Topic: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread - page 64. (Read 22020 times)

I hope there will be better tyres again, according to the state of the art there would probably be tyres with more performance and endurance, but this is not allowed by the regulations at the moment as far as I know. There would be more pushing and not so much attention to tyre wear.

The disqualification of Hamilton and LecLerc has shaken up the Superbru standings again. Is it already up to date and are Mercedes and Ferrari still appealing?

I don't know in which place I am now but I think it is a sure thing I am definitely out of the top 5 based on this race as it is the race that I have got the least number of points,only 9 after the disqualification of Leclerc and Hamilton,which with them I would have 11 points,still very low points.

I believe I am a candidate for the wooden spoon during this race as I doubt anyone else has done worse than me,this race was unpredictable but well that is F1 and it was a beautiful race after all,now it would be really nice if I end in a prize spot while not many race ago I was fighting for 2nd or 3rd spot,funny how things change for the worse  .

Awww yess. Couldn't improve my Superbru rankings but I think I'm in 2nd spot behind Ulven. Only four races to go so I guess my hopes there are dissipating now but my "negative" picks in jeremypwr's prediction games at least won me some salvation with freebets to claw my money back haha.

Hammie disqualification probably had more impact on eventual standings than anything else, huh? He'd probably say it was worth it, though, as no one ran Max so ragged recently.

@CLs63 yeah I see leaderboard updating now, I definitely got more points than yesterday (10.5 now compared to fewer than 10 yesterday).

We have left one of the interesting races in the season behind. Because after the race Hamilton and Leclerc's cars couldn't pass post-race controls and they were both disqualified. 

After the new results I assume that Superbru results for this week would also be updated soon. For now I can see the actual results beside the picks correctly however the points are still the same for everyone as it seems. When it comes to the race actually I really appreciated Hamilton's high effort. He could have even won the race if there were a couple of more laps but this disqualification was going to ruin him anyway. He must be really disappointed.

And yet another win for Max.
The race was not fun to watch.

I hate this kind of race where drivers can't drive at their 100% because they need to save the tyres.

It is boring.

The race is interesting as it looked like Verstappen could not win yet he is leading the race but on a different strategy as Norris with Hamilton will go to the end Verstappen has a mandatory pit stop to make because it is mandatory in this race to use at least 2 type of tires as a rule.So it is interesting because Versappen cannot create an enough big of a gap so he can go for the last stop and use the soft tires which are not recommended at all by Pirelli for this track because of the huge consumption they provide and you will use them only for 8-9 laps at best in here.It is a couple of laps that Norris is less than 1 second behind Verstappen which has another stop to do while Norris can go till the end,so it will be an interesting end of this race,most likely Verstappen won't win.

In today's Sprint, Verstappen didn't seem to push all the time and he still ended up winning with a lead of over nine seconds in just 19 laps. Being 0.5 seconds faster per lap compared to Hamilton, who came second, and having DRS for overtaking, might make a Verstappen win very likely.

Even in case overtaking could be difficult for him, Red Bull seems to have a good tyre management here in Austin once again and there are quite a few high speed corners, where the tyres will suffer. Should Verstappen struggle to overtake, he could just switch to a different strategy, where managing tyres are an option.

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Odds are down to 1.37 after Sprint.
Most likely due to Verstappen being very dominant in Sprint.

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But it could be an interesting race. Perez really struggled to make up places. It took him many laps to get past Sainz.
On the other hand - Verstappen is not Perez.  

I agree but what I also think why Perez does that bad although he has the same car as Verstappen,I should not be surprised that much as he has been consistently bad during these recent races.Verstappen can pass the drivers ahead him in the first stint before the first pit stop if the car is in full power and he is also in full motivation.

As for the pool I have decided these last races to put the 10 persons I have gone with at least 90% of all the races no matter what happens,it is one of those few races for me that I fail to find the Pole sitter while most of the time I and many others have found him as most of the races that has been Verstappen  .

Verstappen's odds have been increased by bookmakers - but only to 1.57.    However it is still not that bad actually. I believe it is good enough to add it to a parlay full of bets you trust. We are talking about Verstappen here in the end.    Norris and Hamilton have 6.50 while Leclerc has 7.00. I understand this though because Ferrari are mostly better in qualifying compared to race performance.

By the way I don't think starting from a little behind is a big deal for Verstappen. I believe he can still win by a big margin.

^  Might be good to check all the odds for Verstappen this season and see the results if somebody bet 100 bucks on him at every race.  Pretty sure the books also figured something out and juiced these lines so much that it becomes -EV and a slightly losing proposition if you bet on him in all races this season.  I mean if you really could come in ahead with 10 bucks per 100 then the books would def be leaking money there...  I don't think they would allow it.

Pole Ferrari but Max in 6th is nothing bad for him. I would be surprised if Leclerc still finishes Top 3, no worry.

Max odds to win: 1.54 strange I can't see price boost for F1


It's same as betting on City every season. They lose so few times that overall, you're still in profit. I don't think now is wise time to start though unless you believe Max will continue this form in the new season because there are too few races left to afford one Max mistake. Only 5 races left now so if he doesn't win one race in this season you need 5 wins just to cover that loss as it's all 1.2 now (except today obviously).

That says it all then as I didn't wait 11 PM European time to watch the qualifying thinking that Verstappen would have an easy win there.When I saw the standings today in the morning I thought that maybe his ego to keep doing great even after winning the title is slowing down little by little,I see that I am mistaken now and most likely tomorrow will be a great race with so many good drivers in front of him in a difficult track like this one.

The odd should be way more than 1.23 right now and I think this is a good opportunity to bet on him to win some extra money for the weekend.

It was a horrible Q3 for Verstappen. Because his last lap was deleted due to being out of track limits. His last sector was really incredible despite losing time in the first sector. He was going to take the pole from Leclerc's hands by only 0.005s. But that deletion resulted in 6th place for Verstappen. 

I must still admit that it was hell of a drive by Leclerc as well. He also deserved the pole with that clean lap. The qualifying session was enjoyable and hopefully the race would be the same as well.

Few minutes left.

Ferraris, Hamilton, and Verstappen are very close for the pole-position.

The race will be another thing with the RBR using less tyres during the race but it is always nice to beat them.

The qualifying session has started and for now Ferrari drivers look really solid. I'm still expecting Verstappen to take pole position though but maybe Ferraris can make some difficulties for him here. If you remember the qualifying session on this track last season Sainz took pole position and Leclerc also left behind Verstappen.

Maybe once again the lap times would be really close even if Verstappen takes pole. There were rumours like Stroll was going to be here this weekend but we see him now in the session.  

Alonso has shockingy been eliminated in Q1 already by the way. I wasn't really expecting this to happen so let's see if he can make up for it in the race.

2023 F1 United States Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (1)
Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m35.912s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m36.068s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m36.193s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m36.212s
5   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m36.472s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m36.474s
7   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m36.492s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m36.533s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m36.702s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m36.705s
11   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m36.987s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m37.066s
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m37.104s
14   Liam Lawson   NZL   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m37.154s
15   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m37.256s
16   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m37.418s
17   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m37.517s
18   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m37.840s
19   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m38.420s
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m39.940s

Results of the 1st hour.

Still unclear who is the favorite for the pole

It seems a fight between 3 teams


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1038556/1/f1-united-states-grand-prix-2023-friday-practice-results

True. I know "anything" can happen in football as well but you rarely get total knockout like a team gets cancelled unless they are Barca or Juventus getting punished for scandals lol

But in F1 you can have best driver KO'd out randomly or deliberately and that's where the odds come in nicely

GL everyone don't forget picks today.

You are right, I've calculated it now and it's only a small profit.
But in reality, odds have been much higher than 1.23 for the first half of the season, so a profit would have been quite considerable, to bet on Max every race.
I've edited my post above to adjust it.

26 more points in 5 races... This doesn't actually look unlikely when we consider his recent performance. Especially the weekend in Qatar was amazing for Piastri as he won the sprint race and finished the main race on podium as well. Among the remaining 5 race weekends there are sprint races as well in 2 of them - United States and Brazil.

It shouldn't be too difficult for Piastri to break this debut point record of Hamilton as long as he is consistent.

agree on first point, just look at points in last five races, and McLaren is pruned to reach Aston Martin this weekend, and Ferrari till the end
regarding Piastri, he is having great races last month, but it is hard to expect a win over Max, better drivers are struggling to do that

not sure, but IMO Norris is a bit better than Piastri, although they are really good pair for McLaren and could do some magic next season, if all things remain as it is


you need five races to cover one that he didn't won, too much for my sense
and he basically lost 3, won 14, so overall a small plus, if any, betting on him