Should online gambling companies be responsible for harm related activities?

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Quote from: jostorres on August 15, 2021, 01:20:21 PM

Quote from: South Park on August 15, 2021, 11:40:24 AM

I do not think that banning gambling will reduce addictions related to it at all, as those people are still going to find ways to gamble, whether this is done by gambling at illegal casinos or gambling online they will still gamble, so banning gambling only has negatives, the governments lose taxes they need right now, people lose the freedom to decide when and how much to gamble if at all, while those that are addicted now not only have their addiction going but now owe money to dangerous people.

Yeah, gamblers are known for innovating their own new methods to continue their gambling regardless of whatever kind of restrictions imposed to them or to access to gambling. Because, gambling addictions are that kind of severe one which will urge them to find out ways to breach any kind of restrictions. Hence, I am not thinking that gambling houses are responsible for gambler's addictions or for any kind of losses incurred during gambling. Yeah, it is all about the basic responsibilities of individual gamblers.

The more theyre restricted the more that they are dedicated on finding new ways on dealing with gambling specially if they are already get addicted.I dont see the reason on why gambling companies should really be

taking the blame if someone do really get addicted on by playing?Its just a pure bullshit for people who do have this kind of idea or to someone who had been badly affected on the effects of addiction.

You would surely be finding someone for you to blame on the time that you are experiencing some hardship on live because of a particular thing.

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Quote from: South Park on August 15, 2021, 11:40:24 AM

I do not think that banning gambling will reduce addictions related to it at all, as those people are still going to find ways to gamble, whether this is done by gambling at illegal casinos or gambling online they will still gamble, so banning gambling only has negatives, the governments lose taxes they need right now, people lose the freedom to decide when and how much to gamble if at all, while those that are addicted now not only have their addiction going but now owe money to dangerous people.

Yeah, gamblers are known for innovating their own new methods to continue their gambling regardless of whatever kind of restrictions imposed to them or to access to gambling. Because, gambling addictions are that kind of severe one which will urge them to find out ways to breach any kind of restrictions. Hence, I am not thinking that gambling houses are responsible for gambler's addictions or for any kind of losses incurred during gambling. Yeah, it is all about the basic responsibilities of individual gamblers.

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Quote from: madnessteat on August 11, 2021, 10:21:45 AM

I am not a supporter of the fact that casinos are guilty of gambling addiction to society, but I quite understand the point of view of those who think so. On the one hand, if we ban gambling activities, it should reduce the level of gambling addiction, which will have a positive impact on society. But on the other hand banning casinos violates our freedom of choice. I think there will never be a compromise in this debate.

I do not think that banning gambling will reduce addictions related to it at all, as those people are still going to find ways to gamble, whether this is done by gambling at illegal casinos or gambling online they will still gamble, so banning gambling only has negatives, the governments lose taxes they need right now, people lose the freedom to decide when and how much to gamble if at all, while those that are addicted now not only have their addiction going but now owe money to dangerous people.

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These sort of arguments are just a mask to impose government surveillance everywhere. If someone is suffering from gambling addiction, then it is his duty, and the duty of the psychiatrist who is treating him to keep him away from the gambling websites. This is similar to saying that Mikhail Kalashnikov should be prosecuted for the Taliban advance in Afghanistan, since most of the terrorists are using AK-47 rifles. If the religious nuts have their way, then they will prohibit gambling, porn, alcohol, tobacco and even cinemas. Gambling addicts doesn't represent the ordinary gambler.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 12, 2021, 09:59:51 AM

Actually being addicted to gambling is common and I don't see any negative with that as long as they do well outside their gambling activity. There are lots of gamblers who always loses but still a better person in real world.

Gambling addiction is common but this is only for people who have no control and didnt set limit on how much money are they're going to spend in gambling. The problem is if you became addicted it also affect your mental, physical and social status (so there's no way to do good in other activities) because you're focus on gambling and probably the eagerness to get back the money you lost.

Its not the casino's fault since they're only providing a platform to entertain ourselves and a chance to earn. The gambler itself is responsible for his act and should be aware of the possible consequences if he let himself be drown in gambling activity.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 12, 2021, 09:59:51 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on August 12, 2021, 06:51:29 AM

They are asking to read and agree there T&C before player can sign up and play. People with addiction should visit psychiatrist rather than gambling.

And also there is no way for an online casino to stop player with addiction problem since they don't have any idea on the condition of there player.

There's no gambler that will visit a psychiatrist or same level to consult their addiction.

There's no stopping them to gamble unless someone will refer them to a professional person to have a consultation or they will fight the addiction by themselves.

Actually being addicted to gambling is common and I don't see any negative with that as long as they do well outside their gambling activity. There are lots of gamblers who always loses but still a better person in real world.

The problem of addiction is when the affected person gets into trouble, their life gets out of control, and they usually have problems even with their own family, they sink into alcohol, drugs, among other bad things, because it is the way out they see the most. next for not having available the money that was spent to meet their basic needs.

From the traditional casinos, they have always existed at some point and these problems had been treated by the same people in some way, I think that the people who enter the casino games are under their own responsibility, that is why they must be older than age, the responsibility of the casinos by the addictors is something that falls but not 100%.

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Quote from: hahay on August 11, 2021, 11:27:32 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on August 11, 2021, 11:12:35 PM

You are lucky enough do not to get any worse experience in your first time playing gambling.
But other people can get a worse experience in gambling but that does not make them stop searching the other gambling site because they think that the other site will not do the same.
When they use the other gambling site, they can have fun playing the game and feel a different experience than the previous site, which makes them stay and play for more.
I think I watch ads show about winning $100 with a simple method in gambling but I do not trust it Grin

Advertising is just a promotion that is of course made as attractive as possible in order to attract many customers, whereas when we gamble a big effort to win must still be deployed because to win big in gambling is not as easy as imagined. But still, even if you see ads that win with just a simple method, but the company doesn't advertise anything about being responsible for losing its customers. Indeed, sometimes companies make promotions about cashback after being wagered or something like how much money has been spent, but that doesn't last forever so we need to be aware of and take responsibility for the choices we make in gambling and as much as possible be aware of stop and go times.

Many people are attracted to gambling because of advertising everywhere and many of them are playing without thinking what the impact they can get from gambling.
The gambling companies invite them to play gambling, but they warn their customers to always be careful and have responsibility for themselves.
Unfortunately, those gamblers seem not to care about the warning and are not aware of it and still gamble because they want to win.
The promotion about cashback is the way to attract gamblers to come back but the gamblers need to know the risk if they come back to play gambling.

Quote from: Pamadar on August 12, 2021, 06:26:07 AM

Quote from: traderethereum on August 10, 2021, 11:44:31 PM

Unfortunately, the gamblers are not responsible for what they did in gambling and they still continue gambling without stop.
The gamblers get attracted to the casino because their mind always thinks about how to win the games.
The casino did great work to temp the gamblers to come back to their place and tempted them to deposit more money because that means their business becomes bigger.
If the gamblers know how to responsibly while playing gambling, they will not get tempted and they can playing gambling properly without wanting to chase the win money.

Indeed! if the gambler is responsible, they can enjoy without chasing that win,

Apparently, most of the gamblers who got attached are those who feel greedy, thinking that the win that they made can always be duplicated by more wins. If they are only concerned with how addiction will hit them up, they might not get that too much engagement to this business, just a simple part of entertainment and not to exceed to that.

Greediness will always be on the gambler's side, but if they know about greed, they will prevent it from becoming bigger and eradicate it in many ways.
Currently, not many gamblers can reduce their greed when they win money instead of still trying to win more money from gambling.
Sooner or later, they will become more addicted to gambling without knowing when to solve the problem.
If they know how to play gambling to get fun, they will not become addicted.

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Quote from: Macadonian on August 11, 2021, 04:40:53 PM

Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them.

Almost all genuine cryptocurrency gambling sites of these days have the "begambleaware" added to their site just to keep gamblers inform with the perfect advice treatment and to also talk to someone about their gambling stats in other to prevent addiction but how many gamblers use it?

Quote from: Macadonian on August 11, 2021, 04:40:53 PM

I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.

If gambling sites don't monitor their users deposit and withdrawal limits they won't have instructed their users to do KYC when withdrawing a huge fund. I think it will be unfair if we put all this burden on gambling sites when the addicted gamblers are not helping themselves.

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Quote from: Beparanf on August 12, 2021, 06:51:29 AM

They are asking to read and agree there T&C before player can sign up and play. People with addiction should visit psychiatrist rather than gambling.

And also there is no way for an online casino to stop player with addiction problem since they don't have any idea on the condition of there player.

There's no gambler that will visit a psychiatrist or same level to consult their addiction.

There's no stopping them to gamble unless someone will refer them to a professional person to have a consultation or they will fight the addiction by themselves.

Actually being addicted to gambling is common and I don't see any negative with that as long as they do well outside their gambling activity. There are lots of gamblers who always loses but still a better person in real world.

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Are you equally saying they should be held responsible for your loses while playing gambling? I do believe that they not to be held responsible for any effect playing gambling must have cost you in any way for they are doing their legitimate business and you are participating in other to make profit of which they are in business for the same profit too. How many government has been held responsible for road accident as a result of potholes on the road.

Yeah right, Some people used to blame casino as last resort whenever they are loss especially those who have a mental condition like severe gambling. Casino is not a charity so there main goal and wish is for player to loss there money so that they gain profit out of it regardless on what is the user condition. They are asking to read and agree there T&C before player can sign up and play. People with addiction should visit psychiatrist rather than gambling.

And also there is no way for an online casino to stop player with addiction problem since they don't have any idea on the condition of there player.

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Quote from: traderethereum on August 10, 2021, 11:44:31 PM

Unfortunately, the gamblers are not responsible for what they did in gambling and they still continue gambling without stop.
The gamblers get attracted to the casino because their mind always thinks about how to win the games.
The casino did great work to temp the gamblers to come back to their place and tempted them to deposit more money because that means their business becomes bigger.
If the gamblers know how to responsibly while playing gambling, they will not get tempted and they can playing gambling properly without wanting to chase the win money.

Indeed! if the gambler is responsible, they can enjoy without chasing that win,

Apparently, most of the gamblers who got attached are those who feel greedy, thinking that the win that they made can always be duplicated by more wins. If they are only concerned with how addiction will hit them up, they might not get that too much engagement to this business, just a simple part of entertainment and not to exceed to that.

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Depending on the license, they must meet certain requirements. Whether they all do that is another matter. Because someone who is addicted to gambling, with a big bank account, those are the easiest customers of course. I don't know to what extent governments monitor this. And what the consequences are, I think just a warning.

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Quote from: traderethereum on August 11, 2021, 11:12:35 PM

Quote from: worldofcoins on August 11, 2021, 02:10:11 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on August 09, 2021, 10:41:59 PM

Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.

When I started gambling even I didn't look at the company's terms and services but went straight to gambling in my case I didn't have any problems with the providers I chose could be lucky.

Another point you made regarding playing for fun but not for making money is quite the opposite of what most people will think about it, The ads the I'm seeing about gambling apps is that they show you "A guy made 100 USD and went to a restaurant with his girl", lol

You are lucky enough do not to get any worse experience in your first time playing gambling.
But other people can get a worse experience in gambling but that does not make them stop searching the other gambling site because they think that the other site will not do the same.
When they use the other gambling site, they can have fun playing the game and feel a different experience than the previous site, which makes them stay and play for more.
I think I watch ads show about winning $100 with a simple method in gambling but I do not trust it Grin

Advertising is just a promotion that is of course made as attractive as possible in order to attract many customers, whereas when we gamble a big effort to win must still be deployed because to win big in gambling is not as easy as imagined. But still, even if you see ads that win with just a simple method, but the company doesn't advertise anything about being responsible for losing its customers. Indeed, sometimes companies make promotions about cashback after being wagered or something like how much money has been spent, but that doesn't last forever so we need to be aware of and take responsibility for the choices we make in gambling and as much as possible be aware of stop and go times.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on August 11, 2021, 02:10:11 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on August 09, 2021, 10:41:59 PM

Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.

When I started gambling even I didn't look at the company's terms and services but went straight to gambling in my case I didn't have any problems with the providers I chose could be lucky.

Another point you made regarding playing for fun but not for making money is quite the opposite of what most people will think about it, The ads the I'm seeing about gambling apps is that they show you "A guy made 100 USD and went to a restaurant with his girl", lol

You are lucky enough do not to get any worse experience in your first time playing gambling.
But other people can get a worse experience in gambling but that does not make them stop searching the other gambling site because they think that the other site will not do the same.
When they use the other gambling site, they can have fun playing the game and feel a different experience than the previous site, which makes them stay and play for more.
I think I watch ads show about winning $100 with a simple method in gambling but I do not trust it Grin

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Quote from: Macadonian on August 11, 2021, 04:40:53 PM

Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them. I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.

Every gambling site used to mention gambling is subject to risk and it is their own risk to spend on gambling. Maybe this could make people to linit them in terms of spending. When someone is restricted to spend/deposit he might also move to the next platform. Because, addiction can be controlled only if the user himself is ready.

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Quote from: Macadonian on August 11, 2021, 04:40:53 PM

Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them. I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.

The fact that they would really be preferring for those players to get addicted because this simply means that it would really be their advantage since people would really be spending something past into their limits
which means it really an add up revenue for them but if they dont really intent to make people addicted but still its a self will type of action on where people do commit out such mistake or addiction.
Gambling companies shouldnt really be blamed off and i dont see a point on why they would really be trying to resolved out a personal type of problem.

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Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them. I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 11, 2021, 05:28:51 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on August 10, 2021, 05:52:32 PM

You'll never change that fact and idea that there's really a source that can be seen in gambling. But this is only for those people that have been on it for a long time, not for those newbies that just saw how others made huge profit on it and then they'll also think it will be the same for them. And it's already on the gambler how he's going to make himself comfortable as he gambles but just don't blame the casino, it's their business and gambling results are known that the house always win and every lose that we make is already anticipated as this is gambling.

You'll never see gambling as an entertainment unless you're a very wealthy man, that's the truth. Automatically those normal people who play gambling would always be after the profit, they do gambling as a living, that's why gambling also makes a living on them. But we never blame the gambling sites, instead we should blame ourselves, or none at all because what we are doing (keep on trying) means we still do hope we could make a living.

Yes, it's half good and half bad depending on someone's situation.

I agree that's for sure for those people that are wealthy. They only see it as entertainment but many are keep on reiterating that it's only for fun but the reality is there really are those people that go with it as a source because they've experienced it and they're firm in that belief and we cannot change that fact. It is what's not being considered by them as they only say that it's for entertainment but the fact is always there and that's why there are people that got addicted to it and that harm isn't from the casino but it's their decision and has chosen it.

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Quote from: traderethereum on August 09, 2021, 10:41:59 PM

Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.

When I started gambling even I didn't look at the company's terms and services but went straight to gambling in my case I didn't have any problems with the providers I chose could be lucky.

Another point you made regarding playing for fun but not for making money is quite the opposite of what most people will think about it, The ads the I'm seeing about gambling apps is that they show you "A guy made 100 USD and went to a restaurant with his girl", lol

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I am not a supporter of the fact that casinos are guilty of gambling addiction to society, but I quite understand the point of view of those who think so. On the one hand, if we ban gambling activities, it should reduce the level of gambling addiction, which will have a positive impact on society. But on the other hand banning casinos violates our freedom of choice. I think there will never be a compromise in this debate.

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