Topic: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? - page 20. (Read 2528 times)

You shouldn't conclude yet that the man is mentally unstable. Just as you said, the physical bet shop attendant said the gambler has never misbehaved before, and the gambler is into manual jobs, so maybe he just left the work place and hasn't gotten home to clean himself yet. After closing from work, he might just decide to gamble before going home to clean himself. So just because you see someone dirty entering a physical bet shop doesn't mean the person is not mentally stable. And you ask the shop attendant, and she says the gambler hasn't behaved abnormally before, so I guess the person might be fine.

I don't think mentally unstable people are supposed to be allowed to gamble, it doesn't really make any sense to me. If you are a betting shop attendant and you see anyone who you think or you are sure is mentally unstable trying to gamble, then you should stop the person from gambling and not allow them to place their bet at your shop.

Privacy ought to be maintain and we should be very busy and strict in whatever things we do in the system. Gamble is not my thing right from the early previous years, I was in gambling and couldn't connect any solid modes othe than sticking and doing what we call copy gambling, which I never was granted fulltime permission from my top colleagues that knows how the system operates. We learn to mind our business in this modern generation and if we witnessed what we don't like, we better inform the user ontime or better tolerate their actions and fall back to another transmissions.

With this you remembered to me some really strange persons which were not that mentally unstable but they were working in construction sites and as soon as they finished they come completely in dust and dirty clothes to place their bets in the lotto club.At that time I used to go every weekend in that lotto club and although they were not unstable mentally at all,they were "fighting" with each other in a funny situation where Inter Milan lost and every body were watching the game on TV,the sons told to their father which were a fan of Inter that you will never again watch Inter on TV  .

I think everyone should be given the chance to gamble as long as they want it.

Not everyone who wear suits are perfectly alright or rich as they pretend to be so the same should be applied for the exact opposite too, we should not judge someone's mental health ability just because the clothes were dirty, well I understand why you thought like that but this 2020 era has been different and people do uncommon things.


This is more complicated than it sounds and it depends on the jurisdiction of the casino, if its a regulated casino then they will more likely not let them bet if the person is not capable of making their decisions straight and its protected under promoting responsible gambling and duty of care but if the person is capable of understanding what is happening and he got money to bet then banning the person will become discrimination and lead to a different issue.

The problem is, they do not care about morals. They do not care about who is playing. If you have money, you are allowed to play there. If you do not have money, you are likely to be kicked out. There are rules about under age people. But, I am not sure if there are any rules about mentally unstable people. Even if they had the rules, they simply decided not to follow the rules. If someone complaints about it, they may take care of it. Otherwise, they will continue allow people like that to play on their house. The only way to stop them is take legal action. They will be forced to stop allowing him. All the houses want your money. They are already used to seeing how people lose their everything. So, they don't feel the pain anymore. The skin get thicker everytime they see new people losing their everything.

Perhaps his condition would have worsened if he had been prevented from practicing his hobby of gambling. The shop owner told you that he did not do anything wrong in the shop and that he does manual labor to earn money, which he uses to play games. I do not see anything wrong with this, nor any reason to pass a law that prevents him and others like him from gambling, especially since they do not harm anyone, not even themselves.
Quite the opposite, there are people of sound mind who commit atrocities because of their love of gambling and their addiction to it.

It's strange why this man often gambles and often goes to gambling houses even though his mental state is not good. Even if I was there, I might not be able to stop him because who knows, he might already be addicted to gambling, so no one can stop him, not even an officer at the gambling house. don't forbid him, after all what right do we have to forbid him from wanting to gamble, isn't he gambling using his own money, not our money, I think if we forbid him it will invade his privacy, it's better to just let him gamble and maybe advise him a little, I think that's better

You have got your point and if that person is not doing any wrong in terms of the gambling user's and agreement, he should be able to continue enjoying the game, in the sense of unstable mentally, that's another thing since it's only the person itself who justify things in the manner that he's dealing with his gambling activities, and same with your argument, it can be a discrimination if the person is not doing any bad things that may affect other people or the house itself.

Judging from looks, the guy may seem to be shabby but on the side, he is very normal but doesn't know how to dress to look good. I have seen people like that most times in some local bet shops. Some of them just came from their place of work. Which may be some kind of dirty manual jobs. So instead of going home and changing up, which would take them some time. They rather enter the local bet shop bet their game and leave.

There is this saying "Don't judge a book by its cover".

However, in my opinion, mentally unstable persons should not be allowed to gamble. Since they are mentally drained they can never control their emotions when they win or lose. They may cause havoc in the local bet shop.

Problem is knowing if you are really mentally stable. Not because you function on a normal basis would already classify you as mentally stable; being one means you are confident with controlling your own emotions, and other aspects of you. If OP refers to people who are diagnosed with mental health conditions and disorders, then that's actually a no. They might be able to divert their attention but they are more prone with addiction on the same instance. But on our ends even if we are often encountering emotional distress, we can still gamble; managing your betting habits will be another story.
As kong as he thinks rationally, then it would be fine 'coz he will still be aware of what is right and what is wrong or when to stop and continue. With being prone to addiction, it depends on your mindset as a gambler. If you are taking too much risk on a daily basis, then you should avoid this industry.  Entertainment is far different from vices and that is the bottomline between these two.
What about the consequences of losing? Gambling is not only for entertainment 'coz if that's so there are for sure other outlets for enjoyment such as console games which are alike with it and not involving real money which could even yield to debt if they'd be lacking sense of control on their losses.

It's simple, even someone with a good mentality can become ugly just because of gambling, let alone someone with a bad mentality.

I quite understand people like that, someone who has a mental disorder tends to be a little stubborn, they will be determined to enter the casino even though it has been forbidden.
And it would be better if casino officials prevented the person from coming, considering that the person has a mental disorder and financial limitations, because instead of the person wasting their money on gambling, it would be better if the person used the money for more useful things, such as for buy decent clothes and food.

Right, I think it goes back to the casinos themselves about whether they allow people like that or especially those who look alarming and a little suspicious to get involved in gambling or not, if there is absolutely no regulation then obviously like you said it means it is allowed. But sometimes even if there is no such regulation sometimes some officers are very likely to prohibit it and drive it out, although sometimes we can't judge a person in terms of his appearance but sometimes it doesn't hurt to be suspicious.

Because on the other hand I'm sure the officers' mind is on the comfort of all the patrons there, which is why I think it's possible that some officers will kick him out even though there is basically no rule against it because it's very likely that there will be chaos committed by that person if he really has a mental disorder and obviously it will disturb most of the patrons who are there.

Gambling is for everyone. I believe if that person life is not being affected badly then I don’t find the need to ban them on gambling which probably gave them entertainment despite they have some mental problem.

In your example, the subject is a regular which means he is doing it for a long time without any problem. The situation might be worst if you stop them playing which they regularly do since they are mentally unstable.

More importantly on this topic. If mentally unstable still can enjoy the game then they should be allowed to play or else they will be discriminated.

No, you can " never judge the book by its cover".. That's the Dhar Mann vibes. But seriously, as long as the person is behaving, he should be allowed to gamble, it's entertainment after all, right? so everyone deserves to be entertain as long as he can pay the play.

I didn't see any where it was written on your comments that you comfirm if he was mentally unstable, the attendants only assume base on his dressing and it's really bad of you guys to assumed that a person is a mad person or mentally by the way they look and dress. You can see a person looking unhygienic and unkept and that's could be a s a result of the job they do, as you as said he does a manual job during the days and it might be one of the reason why he is looking like that in appearance.

If a mentally deranged and unstable person is gambling, it's his choice because I don't think he was force, wasn't told to come and gamble by force, if he wanted to buy something to eat, I think any person can sell it to him don't have to be questioned, the same apply to gambling and gambling is a service that can be render to any person who need one.

However, for the humanity sake. If I know that the person is mentally unstable, I will avoid giving rendering service to him because I'm not sure any person who isn't in his right senses will gamble an win, they can be lucky to win but the chance of winning will be small compared to a person that is mentally okay, even a person that is stable hardly win talk more of a person that is having sparks on their head.

and in the first place, how can you say that such person is mentally unstable? maybe, it is just the way he is. as long as he is not causing any trouble to anyone, i guess, there's no reason to stop him from enjoying his game. this particular case is very subjective, unless, you really know that person about his mental history and all. otherwise, leave him to what he wants. there's no law stating that mentally unstable or whatever a person is, can't enjoy his life via gambling.

According to the attendant, if you refer to this as a regular customer, that means that what you say "mentally unstable" is no longer appropriate, as if he plays normally and still knows what he is doing, because he can still gamble well.

As long as it's normal to play gambling, there's no problem there; maybe you just said that it's because of his physical condition, appearance, and clothes. I don't think it's right.

Depends, how unstable are we talking about? If they're just raging so much but they're not damaging the casino property or themselves, I think they can still play but if they're not and they have the tendency to hurt others then it's probably the time that you're not allowing them to play, it's unlikely that you can do a wellness check in online gambling so they're probably flocking there and making the casinos a lot of money because they're not meant for restraining themselves on how much they want to spend on gambling.

The shop can allow everyone who wanted to gamble and it is their rights to let them bet and a rights also of those mentally unstable people.

They have money, then know whom/which to bet , they are not hurting anyone so let them bet, if I am to answer this? i will not give any arguing in their rights .
let them gamble guys .

So you literally stalked this unknown man, observed every of his steps and had a close eye on his activities, judged his coordinative ability and condition, listened to how loud or quiet he was and came to the concusion that everything is fine after inquiring of that reception lady what's going on? She really gave you that private information the same way you presented us with?

What I don't understand is at what point did you find out that person is mentally unstable? And do you play the stalking version of Sherlock Holmes more often in other sceneries? Do you consider stalking a gambler mentally stable?

I really had to read your post three times to figure out what is going on here. What would you suggest if we leave aside most of the nonsense and deal with the question whether mentally unstable people should be allowed to gamble? Everyone brings an attestation from a doctor? Who decides whether someone is mentally unstable? You, with your outstandingly investigative and in the academic world widely approved Sherlock Holmes approach?

Excuse me, but your post raises a lot of questions, lol!