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philipma1957

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good btc numbers for all of us.

Quote from: TheYankeesWin! on November 19, 2017, 11:33:21 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 10, 2017, 11:10:43 AM

Quote from: gbBit on November 10, 2017, 10:24:10 AM

Quote from: gbBit on November 10, 2017, 09:38:07 AM

Interesting point that you make. I don't track BCH prices and just mine BTC blindly. But I'm not to concern about the drop in price since it's going to be huge! A 35% difficulty reduction even at $6800 will be mean I'm mining and making $9180 in today's value. We can go all the way back to $4500 before I would start to show any concern.

So what happen here??? Am I wasting my time looking at bitcoin wisdom site? It was stating -35% step, but it ending up only being -6%. Can anyone explain this to me. Is the site not working anymore or was there a last minute push of hashrate just before difficulty was to update?

bitcoinwisdom is a joke for months.

If you look at the first post I said about -7%

if you want to it manually you can do it that way. which is what I did.
   1 block in 10 minutes = 0%
   6 blocks in 1 hour = 0%
144 blocks in 24 hours = 0%
2016 blocks in 2 weeks = 0%

we are at 2012 Blocks

493921 (Main Chain)   2017-11-10 15:19:38
493922 (Main Chain)   2017-11-10 15:33:53
493923 (Main Chain)   2017-11-10 16:03:25
493924 (Main Chain)   2017-11-10 16:09:13

4 blocks made in 50 minutes so far should be 5 blocks

that is really slow and a huge drop but only 4 blocks in.

so :

495107 (Main Chain) 2017-11-19 16:24:39

483921 (Main Chain) 2017-11-10 15:19:38

1136 blocks made in 9 days and 1 hour

9 x 144 = 1296

6 x 1 = 6

we should have 1302

this means 1136/1302 = 87.25% or -12.75% with 830 blocks left

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 19, 2017, 11:37:26 AM

Yeah pretty good drop so far.

Also coinbase is at 7777.77 usd on Nov 19th

and is was at 6900.00 usd on Nov 10TH

So if this were to hold until the last 830 blocks are made this jump

miners gain on diff 10% plus well it is -12.75% and - diff is a gain for miners

and on price 6900 to 7777 is also 12.75% price gain

so 1.1275 x 1.1275 = 1.27125 or 27.125% improvement if we stay steady

possible 27% gain for your asic mining setups

great fan controller

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MFJ-4230MV-COMPACT-SWITCH-PS-METER-4-16V-ADJ-110-220VAC-Free-S-H/152570940244?

will do 25 amps 24/7/365 that is 15 x 15 watt fans

http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-4230MV

had to gloat on this thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24856865

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Theranos Coin - IoT + micro-blood arrays = Moon!

Quote from: KaydenC on November 19, 2017, 09:13:01 AM

150W for cooling is too much. But at the same time, $18 x 7 for new fans is expensive too.

I think there's some 4pin pwm fan pins on the onda mobo on the top right? A cheap fan controller might work: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4RE5UX0433&cm_re=pwm_fan_controller-_-1W7-0053-00012-_-Product

I haven't had great luck with the cheap controllers, and if that is just expanding one PWM from the motherboard, it will draw a lot of power with 7 fans.

If it works for you, please report back.

I've used the Lamptron CF525 in 4U builds indoors. Not cheap, but works very well. I connect it back to the server PSU breakout board.

citronick

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Just saw this email from Canaan... A8?

Thanks for waiting patiently while we bring our newest product to market. Before I give you an update I need to collect some information from you. For some of you this will be simply be a repeat of information we already have, but please bear with us and kindly fill out the questionaire. The one question that is really important is about the nature of your business: I classify three types of business: Farm--you operate the miners for yourself only. Hosting-- you operate miners for customers. Resellers--you physically ship to customers who run the miners, basically distributors. Your business can be 1 or more of these types.

You will not be considered for product unless this form is filled out:
Fill out the form: Click here

We are now officially sold out of Avalon 741 for December, and will have some remaining 741 to ship in January 2018. We will contact people on the waiting list to see if they are still interested. Around the end of the month we should be able to announce the new 8 series of miners. At that time we will give out price and performance figures and a First Customer Ship date. The product will be on allocation, and looking at your forecasts it's clear that some will have to wait. We go over every account and will decide in December. For those of you waiting to hear about the distribution program please watch for future mails. We will probably add a few new distributors in January and then more throughout the rest of the year.

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Quote from: P00P135 on November 19, 2017, 10:56:54 AM

Quote from: citronick on November 19, 2017, 09:54:52 AM

The 9 slot board with PCI compute card - now together with the minions at the GPU farm.

Its still with smOS, so I will settle for ~480-490 sol/s with 200/700/120w with EWBF for now.

Tytanick says he will include the dstm miner in the coming build so will wait for that and bump the watts to 150w hopefully that will result in above 500 sols/s per card.
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This board looks nice. You have just enough room between cards they they can breath without having to use passive coolers and push pull case fans.

There is 20" fan behind that rig to ensure it all hot air pockets moves upwards.

The temps are 50c-60c-70c range - thanks to the back fans running 24x7

There are 2 more rigs above it so that fan is pushing air upwards for all three rigs.

Every metal rack has 2 of these fans.... there are 42 metal racks in the farms... the fan's life span is about 1 year before they kaput - I have to budget their replacements every year.

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Quote from: citronick on November 19, 2017, 09:54:52 AM

The 9 slot board with PCI compute card - now together with the minions at the GPU farm.

Its still with smOS, so I will settle for ~480-490 sol/s with 200/700/120w with EWBF for now.

Tytanick says he will include the dstm miner in the coming build so will wait for that and bump the watts to 150w hopefully that will result in above 500 sols/s per card.

This board looks nice. You have just enough room between cards they they can breath without having to use passive coolers and push pull case fans.

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Quote from: citronick on November 19, 2017, 09:54:52 AM

The 9 slot board with PCI compute card - now together with the minions at the GPU farm.

Its still with smOS, so I will settle for ~480-490 sol/s with 200/700/120w with EWBF for now.

Tytanick says he will include the dstm miner in the coming build so will wait for that and bump the watts to 150w hopefully that will result in above 500 sols/s per card.

I think you mentioned this yesterday , are those the 1070 or 1070ti minis?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 19, 2017, 10:13:18 AM

Quote from: citronick on November 19, 2017, 09:54:52 AM

The 9 slot board with PCI compute card - now together with the minions at the GPU farm.

Its still with smOS, so I will settle for ~480-490 sol/s with 200/700/120w with EWBF for now.

Tytanick says he will include the dstm miner in the coming build so will wait for that and bump the watts to 150w hopefully that will result in above 500 sols/s per card.

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nice numbers

QuintLeo managed to hit 500sol/s with dstm/200/700/WIN10

This 9-slot board is expensive USD$395 - although its ready to mine out of the box - the kabylake CPU, 4GB DDR4 Sodimm, 64GB M2 SSD all builtin into that compute PCI blade. If the Colorful B250 board costs less after adding the DDR4 and CPU (and that bloody CPU cable) -- I may go all Colorful.

Meanwhile, for the old farm, it will make sense to re-cycle all EVGA PSUs and standardize with ONDA 6 and 8 slots. The 2nd farm hopefully will go all riserless, except for the 12/13 GPU rigs - will leave those alone since its stable and mining without issues.

philipma1957

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Quote from: citronick on November 19, 2017, 09:54:52 AM

The 9 slot board with PCI compute card - now together with the minions at the GPU farm.

Its still with smOS, so I will settle for ~480-490 sol/s with 200/700/120w with EWBF for now.

Tytanick says he will include the dstm miner in the coming build so will wait for that and bump the watts to 150w hopefully that will result in above 500 sols/s per card.

nice numbers

citronick

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The 9 slot board with PCI compute card - now together with the minions at the GPU farm.

Its still with smOS, so I will settle for ~480-490 sol/s with 200/700/120w with EWBF for now.

Tytanick says he will include the dstm miner in the coming build so will wait for that and bump the watts to 150w hopefully that will result in above 500 sols/s per card.

philipma1957

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I think watercooled 1070's are the best card for the onda b250 board.

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150W for cooling is too much. But at the same time, $18 x 7 for new fans is expensive too.

I think there's some 4pin pwm fan pins on the onda mobo on the top right? A cheap fan controller might work: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4RE5UX0433&cm_re=pwm_fan_controller-_-1W7-0053-00012-_-Product

philipma1957

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Quote from: KaydenC on November 19, 2017, 05:29:21 AM

Quote from: QuintLeo on November 19, 2017, 04:36:26 AM

Quote from: generalt on November 18, 2017, 10:06:56 PM

Quote from: KaydenC on November 18, 2017, 07:12:12 AM

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4u-6xgpu-8xgpu-12-gpu-cards_60709559773.html

4U server case with the Onda mobo. But this case uses the 4 extra pcie 1x slot too. Supports 12 gpus and comes with 2 PSU for $580.

This tilts the economics to favor mid range gpus.

I love the description on the fans "3 violent fan 5000 turns 12CM". That's gotta be loud I'm guessing.

Delta GHE I suspect from the RPM count (technically 5200 RPM for the AFB version) - a hair louder than the fans Bitmain has been using for years but a little higher airflow.
Definitely SERIOUS airflow.

There's 7 of those fans too. 3 intake, 4 in the center. However they say it's a "12038" fan. A quick google showed several variants between 2000-2900rpm. Unsure if it's indeed 5000rpm. I'll ask the seller.

120 mm by 38 mm

delta has them over 5000 rpm this is 4600 29 watts a fan

http://www.coolingsurplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=424:ffc1212de-pwm&catid=5:120mm-fans&Itemid=8

if you lower clocks and tdp this may work 7 watts a fan

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE/ref=sr_1_4?

so 7 x 22 = 154 watts more to move

7 x 230cfm
7 x 138cfm

found it 5500 rpm using 48 watts
http://www.coolingsurplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=59:tfc1212de-pwm&catid=5:120mm-fans&Itemid=8

Specifications :
Manufacture / Brand
Delta
Model / Part Number
TFC1212DE-SP07
Size / Dimension
120mm x 120mm x 38mm
Rated Voltage
12 VDC
Rated Current
4.0 Amp
Rated Input Power
- Watt
Fan Speed
5500 R.P.M. (Revolutions per minute)
Maximum Air Flow
252.8 CFM (Cubic feet per minute)
Noise Level
66 dB-A
Maximum Air Pressure
35.88 mmH2O
Bearing Type
Ball
Termination
12” with 4 Wire Leads
Power Connector
4pin
Function/Features
PWM control/Speed Sensor (Tach Out Put)
RoHS Status
RoHS Compliant
Operating Temperature
-
Life Expectancy
-
Data Sheet

Unit Weight
0.20 lb

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Quote from: QuintLeo on November 19, 2017, 04:36:26 AM

Quote from: generalt on November 18, 2017, 10:06:56 PM

Quote from: KaydenC on November 18, 2017, 07:12:12 AM

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4u-6xgpu-8xgpu-12-gpu-cards_60709559773.html

4U server case with the Onda mobo. But this case uses the 4 extra pcie 1x slot too. Supports 12 gpus and comes with 2 PSU for $580.

This tilts the economics to favor mid range gpus.

I love the description on the fans "3 violent fan 5000 turns 12CM". That's gotta be loud I'm guessing.

Delta GHE I suspect from the RPM count (technically 5200 RPM for the AFB version) - a hair louder than the fans Bitmain has been using for years but a little higher airflow.
Definitely SERIOUS airflow.

There's 7 of those fans too. 3 intake, 4 in the center. However they say it's a "12038" fan. A quick google showed several variants between 2000-2900rpm. Unsure if it's indeed 5000rpm. I'll ask the seller.

I'd rather run them at 2000rpm for less noise and to save electricity. The antminer S9 uses 1300W and 2 of those fans. A 12 GPU rig, assuming 1200W, shouldn't require 7 of antminer's fans.

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Quote from: citronick on November 18, 2017, 10:24:35 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 18, 2017, 07:57:44 PM

@gabyrox

just made a bcc wallet

will be emptying my cryptopia account today

1HoSSK7rREJfohtf1gSesanzovmLXYkpA7 (own address)

what a mess too much stuff

1 dead board.
1 board short along with 1 cpu

10 boards on the way

5 sold
1 for doa
1 for the one never sent out

leaves 3. I MAY NOT be selling the three.

next solar array crash is fixed 1 bad ethernet cable shut down 78th for 6 to 12 hours

worse it caused a boot loop on a 2300 usd [parts cost] booted 3 times a minute for hours.

not sure how dead that pc is will tear it down on monday I hope it is just the ssd which is bad enough.

more stuff will need a redundant ethernet cable to the switch in the array loft along with a router with 2x backup.

Still things are decent about 2000 a month in the garage
and 2000 a month in the array to split
and 600 a month with my friends office

means 3300 a month for me

and 4 s-9's on the way.

other dead gear

1 fully burnt s-9 board
1 dead s-9 board could not be fixed I got a discount on an s-9
1 fully dead avalon 741 was replaced but I got to keep the dead one. still can not fix it.
and the pc I mentioned is dead
and 2 dead psus

my s-9's should ship soon it would be nice if they came before thanksgiving,

Phil - are you sending the S9 boards to Colorado Bitmain for repairs?

yes this time one was super burnt = no fix
the other looked fixable and I sent it in they could not fix it sent me a coupon to use on a new s-9
I ordered one when bcc was peaking so I got the coupon and the high bcc price. paid only 0.84 bcc/bch for it that would be the Jan batch.

will bring me to

3x avalon 721 18th
1x pangolian 11th
5x s-9 65th

total = 94th

18 1070 7650 sols
19 1080 ti 12350 sols

total = 20,000 sols

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Quote from: Marvell2 on November 18, 2017, 11:25:54 PM

Quote from: citronick on November 18, 2017, 11:53:59 AM

Got this 9 slot + 1 compute PCI working with smOS/EWBF/200core/1400mem/PL 120 powered by 2400w Delta server PSU
With 1 x 1070ti with PL 120, draws 172watts so that whole PCI base compute card eats about 50w.
All 8 cards in ~ 1070watts.

This will be for the Zotac 1070ti Mini x 8 project.

I will continue to populate all 8 onto this mobo and see how it runs.

Its past midnight here and will finetune the clocks tomorrow morning.
Looks like this 1070ti can run 550 sol/s with the right clocks and power.
I will need to bring this board to the farm and let it rock.
I cant experiment higher watts in my workbench area.

Note: The 8 slot Colorful B250 board is still missing the custom male-to-male 4pin GPU cable. The seller has agreed to send them for free Grin

and I just pay for shipping. I may standardize on the Colorful board for the farm because it will be fully powered with Delta server PSU too - and I can have my choice of CPU.

The 9 board mobo has a PCI based compute board (builtin kaby-lake CPU with 4gb DDR4 Sodimm all in), its very small form factor ... the upside to this board is that its plug and play with NVIDIA cards (No changes in BIOS) but I dont know why it didnt post with AMD cards. So this VS the Colorful B250 mobo without CPU, DDR4.... it may come to the same price.

...

do you have a link to your seller on the colorful board? Im intersted in trying out a few of those as well

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23196499

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Quote from: generalt on November 18, 2017, 10:06:56 PM

Quote from: KaydenC on November 18, 2017, 07:12:12 AM

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4u-6xgpu-8xgpu-12-gpu-cards_60709559773.html

4U server case with the Onda mobo. But this case uses the 4 extra pcie 1x slot too. Supports 12 gpus and comes with 2 PSU for $580.

This tilts the economics to favor mid range gpus.

I love the description on the fans "3 violent fan 5000 turns 12CM". That's gotta be loud I'm guessing.

Delta GHE I suspect from the RPM count (technically 5200 RPM for the AFB version) - a hair louder than the fans Bitmain has been using for years but a little higher airflow.
Definitely SERIOUS airflow.

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Quote from: citronick on November 18, 2017, 11:53:59 AM

Got this 9 slot + 1 compute PCI working with smOS/EWBF/200core/1400mem/PL 120 powered by 2400w Delta server PSU
With 1 x 1070ti with PL 120, draws 172watts so that whole PCI base compute card eats about 50w.
All 8 cards in ~ 1070watts.

This will be for the Zotac 1070ti Mini x 8 project.

I will continue to populate all 8 onto this mobo and see how it runs.

Its past midnight here and will finetune the clocks tomorrow morning.
Looks like this 1070ti can run 550 sol/s with the right clocks and power.
I will need to bring this board to the farm and let it rock.
I cant experiment higher watts in my workbench area.

Note: The 8 slot Colorful B250 board is still missing the custom male-to-male 4pin GPU cable. The seller has agreed to send them for free Grin

and I just pay for shipping. I may standardize on the Colorful board for the farm because it will be fully powered with Delta server PSU too - and I can have my choice of CPU.

The 9 board mobo has a PCI based compute board (builtin kaby-lake CPU with 4gb DDR4 Sodimm all in), its very small form factor ... the upside to this board is that its plug and play with NVIDIA cards (No changes in BIOS) but I dont know why it didnt post with AMD cards. So this VS the Colorful B250 mobo without CPU, DDR4.... it may come to the same price.

do you have a link to your seller on the colorful board? Im intersted in trying out a few of those as well

citronick

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Quote from: generalt on November 18, 2017, 10:08:52 PM

Quote from: arielbit on November 18, 2017, 11:21:21 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 18, 2017, 09:54:32 AM

Damn woke up and checked all the asics at the solar array and we are crashed.

Drove over no melt downs seems to be an internet issue.

so 4 avalons offline = 27th
1 new pangolian offline = 11th
3 s-9's offline = 40th

78th down since 2am about six hours.

I will be troubleshooting it.

you need a dual WAN router for two internet connections, have a fail over connection automatically.

Yes some routers can even support tethering to a cell phone or some type of 4G device. That really sucks though Phil.

I use this as backup during downtime or during troubleshooting - it very useful because you use a 3G/4G/LTE SIM data card.
You can also set it up to auto switch to mobile data if LAN/WAN is not available.

D-Link DWR-921 WiFi 4G LTE Router w/ Embedded SIM Slot (150Mbps N) 3 Years Local Warranty

https://www.amazon.co.uk/D-Link-DWR-921-Unlocked-Wireless-Broadband/dp/B00BN36NMM/ref=pd_sim_147_1/258-6304442-8114344?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=29YMJ37V9NCCP04WKH79

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 18, 2017, 07:57:44 PM

@gabyrox

just made a bcc wallet

will be emptying my cryptopia account today

1HoSSK7rREJfohtf1gSesanzovmLXYkpA7 (own address)

what a mess too much stuff

1 dead board.
1 board short along with 1 cpu

10 boards on the way

5 sold
1 for doa
1 for the one never sent out

leaves 3. I MAY NOT be selling the three.

next solar array crash is fixed 1 bad ethernet cable shut down 78th for 6 to 12 hours

worse it caused a boot loop on a 2300 usd [parts cost] booted 3 times a minute for hours.

not sure how dead that pc is will tear it down on monday I hope it is just the ssd which is bad enough.

more stuff will need a redundant ethernet cable to the switch in the array loft along with a router with 2x backup.

Still things are decent about 2000 a month in the garage
and 2000 a month in the array to split
and 600 a month with my friends office

means 3300 a month for me

and 4 s-9's on the way.

other dead gear

1 fully burnt s-9 board
1 dead s-9 board could not be fixed I got a discount on an s-9
1 fully dead avalon 741 was replaced but I got to keep the dead one. still can not fix it.
and the pc I mentioned is dead
and 2 dead psus

my s-9's should ship soon it would be nice if they came before thanksgiving,

Phil - are you sending the S9 boards to Colorado Bitmain for repairs?

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Quote from: arielbit on November 18, 2017, 11:21:21 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 18, 2017, 09:54:32 AM

Damn woke up and checked all the asics at the solar array and we are crashed.

Drove over no melt downs seems to be an internet issue.

so 4 avalons offline = 27th
1 new pangolian offline = 11th
3 s-9's offline = 40th

78th down since 2am about six hours.

I will be troubleshooting it.

you need a dual WAN router for two internet connections, have a fail over connection automatically.

Yes some routers can even support tethering to a cell phone or some type of 4G device. That really sucks though Phil.

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