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Quote from: buwaytress on September 15, 2023, 10:16:06 AM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 15, 2023, 05:24:57 AM

I'm watching FP1 right now and things are going smoothly for Ferrari at the moment. Leclerc is 1st and Sainz is right behind him. This is a scenario that I was expecting to see honestly. Ferrari drivers are mostly doing well in practice sessions. Especially after their solid result in Monza they must be even more ambitious now. I'm still regretful for not adding one of them on podium. If I added one of them that would have definitely been Sainz which makes me even sadder. Cry

I expect Verstappen to make a big improvement in Singapore this time by the way. Because his last performance here was a disappointment - finished 7th.

Isn't it not too late to add them on podium now though? Superbru shows me now that qualification is tomorrow and that I still have 22 hours from this post to enter my picks (and still get those precious EB points).

Sainz on podium, really? Not Leclerc?

I meant Monza when it comes to picking one for podium. I thought of adding one of them for Monza GP but couldn't trust Ferrari rather than the drivers. Because you know how they destroyed the races for their drivers quite many times until now.

The reason why I would have picked Sainz for podium in Monza GP was that his performance in Free Practice sessions was better than Leclerc.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 15, 2023, 05:24:57 AM

I'm watching FP1 right now and things are going smoothly for Ferrari at the moment. Leclerc is 1st and Sainz is right behind him. This is a scenario that I was expecting to see honestly. Ferrari drivers are mostly doing well in practice sessions. Especially after their solid result in Monza they must be even more ambitious now. I'm still regretful for not adding one of them on podium. If I added one of them that would have definitely been Sainz which makes me even sadder. Cry

I expect Verstappen to make a big improvement in Singapore this time by the way. Because his last performance here was a disappointment - finished 7th.

Isn't it not too late to add them on podium now though? Superbru shows me now that qualification is tomorrow and that I still have 22 hours from this post to enter my picks (and still get those precious EB points).

Sainz on podium, really? Not Leclerc?

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I'm watching FP1 right now and things are going smoothly for Ferrari at the moment. Leclerc is 1st and Sainz is right behind him. This is a scenario that I was expecting to see honestly. Ferrari drivers are mostly doing well in practice sessions. Especially after their solid result in Monza they must be even more ambitious now. I'm still regretful for not adding one of them on podium. If I added one of them that would have definitely been Sainz which makes me even sadder. Cry

I expect Verstappen to make a big improvement in Singapore this time by the way. Because his last performance here was a disappointment - finished 7th.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 12, 2023, 08:14:36 AM

Drivers sometimes get a new set of tyres before the last lap to be able to get 1 more point.

Yes, it's very difficult to predict. Sometimes due to a safety car, sometimes a faster lap can't be set due to rain (like Alonso won fastest lap in Zandvoort) or most common by a driver, where's a big gap behind and he can make a free stop shortly before finishing to get new tyres. It's very difficult to say in advance, where such a gap could open up.

Singapore Grand Prix next weekend will be interesting because it's a very challenging track.
And maybe changing our Superbru picks after qualifying can make sense here because overtaking is very hard in Singapore. Yes, it's easier compared to Monaco but it's still a hard track to overtake. Depending on qualifying results, changing picks might be an option to look into.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 12, 2023, 06:16:24 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on September 11, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

I'm very excited as we are going to watch exactly 3 races in the upcoming 4 weeks. Everyone who has joined the prediction contest on the topic has chosen Verstappen for pole position so far. Don't you think there is any chance for a surprise to happen after Ferrari's performance in Monza?

It's a gamble - Verstappen ends up on pole position 58% of the time this season.
If the question was Verstappen or anybody else, than I guess risking it would be a good way to go.

Fastest lap is a more interesting one though - I just don't know who to pick. Again - Verstappen's got it 43% of the time - but from all other drivers only Perez and Hamilton won it twice.

You are right about the topic that Verstappen is the favourite. However if you take a risk you get one step ahead as all of the others pick Verstappen. It is a similar tactic to your not including Haaland in your squad to win free bets in the fantasy football pool.

Surprises are more common to be seen when it comes to fastest laps. Drivers sometimes get a new set of tyres before the last lap to be able to get 1 more point.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 11, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

I'm very excited as we are going to watch exactly 3 races in the upcoming 4 weeks. Everyone who has joined the prediction contest on the topic has chosen Verstappen for pole position so far. Don't you think there is any chance for a surprise to happen after Ferrari's performance in Monza?

It's a gamble - Verstappen ends up on pole position 58% of the time this season.
If the question was Verstappen or anybody else, than I guess risking it would be a good way to go.

Fastest lap is a more interesting one though - I just don't know who to pick. Again - Verstappen's got it 43% of the time - but from all other drivers only Perez and Hamilton won it twice.

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I'm very excited as we are going to watch exactly 3 races in the upcoming 4 weeks. Everyone who has joined the prediction contest on the topic has chosen Verstappen for pole position so far. Don't you think there is any chance for a surprise to happen after Ferrari's performance in Monza?

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 08, 2023, 07:23:32 AM

^ Wait, you saying that Verstappen is good just because of his car..?

Of course not. I said that I accept Verstappen is a very good driver. I'm thinking like this independently from the car he drives. However there is a fact that Red Bull have the best car on the grid now. This makes things much easier for a very skilled driver like Verstappen to become this much dominant as well.

On the other hand I would think the same for another very good driver if they drive the same car in Verstappen's stead. For example if one of the drivers I mentioned in my previous post is brought to Verstappen's place that driver would also become very successful. This is why I praised Red Bull engineers too as they did a great work on the car.

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As I told you a not long time ago.

Toto Wolff released an interview saying back in 2021 FIA changed the rules in the winter to stop the domination of Mercedes.

In a few months, they decided to reduce the drag by 30% in the rear of the car and it was the major strength for them.

I think they can do the same of the end of the season, changing unilaterally the rules to "nerf" RBR.

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Rando news flashing past me reminds that even Hammie thinks Max has a "weak" teammate (compared to his earlier seasons).

I think there is just perception bias here. Neither Max nor Perez is quite as noisy as others have been in the past and now with amplified media, the difference becomes starker. And then a subdued presence is associated with weaker performance. Rubbish.

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 08, 2023, 09:26:45 AM

I see the leaderboard has finally shifted at the top, great job all you chasers as we approach the final quarter of the season. I'm still maintaining my position in 8th, just hope I'm more of a Piastri climbing up or even Leclerc, and not ending up like a Yuki and going out when the going gets tough haha. I had some people over at my place (Dutch) and while they're pleased with Max, they all seem to really like the way Tsunoda rubs off on them. Not sure if it's the same reason I liked him from last season (I have an underdog bias though).

Concur though that "best driver" is an argument that's as futile as GOAT drivel in football/sports/etc. I enjoy athletes, I love them all.

tokeweed man why isn't your ass in UCL pool?

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 08, 2023, 07:23:32 AM

^ Wait, you saying that Verstappen is good just because of his car..? Then why can't Perez make the drivers championship close? I think right now, at this version of Verstappen, in the same car he'll edge out Sainz, Russell and Leclerc. It's Hamilton who could really make it close imho. But that's just me.

No but is the combination, Verstappen is the best driver or one of the best drivers in the best car.

When Perez is in a good day he also has 1 second lap time faster in races ahead of the other cars, so it is definitely the best car.

Verstappen is capitalizing on this car just like Vettel did before with the same team when he won 4 Championships,then Hamilton did the same with Mercedes where he won 6 Championships with them,1 with McLaren he had a long time ago in 2008.So as Sainz said,it is not Verstappen fault that he drives this well,each team had an equal chance of working on creating the best car,Redbull did it and now Verstappen is enjoying the benefits.

Redbull is the strongest car even by Lewis Hamilton when he said Max would not be enjoying himself so much if I was in the same car as him like he is enjoying now with Perez as a team mate.

I think we've seen how good and gutsy Verstappen is during the 2021 season when he went toe to toe against Hamilton in a slightly inferior car. I think any other driver would have folded under the kind of pressure he brings on the track. Verstappen was willing to get the gloves off and risk his race than accepting to be outraced by Hamilton. It was a brilliant season win or lose.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 08, 2023, 01:36:12 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 08, 2023, 07:23:32 AM

^ Wait, you saying that Verstappen is good just because of his car..? Then why can't Perez make the drivers championship close? I think right now, at this version of Verstappen, in the same car he'll edge out Sainz, Russell and Leclerc. It's Hamilton who could really make it close imho. But that's just me.

No but is the combination, Verstappen is the best driver or one of the best drivers in the best car.

When Perez is in a good day he also has 1 second lap time faster in races ahead of the other cars, so it is definitely the best car.

Verstappen is capitalizing on this car just like Vettel did before with the same team when he won 4 Championships,then Hamilton did the same with Mercedes where he won 6 Championships with them,1 with McLaren he had a long time ago in 2008.So as Sainz said,it is not Verstappen fault that he drives this well,each team had an equal chance of working on creating the best car,Redbull did it and now Verstappen is enjoying the benefits.

Redbull is the strongest car even by Lewis Hamilton when he said Max would not be enjoying himself so much if I was in the same car as him like he is enjoying now with Perez as a team mate.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 08, 2023, 07:23:32 AM

^ Wait, you saying that Verstappen is good just because of his car..? Then why can't Perez make the drivers championship close? I think right now, at this version of Verstappen, in the same car he'll edge out Sainz, Russell and Leclerc. It's Hamilton who could really make it close imho. But that's just me.

No but is the combination, Verstappen is the best driver or one of the best drivers in the best car.

When Perez is in a good day he also has 1 second lap time faster in races ahead of the other cars, so it is definitely the best car.

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I see the leaderboard has finally shifted at the top, great job all you chasers as we approach the final quarter of the season. I'm still maintaining my position in 8th, just hope I'm more of a Piastri climbing up or even Leclerc, and not ending up like a Yuki and going out when the going gets tough haha. I had some people over at my place (Dutch) and while they're pleased with Max, they all seem to really like the way Tsunoda rubs off on them. Not sure if it's the same reason I liked him from last season (I have an underdog bias though).

Concur though that "best driver" is an argument that's as futile as GOAT drivel in football/sports/etc. I enjoy athletes, I love them all.

tokeweed man why isn't your ass in UCL pool?

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^ Wait, you saying that Verstappen is good just because of his car..? Then why can't Perez make the drivers championship close? I think right now, at this version of Verstappen, in the same car he'll edge out Sainz, Russell and Leclerc. It's Hamilton who could really make it close imho. But that's just me.

I'm not saying the car has nothing to do with winning races but saying Verstappen isn't a brilliant driver and that Russell could beat him in the same car any day of the week is just wrong. I mean Albon could beat Russell in some races in his Williams.

And about Schumacher, just like your argument about RBR's team, most of the engineering team at Benetton went with Schumacher at Ferrari.

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I accept that Verstappen is a very good driver. However we need to accept that the result won't change if we put Sainz, Russell, Hamilton or Leclerc in his car today as well. Red Bull engineers should be the ones receiving the actual praise here. They managed to do a much better work than all of their opponents.

Schumacher's signing for Ferrari was a big challenge in those times' conditions. And Schumacher put his stamp on history as a legend by being successful at Ferrari as well.

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For me doesnt matter if it was one team two team or 3 team champion in this case, because we are talking about dominant car and no matter what team is if it is a dominant car still a ominant car an a easy win. Sorry if i become repetitive in my last sentence.

I still repeat the main fault for me in all this hibryd era is from Ferrari, from the big 3 (Ferrari, RBR, Mercedes) two has produced dominant cars and Ferrari dont in all this years.

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Quote from: 1miau on September 05, 2023, 05:59:29 PM

Hamilton won World Champion's title in 2 cars as well.
First time, he won in McLaren 2008 and later he won in Mercedes 5 times (2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 and 2019).

Yeah but I think is a bit different since it was Mclaren Mercedes at start, so they may had the same men in both teams. Atleast some of them

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Verstappen is really unstoppable. This is just a way different kind of domination I have ever seen. He has even broken a record of winning 10 consecutive races. He was equal with Vettel before the race in Monza. It looks like Verstappen can even continue to improve this record to a much higher level.

There are still 8 more races in the calendar. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes this record 18 races. Grin

As long as he doesn't have a problem with the car I don't see a way to stop him.

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