on how you do look without even knowing the whole story. lol
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Its shallow to determine a gambler's worth or intentions by their clothes. Although behaviour matters more than clothes, the casino's non-discriminatory attire code is admirable. Here, society's distorted reliance on appearances is evident.

Officers are essential to a healthy gambling environment. They must be vigilant for unruly customers regardless of outfit. Conduct matters, not clothes. As someone familiar with gaming dynamics, I think this approach is vital to a courteous, fun gambling environment.

Finally, the idea that shabby-dressed people could be wealthy defies prejudices. Remember that appearances can be deceiving, so never underestimate anybody solely on their appearance. This perspective enhances our awareness of human variation and life's unpredictability.
There is a saying don't judge a book by its cover. So that's what we or the officers at the casino have to do. But in reality, this is only partially the case because there are still people who only see it from its appearance. When there are people who dress shabbily, they are not well received in a place. But well-dressed people are well received. In many places, many people don't look at someone just by their appearance but overall.

And yes, the officer's job is to ensure that the workplace is safe from anything. They can ask someone to leave the casino premises if officers see them as potentially creating a disturbance there. And if someone has no intention of causing a disturbance, the officers will not do anything and will watch.

Yes, that's true as long as the person doesn't make trouble and disturb the other players, then just leave it alone, he's just gambling and after the money runs out he immediately goes home without making a fuss if he loses. After all, the person is a regular customer which means he's used to coming shabby clothes because the most important thing is that the bets are paid according to the betting rate. As long as he doesn't harm other people and doesn't harm the casino then it's fine, and we also don't know if the life of this shabby person is really a poor person or a millionaire who disguises himself so that no one recognizes him playing gambling. Whatever thing always happen in the world gambling as long as he is still gambling in his shabby clothes means he is still said to be someone who can afford to lose money.

Well, thats the problem, usually even people who dress neatly can get into trouble if they experience defeat and are emotional, so we don't need to discriminate against someone just by the way they dress. Even if it's shabby, at least the person is safe and doesn't bother other people or harm other people.
And because he had visited the casino very often and only wanted to gamble and when he was finished, he would immediately leave and not disturb the others, the officers allowed him to gamble. The officer didn't see him doing anything strange, and because he was used to it, he just watched the person. The person in the shabby clothes may be in disguise and he is a rich person, especially since the officers already know who he really is and where his money comes from.

However, gambling can attract people from various circles because of the factor of winning from gambling. That's what makes people from lower classes continue to go to gambling places because they still hope to win some money.
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Mentally unstable people should not gamble because how can they gamble well when their mental state is not in good condition. But the problem is that casino or betting shop owners don't see this, they don't care about the condition of their players, because money is money, they don't care where and from whom the money comes. What they think about is money and money, and as long as the player doesn't make trouble there, he is free to play as he likes until the money runs out and that is the fact that I see.
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The gambling owner never allow the person with unsound mind,because most probably they will fight with the gambling site.They never realized the importance of the gambling site,they will fight without any proof with the gambling site.So the gambling site will delete Or ban their account because of the unprofessional behavior because of less sound of mind.The reason itself help us to earn more money by the technical skills in the gambling site.The physical activity and apperance was not the important factor here.Because the most brilliant person in the many sector will look like the simple person till they prove their own business skills in the gambling site.
The space doesn't belong to anyone, as far as you're in the system and have no secure any solid standings, it means you're just a newbie grooving about looking for evidence. Brilliant gamblers have merge their primary target and also have backup options in cases where their main plans fails, the alternative will carry be triggered from there onwards. We know how risky it is for gamblers trying to suit into the system and I've no clarity of the incidence to expects next other than staying on one side and providing for ourselves. Mentally unstable individuals shouldn't been allow any where close to the bettingshop because they have these recalcitrant attitudes towards these gambling activities and I've seen quite alot of people that have become victims.
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When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
Maybe this was a misunderstanding from the OP's observant eyes that led to this topic, but I can agree that about mentally unstable people (people with mental illness, crazy,...) they can harm themselves and those around them, and it is best to create their own entertainment space that may involve gambling.

But imo, people's appearance is not a measure, but most of us rely on it to judge someone's wealth/poorness or, as OP observes here, their state of being god, but I can speculate that the case here is that the man in the story did not have much money and perhaps gambling was the only way he knew of to generate income, but ironically it was like a trap, hopefully he's not a gambling addict either.

Maybe you are right on the point that there seems to be a little misunderstanding in the story that the OP told. And from what I also saw, it seems that he is not talking about an addict; the only thing that seems to worry the OP is the physical condition and clothing of the gambler, which he refers to.

But still, from what I can think of, it seems that the gambler's clothing is not really like that of a beggar. Because the casino staff just let it go, which means it's still normal to look at the gamblers' clothing because if it doesn't distract their customers, maybe this op may have just exaggerated his story.
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Yes, that means the casino can accept someone in shabby clothes to come and gamble in the casino. Based on what has been said, the guy didn't make a scene in his casino, so the officers didn't mind if he gambled. Moreover, after gambling, he will leave the casino straight away without making a fuss about other people who are also in the casino and gambling. Unless the person often disturbs other players and makes a fuss, perhaps the officers will no longer allow him to gamble at the casino. Not all people who dress shabbily indeed have mental disorders because there could be people who dress shabbily. But he turns out to be a millionaire who gambles and doesn't want anyone to recognize him in gambling so he decides to dress shabbily. The important thing is that everything will be fine if the person doesn't disturb other players.

The officers at the casino must have recognized the people who were their regular customers because that was their job. And I think there are even people who dress neatly but often disturb people who are gambling and the officers have to be firm with them and will not allow them to return to gambling at the casino. Anyone can come to the casino as long as they are old enough to gamble and not disturb other people. The officers who work at the casino look after this because they also want to avoid any problems while they work there.
Yes, that's true as long as the person doesn't make trouble and disturb the other players, then just leave it alone, he's just gambling and after the money runs out he immediately goes home without making a fuss if he loses. After all, the person is a regular customer which means he's used to coming shabby clothes because the most important thing is that the bets are paid according to the betting rate. As long as he doesn't harm other people and doesn't harm the casino then it's fine, and we also don't know if the life of this shabby person is really a poor person or a millionaire who disguises himself so that no one recognizes him playing gambling. Whatever thing always happen in the world gambling as long as he is still gambling in his shabby clothes means he is still said to be someone who can afford to lose money.

Well, thats the problem, usually even people who dress neatly can get into trouble if they experience defeat and are emotional, so we don't need to discriminate against someone just by the way they dress. Even if it's shabby, at least the person is safe and doesn't bother other people or harm other people.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.
If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers

A gambler that causes trouble in the casino, should be tagged mentally ill and shouldn't be allowed to enter the casino. But if another gambler is safe and doesn't fight or destroy any facilities in the casino, he should be allowed to spend his money. Everyone has their space, and nobody disturbs one another, it's a safe place for every gambler who is qualified by age to participate and enjoy his habit. Hence we shouldn't have a bad time with such people as regards gambling. Whenever a person is allowed by the authorities to enter a place, he has been checked long ago and found worthy of visiting. If not he would have been bounced long ago by the security men. Whether a casino or the government should ban mentally ill people from participating in gambling, is a question that has no direct answer. Since most people who are gambling addicts are indirectly mentally ill. And the government or the casino has done nothing to keep them away from gambling or ban them entirely from the habit.

Government for mentally ill people aims to heal them and recover their senses, to maintain a good and quality society. Mental disorder has different stages, and not until one slaps or smashes his TV sets on the floor that he'll be considered mentally ill. The human brain is suffering each day from challenges that compel it to suffer mental illness. But only the strong can withstand and still hold themselves back from the temptation of getting aggressive on certain matters. But when it gets obvious, the person can be taken to the hospital to receive some injections to help them sleep. And cool their brain. Gambling also leads to mental illness, so, should Op also wonder about banning gambling in countries where youths are going crazily in debt due to problem gambling? With all these odds surrounding gambling, a person or gambler must have done something remarkably wrong to be banned from using gambling. Which may have nothing to do with his dressing.
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If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers

The gambling owner never allow the person with unsound mind,because most probably they will fight with the gambling site.They never realized the importance of the gambling site,they will fight without any proof with the gambling site.So the gambling site will delete Or ban their account because of the unprofessional behavior because of less sound of mind.The reason itself help us to earn more money by the technical skills in the gambling site.The physical activity and apperance was not the important factor here.Because the most brilliant person in the many sector will look like the simple person till they prove their own business skills in the gambling site.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.
If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers
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However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.

I disagree with you. Someone who is not mentally stable is not supposed to be allowed to gamble. I know there is no law that stops them from gambling or that says they should be rejected when they come to gamble, but to me, it doesn’t make sense. You don’t even know how they are getting the money they are gambling with. If someone is mentally unstable, they can do anything just to get money; they might end up hurting people just to get money. You don’t expect an unstable person to be given a job, so the question is, where are they getting the money they are using to gamble?
 
If you are running a business, there are some things you shouldn’t just do because of money, so you can allow an underage person to gamble at your place just because you don’t care, all you want is money. If you know that someone is unstable, then don’t allow them to gamble.

There is a quite difference between some who is mentally unstable and an underage. Even the gambling rules go against underage but does nothing about mentally unstable person. Something, being rough and dirty may not really mean is fully mentally unstable. He may look like that out of drug abuse. For him to have known how to make predictions and where to place a bet, means he still have some percentage of being mentally stable. I don't see anything bad in it placing bet for him since no rule against that in the country or the betting site.
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However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.

I disagree with you. Someone who is not mentally stable is not supposed to be allowed to gamble. I know there is no law that stops them from gambling or that says they should be rejected when they come to gamble, but to me, it doesn’t make sense. You don’t even know how they are getting the money they are gambling with. If someone is mentally unstable, they can do anything just to get money; they might end up hurting people just to get money. You don’t expect an unstable person to be given a job, so the question is, where are they getting the money they are using to gamble?
 
If you are running a business, there are some things you shouldn’t just do because of money, so you can allow an underage person to gamble at your place just because you don’t care, all you want is money. If you know that someone is unstable, then don’t allow them to gamble.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Mentally unstable people in my opinion, shouldn’t be allowed to gamble as they’re literally not stable mentally. But In the case you stated, how can we really tell that person is mentally unstable?
Understandably, we can form an opinion based on information we’ve got and based on the looks, one could easily conclude about his mental state.

“Do not judge a book by its cover”. I’ve found this to be extremely accurate as things are not always as they appear to be.
Everyone seems to be fine with the “mentally unstable” man playing and he behaves himself better than a lot of supposedly mentally sane people. The establishment also doesn’t mind taking his money and letting him gamble.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
I suppose it could be done but it will be way more difficult and expensive than what it may seem at first glance, since this will require for a psychiatrist to diagnose a person and then that person should be added to a database that all casinos around the country use to forbid those people to gamble, but even if that system was put in place it will be incredibly easy to get around it, as the only thing you will have to do is to avoid being diagnosed so you can gamble as much as you want anyway.
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If every gambling shop starts to crosscheck gamblers by the way they dress before they can gamble, would you think they will be having inflow and outflow of gamblers every given day without them losing thousands of customers coming to gamble in their gambling shops due to the way they dress?

For every gambling shop you see, expect to see unkempt dressers, the reasonable and unreasonable individuals in the gambling house, and every one of them acts according to why they are there, to gamble and leave without causing a nuisance. However, no gambling shop prohibits someone who is shabbily dressed from coming in. Everyone is allowed to come in the way they are as long as they are well-behaved.
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I don't think bet companies will consider baring a mentally unstable person who is well-behaved not to gamble in their physically established shop, if not that the bet cashier knew who the man was, it would be very difficult for anyone to identify such a person's mentally status, for me as long as the person can come into the bet hall and stake his or her bet without obstructing the people from doing the needful, stop in such person will amount to violation of his or her human right, no law has been enacted by the government to function to that effect, in conclusion they should be allowed if they can comport themselves.
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I was surprised when I read the post title. There's nothing wrong if someone who is mentally unstable wants to gamble.
did anybody say it's wrong for a mentally derailed person to gamble? .... Okay, if anyone said so, atleast not me... I don't think there's any problem with that.... But, how's he even gonna coordinate his thinking to choose his tickets and odds?? Basically, I feel the best predictions come from peeps who are updated with a team's current performance -- if so, then that brings another question... Do we have local viewing centers for mentally derailed people to watch livegames??... I don't believe in the fact that people are being told how to bet in their dreams - especially, the said set of people.

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Sometimes, what you see is not what you get. You can never judge a person just by mere seeing his physical looks. You can't criticize him  being mentally unstable just because he wears dirty and stinky clothes. Except if he does crime or illicit activities near or inside the betting shop, then he should be banned and not allowed to bet.

Everyone is free to gamble and chose their desired bets regardless of his physical or mental condition. As long as he knows how to control it and is able to gamble without breaking the rules, then he should be welcome to gamble.
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Some betting operators and bet shop owners do not care who they take money from for bets, so long as their pockets are enriched. It is not proper.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
It is a very thin line between a homeless person and a mentally unstable person, sometimes you may mistake a man who is just homeless and leaves on the streets to be a mad or mentally unstable person, but it is not always true.

A homeless person has little hope, and betting or gambling and hoping to win may just be the last hope they have to at least get something from this life, If you think of it somehow, it can be sad to take away that last hope that they have got.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
From the OP, it’s obvious that not dressing properly doesn’t define the mental state of a person. Saying the individual in question acted in ways that are becoming to society with the exception of his dressing says he’s stable at least.

He doesn’t still,
Don’t go about begging for aids,
Tries he’s hands on some gambling to earn or maybe distract himself and
Works a job to raise funds.

Just how would he be to not be insane. Perhaps it’s possible we could see an insane person that is properly dressed. Can we?
Anyway, he places his bets, pays for it and coexists with the rest of the world peacefully, that’s cool.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Who are you to judge a person like that? Maybe he was just having a bad day, or maybe he does not care to keep his hair to your standards? People go around in all sorts of fashion these days, what happens if he was a handyman that had just finished his hard day at work and wanted to place a couple bets? You should not be so quick to make assumptions about peoples lives, I've come across a few millionaires that act very frugally and don't spend money on things like high end fashion, but they are still very intelligent people. The story that he gives the staff may also just be cover, he could be very well off and perfectly normal. Nothing you've mentioned is what I would class as a mentally unstable person, it could just be someone who never got taught personal hygiene properly or doesn't care to wear cleaner clothes that you might like.
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