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Topic: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - page 31. (Read 50157 times)

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http://www.businessinsider.com/heroin-flow-through-africa-2015-3


No it's not looking good for heroin addicts in the West, I remember watching a speech from the ex UK ambassador to Uzbekistan (think it was on the Real News Network) and he reported see dozens of US military trucks fully loaded with opium. Kind of flies in the face of the official War on Drugs.
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This was written for him to be happened as every bad action will bring just bad and negative in life.Unfortunately,he used Bitcoin which was and is very innovative currency for his short cut to be rich and brought bad impression about it too.This could be lesson for many people to do just good things and live happily among their loved ones.
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Finally, the wrong deeds were given the right punishment as such a guy who ruined lives of people selling drugs, has his own life ruined forever now...
Who's life did he ruin selling drugs? the only drugs I've heard of him selling is some magic mushrooms in the early stages of silk road, he has his life ruined, yes you are correct there but he didn't ruin anyone Else's life, the people who bought and sold drugs on the site that lead to 6 confirmed deaths did that, all the guy did was make a website, a website that will cost him the rest of his life
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I know a couple people who have died from heroin OD's and several more who's lives have been ruined by their addiction...

Most of the world's H is supplied from Afghanistan...

Thanks a lot America .....................

Some government officials are making a serious killing off those opium fields.

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LOL I was thinking the same thing.

You want a couple of farmers to survive at the expense of thousands of overdosed drug users worldwide! ROFL

Not thousands of overdosed drug users. In Russian alone, Afghan heroin has killed around 2,000,000 people in the last 15 years (mostly in the 15-25 age group). In Iran also, hundreds of thousands have lost their lives. Similar are the figures in countries such as Ukraine, Moldova and Azerbaijan. This is one of the most successful CIA operations to date, having exterminated the entire generation of young people in Russia and Iran.

But we should not blame the Afghan farmers either. They receive only around $100 per year, as profits from this business. The remaining profits are pocketed by the middlemen. If there are 100,000 Afghan farmers cultivating opium poppy, an allowance of $100 per head is enough to stop the practice. Comes to $10 million per year. But it will never happen, as the NATO is forcing the farmers to cultivate poppy, instead of the preferred crops such as barley or wheat.
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IF they destroyed the crops they would take away the farmers livelihoods, which is something they didn't want to do. Is opium even illegal in Afghanistan? Also don't forget that Morphine and Codeine also come from those poppies.

Hey bud, you need serious reality check.

A reality check on what exactly? Care to elaborate?

IF they destroyed the crops they would take away the farmers livelihoods, which is something they didn't want to do. Is opium even illegal in Afghanistan? Also don't forget that Morphine and Codeine also come from those poppies.

Hey bud, you need serious reality check.

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

You want a couple of farmers to survive at the expense of thousands of overdosed drug users worldwide! ROFL

No, but the US gov does: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/world/asia/21marja.html?_r=0

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From Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal on down, the military’s position is clear: “U.S. forces no longer eradicate,” as one NATO official put it. Opium is the main livelihood of 60 to 70 percent of the farmers in Marja, which was seized from Taliban rebels in a major offensive last month.

Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about. It's also a lot more than 'a couple of farmers'. Try 200,000. And the US doesn't care about the millions that OD from prescription pills or alcohol so why is a few thousand dying from heroin such a big problem? It's also none of the US business what Afghan farmers do.
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IF they destroyed the crops they would take away the farmers livelihoods, which is something they didn't want to do. Is opium even illegal in Afghanistan? Also don't forget that Morphine and Codeine also come from those poppies.

Hey bud, you need serious reality check.

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

You want a couple of farmers to survive at the expense of thousands of overdosed drug users worldwide! ROFL
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IF they destroyed the crops they would take away the farmers livelihoods, which is something they didn't want to do. Is opium even illegal in Afghanistan? Also don't forget that Morphine and Codeine also come from those poppies.

Hey bud, you need serious reality check.
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I agree with the unjustice in most, if not all drug laws, but that is another level of discussion. There is already a ongoing political debate in Europe about the cannabis laws for example, which might lead to the legality of cannabis in a few years.

Maybe one or two countries may legalize it or decriminalize it but it'll be a long-time before countries like the UK or Germany do. All the major parties of the UK gov are against legalization for some reason as far as I'm aware.

Ross Ullbricht sent to life in prison (without parole) for putting up a marketplace, where people could purchase drugs. OK. Got that. Now you judge what should be the quantum of punishment to be given to these guys:

An Afghan man harvests opium in a poppy field while US soldiers look on in a village in Golestan district, Farah province, Afghanistan:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

When the US government actively participates in heroin trafficking, it is not a crime. But when some ordinary person tries to make weed available to everyone, it is a horrendous crime.

IF they destroyed the crops they would take away the farmers livelihoods, which is something they didn't want to do. Is opium even illegal in Afghanistan? Also don't forget that Morphine and Codeine also come from those poppies.
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When the US government actively participates in heroin trafficking, it is not a crime. But when some ordinary person tries to make weed available to everyone, it is a horrendous crime.

Everything told in just one sentence... That's the essence of a problem.
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Im not well informed about that opium deal, but i guess they cant interfere with other country's laws..

The Taliban had eradicated the cultivation of opium poppy in Afghanistan. However, this was re-introduced by the NATO troops, who overthrew the Taliban regime. The Russian agencies are claiming that NATO is even sponsoring fertilizer and pesticides for the poppy fields. So the Afghan opium has nothing to do with respecting local laws and customs.

You should look into I2P and already permanent, working decentralized anonymous markets like SlingRoad. 

Please tell me whether I2P is 100% anonymous or not. If it can be compromised like TOR, then there is no use in installing it.
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In the end he knew about the strict drug laws in the US and he still broke it.
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Finally, the wrong deeds were given the right punishment as such a guy who ruined lives of people selling drugs, has his own life ruined forever now...

We cant run a nanny state as it is expensive for society.  Bitcoin itself is partly designed so the person takes control of the security of his/her money so society can benefit from not having to take responsibility.  It sucks that anyone should even bother taking stuff like heroine but once they;d made that choice we'd be better off treating it as a health issue.  We are just creating more violence and black markets making drugs criminal.
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Ross Ullbricht sent to life in prison (without parole) for putting up a marketplace, where people could purchase drugs. OK. Got that. Now you judge what should be the quantum of punishment to be given to these guys:

An Afghan man harvests opium in a poppy field while US soldiers look on in a village in Golestan district, Farah province, Afghanistan:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

When the US government actively participates in heroin trafficking, it is not a crime. But when some ordinary person tries to make weed available to everyone, it is a horrendous crime.

Not only that, opium harvests in Afghanistan have been getting larger year after year under US occupation, it's now at an all time high:

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Opium cultivation has risen 7% year on year to 224,000 hectares, and production in 2014 may reach 6,400 tonnes – a 17% increase – according to a report by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC).
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/12/afghan-opium-crop-record-high-united-nations

What's even more embarrassing is is that the local opium economy employs more people (over 400,000) than the Afghan national security forces. Even the UK ambassador has come out endorsing its legalisation:

"If we cannot deal effectively with supply, then the only alternative would seem to be to try to limit the demand for illicit drugs by making a supply of them available from a legally regulated market."

So in other words, they need marketplaces like SilkRoad...

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You mistake the purpose of this life sentence. It's not to punish Ross Ulbricht, it's to intimidate all the other potential Ross Ulbrichts out there.

And it's not going to work, because the Silk Road was very useful and therefore very profitable. In capitalism profit finds a way to be made, just as water always finds a way downhill.

The TOR is not anonymous anymore. A large number of the TOR relays are controlled by the CIA, which helps them to identify the darknet users. So, until a new anonymization method is found, not many are going to follow Ross's lead. That means that the authorities have achieved a temporary success. But eventually, a new method will be found and the CIA / FBI won't be able to do anything about it. And then, people like Ross Ulbricht and Blake Benthall will be revered as heroes, who stood up against the system.

You should look into I2P and already permanent, working decentralized anonymous markets like SlingRoad.





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Ross Ullbricht sent to life in prison (without parole) for putting up a marketplace, where people could purchase drugs. OK. Got that. Now you judge what should be the quantum of punishment to be given to these guys:

An Afghan man harvests opium in a poppy field while US soldiers look on in a village in Golestan district, Farah province, Afghanistan:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

When the US government actively participates in heroin trafficking, it is not a crime. But when some ordinary person tries to make weed available to everyone, it is a horrendous crime.

Im not well informed about that opium deal, but i guess they cant interfere with other country's laws..
Regarding R.U. ; well look, its not like he was only selling (enabling the sale) of weed, there was a sh*tload of terrible stuff there.
Like i said, they skinned him alive as an example, and im pretty sure many people will back off from similar activity once they see what happened to him.
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Ross Ullbricht sent to life in prison (without parole) for putting up a marketplace, where people could purchase drugs. OK. Got that. Now you judge what should be the quantum of punishment to be given to these guys:

An Afghan man harvests opium in a poppy field while US soldiers look on in a village in Golestan district, Farah province, Afghanistan:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

When the US government actively participates in heroin trafficking, it is not a crime. But when some ordinary person tries to make weed available to everyone, it is a horrendous crime.
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