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And here's where it’s getting interesting. Changing our Superbru picks or not changing? I believe most of us have Verstappen to win (I have him to win as well), so changing picks is definitely an option.
However, will we be able to gain our lost 2 Early Bru Points back? It's very difficult to predict podium positions because we don't know if Ferrari will make a bad strategy call again and also how tyre management will look for Ferrari. Crashes can happen every time, bringing a safety car out, where position can change a lot.
We can get rain, where positions might change a lot as well.
We have Piastri and Stroll starting from far behind, not sure if points for Piastri and Stroll are possible.
We have many strange cars in Top 10, where it's not sure if these cars will stay Top 10 until finish line.

It's looking like changing picks is really a 50 / 50 option.  Huh


I have also been thinking about this since the qualifying session ended. I assume that I won't give up on EBP points as it really very difficult to predict the result of this race. It isn't difficult to predict that a person who can predict podium correctly tomorrow will rise in the standings significantly. When it comes to Verstappen's statements after the qualifying session he isn't very hopeful for tomorrow.
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I made my prediction as Leclerc instead of Verstappen in the Exclusive F1 Prediction Contest. However Sainz managed to win his second pole position in a row today. It was predicted that Red Bulls might have difficulties. However it must have made everyone shocked that both Red Bull drivers couldn't qualify for Q3. Despite everything I think Verstappen still has a chance in the race tomorrow.
Yes, what an awful performance from Red Bull.  Cheesy
During all FP sessions, Red Bull struggled a lot but starting positions 11 and 13 are way worse from what was expected.
It's even more embarassing because Verstappen didn't even had traffic in his last attempt, he was just awfully slow.


Odds near 7,are they kidding us the bookies,do they think that Redbull team will not have enough time to fix the car for the race?I strongly agree with you the odds are too good to not try and I am going to bet like some 70.000 IDR for 490.000 IDR for Redbull to be the winning constructor.
From last year, Verstappen started from position 8 as well and had a horrible race, where he just enden on position 7, despite many cars retiring due to verious reasons.
I still expect a podium can be possible for Verstappen and a Safety Car can help him but a race win is very unlikely in my opinion.

And here's where it’s getting interesting. Changing our Superbru picks or not changing? I believe most of us have Verstappen to win (I have him to win as well), so changing picks is definitely an option.
However, will we be able to gain our lost 2 Early Bru Points back? It's very difficult to predict podium positions because we don't know if Ferrari will make a bad strategy call again and also how tyre management will look for Ferrari. Crashes can happen every time, bringing a safety car out, where position can change a lot.
We can get rain, where positions might change a lot as well.
We have Piastri and Stroll starting from far behind, not sure if points for Piastri and Stroll are possible.
We have many strange cars in Top 10, where it's not sure if these cars will stay Top 10 until finish line.

It's looking like changing picks is really a 50 / 50 option.  Huh
legendary
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Huh, tomorrow's race looks like it might be pretty interesting. Sainz favorite for the win, and odds of ~7 for Red Bull to be the winning constructor.

They were on top in every race this season, can they turn it around tomorrow as well? The odds are too good not to try.

It's a night race as well, perfect time slot for us Europeans, not the one to miss!

Odds near 7,are they kidding us the bookies,do they think that Redbull team will not have enough time to fix the car for the race?I strongly agree with you the odds are too good to not try and I am going to bet like some 70.000 IDR for 490.000 IDR for Redbull to be the winning constructor.

I think and believe the mechanics and the team can fix the car for tomorrow but not because they need to as they are already Champions this year,it is all about the prestige of such team,they would want to show the world that they can even fix things in not a so much favorable situation.
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Huh, tomorrow's race looks like it might be pretty interesting. Sainz favorite for the win, and odds of ~7 for Red Bull to be the winning constructor.

They were on top in every race this season, can they turn it around tomorrow as well? The odds are too good not to try.

It's a night race as well, perfect time slot for us Europeans, not the one to miss!
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I thought of choosing Leclerc for the pole first but later I decided not to take risks and went on with Verstappen. It seems like none of these choices would have made a big change.  Grin  Sainz made such a great effort and deserved to take that pole. Taking 2 consecutive poles is really impressive while there is a huge threat like Verstappen.

I wonder how the race will go tomorrow. If Ferrari don't screw things up in pit or with strategies then we can really see Ferrari drivers in first and second places.

Ferrari look much faster than Red Bull in Singapore but let's see whether they can maintain this pace in the race too.

It looks like Ferrari have improved not only in Monza as we all thought that they setup the car with the highest top speed there to take profit from the straights and have a good one,they did have a good one there.In here I never expected them to do this good and I also didn't want to take risks so choose Verstappen on pole.I believe though that Redbull team will work during all this time,during all the day there in Singapore and most probably would have fixed something for the race so this one is going to be a really interesting race tomorrow.
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I made my prediction as Leclerc instead of Verstappen in the Exclusive F1 Prediction Contest. However Sainz managed to win his second pole position in a row today. It was predicted that Red Bulls might have difficulties. However it must have made everyone shocked that both Red Bull drivers couldn't qualify for Q3. Despite everything I think Verstappen still has a chance in the race tomorrow.
It was very unexpected results in qualifications but I checked what happened in previous seasons in Singapore grand prix and final race results were often different from qualifications.
Weather report is saying possible rain tomorrow in Singapore and that usually means a lot of changes, but I still expect to see one Red Bull on podium.
It might be a good idea to place bets now, odds on Sainz and others are very juicy, maybe even top 3 or top 6:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/singapore-grand-prix-2023-race/singapore-grand-prix-2023-race-64f4ca59938a06000142c1b4

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I thought of choosing Leclerc for the pole first but later I decided not to take risks and went on with Verstappen. It seems like none of these choices would have made a big change.  Grin  Sainz made such a great effort and deserved to take that pole. Taking 2 consecutive poles is really impressive while there is a huge threat like Verstappen.

I wonder how the race will go tomorrow. If Ferrari don't screw things up in pit or with strategies then we can really see Ferrari drivers in first and second places.

Ferrari look much faster than Red Bull in Singapore but let's see whether they can maintain this pace in the race too.
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There's a slim chance of Verstappen winning IF there's no rain. Very slim.

The weather forecast for now is that it's going to rain. So, we probably have a good race guaranteed on our hands.  Grin
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2. Leclerc
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I made my prediction as Leclerc instead of Verstappen in the Exclusive F1 Prediction Contest. However Sainz managed to win his second pole position in a row today. It was predicted that Red Bulls might have difficulties. However it must have made everyone shocked that both Red Bull drivers couldn't qualify for Q3. Despite everything I think Verstappen still has a chance in the race tomorrow.
It's a track where the fast slow down and the slow speed up. so a team that couldn't challenge red bull at monza can outrun them on the streets of singapore with drs support. It's one of the most feared tracks by the teams that dominate the season. Structurally it is a strange place. The corners of the track are also very interesting. But since the race is held in the evening session, the grip will be quite strong if it doesn't rain. So the drivers can push their cars a little more comfortably. It could be a race where albon, norris and perez could come to the fore. Liam Lawson, a rookie in only his third race in F1, who had never raced on this track before, and who was driving the worst car on the grid, slapped Verstappen out of Q3 in yet another slap in the face of the fact that F1 is truly an "automobile sport".
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I made my prediction as Leclerc instead of Verstappen in the Exclusive F1 Prediction Contest. However Sainz managed to win his second pole position in a row today. It was predicted that Red Bulls might have difficulties. However it must have made everyone shocked that both Red Bull drivers couldn't qualify for Q3. Despite everything I think Verstappen still has a chance in the race tomorrow.
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2023 F1 Singapore Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (3)
Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.065s
2   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m32.134s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.303s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m32.378s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.381s
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m32.535s
7   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.730s
8   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.784s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m32.896s
10   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m32.945s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m32.970s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m32.979s
13   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.051s
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.126s
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.351s
16   Liam Lawson   NZL   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.357s
17   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m33.370s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m33.540s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m33.637s
20   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m33.708s


Free practice 3, Ferrari still ahead.

They may do the pole today after all.

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1035794/1/f1-singapore-grand-prix-2023-final-practice-results
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I think that with the new layout of the track we will see more overtakes.

Ferrari is competitive but in the race, if nothing happens to Max they will have no chances.

Yeah,I just checked Practice 1 and 2 and Ferrari dominated both of them,I don't know if Monza was not because of the setup of the car only as this makes me think that real improvements for any track have been made to Ferrari since they are competitive in a very fast technical track like this one.

This race though is much more difficult for the drivers than Monza was as in Monza the track is straight near 70-75% of it while in here is full of turns and we have seen quite so many race incidents here,everything can happen in the race but first I need to see the official qualifying and see the real power of the cars.
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I think that with the new layout of the track we will see more overtakes.

Ferrari is competitive but in the race, if nothing happens to Max they will have no chances.

If Max Verstappen doesn't have any problems this year he looks like he will win every race. I don't remember this kind of a thing in history. Even though these races are boring us while watching them maybe we could be witnessing a season that will go down in history after long years. I was doubtful about Ferrari's performance in Monza to continue or not. However they managed to leave Friday behind quite nicely.
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I think that with the new layout of the track we will see more overtakes.

Ferrari is competitive but in the race, if nothing happens to Max they will have no chances.
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The reason why I would have picked Sainz for podium in Monza GP was that his performance in Free Practice sessions was better than Leclerc.  Smiley

I am also thinking in that direction, that Sainz will be better than Leclerc, but not sure that either will end up on podium
TBH, except for Max, that is official winner of every race, even before it starts, all other drivers are pretty equal in chasing podium (not all, but those 7 from top teams), and I would prefer to choose Hamilton or Alonso over Sainz, no matter practice results

will see how will it go this week
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I'm watching FP1 right now and things are going smoothly for Ferrari at the moment. Leclerc is 1st and Sainz is right behind him. This is a scenario that I was expecting to see honestly. Ferrari drivers are mostly doing well in practice sessions. Especially after their solid result in Monza they must be even more ambitious now. I'm still regretful for not adding one of them on podium. If I added one of them that would have definitely been Sainz which makes me even sadder.  Cry

I expect Verstappen to make a big improvement in Singapore this time by the way. Because his last performance here was a disappointment - finished 7th.

Isn't it not too late to add them on podium now though? Superbru shows me now that qualification is tomorrow and that I still have 22 hours from this post to enter my picks (and still get those precious EB points).

Sainz on podium, really? Not Leclerc?

I meant Monza when it comes to picking one for podium. I thought of adding one of them for Monza GP but couldn't trust Ferrari rather than the drivers. Because you know how they destroyed the races for their drivers quite many times until now.

The reason why I would have picked Sainz for podium in Monza GP was that his performance in Free Practice sessions was better than Leclerc.  Smiley
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I'm watching FP1 right now and things are going smoothly for Ferrari at the moment. Leclerc is 1st and Sainz is right behind him. This is a scenario that I was expecting to see honestly. Ferrari drivers are mostly doing well in practice sessions. Especially after their solid result in Monza they must be even more ambitious now. I'm still regretful for not adding one of them on podium. If I added one of them that would have definitely been Sainz which makes me even sadder.  Cry

I expect Verstappen to make a big improvement in Singapore this time by the way. Because his last performance here was a disappointment - finished 7th.

Isn't it not too late to add them on podium now though? Superbru shows me now that qualification is tomorrow and that I still have 22 hours from this post to enter my picks (and still get those precious EB points).

Sainz on podium, really? Not Leclerc?
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I'm watching FP1 right now and things are going smoothly for Ferrari at the moment. Leclerc is 1st and Sainz is right behind him. This is a scenario that I was expecting to see honestly. Ferrari drivers are mostly doing well in practice sessions. Especially after their solid result in Monza they must be even more ambitious now. I'm still regretful for not adding one of them on podium. If I added one of them that would have definitely been Sainz which makes me even sadder.  Cry

I expect Verstappen to make a big improvement in Singapore this time by the way. Because his last performance here was a disappointment - finished 7th.
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Drivers sometimes get a new set of tyres before the last lap to be able to get 1 more point.
Yes, it's very difficult to predict. Sometimes due to a safety car, sometimes a faster lap can't be set due to rain (like Alonso won fastest lap in Zandvoort) or most common by a driver, where's a big gap behind and he can make a free stop shortly before finishing to get new tyres. It's very difficult to say in advance, where such a gap could open up.



Singapore Grand Prix next weekend will be interesting because it's a very challenging track.
And maybe changing our Superbru picks after qualifying can make sense here because overtaking is very hard in Singapore. Yes, it's easier compared to Monaco but it's still a hard track to overtake. Depending on qualifying results, changing picks might be an option to look into.  Smiley
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I'm very excited as we are going to watch exactly 3 races in the upcoming 4 weeks. Everyone who has joined the prediction contest on the topic has chosen Verstappen for pole position so far. Don't you think there is any chance for a surprise to happen after Ferrari's performance in Monza?

It's a gamble - Verstappen ends up on pole position 58% of the time this season.
If the question was Verstappen or anybody else, than I guess risking it would be a good way to go.

Fastest lap is a more interesting one though - I just don't know who to pick. Again - Verstappen's got it 43% of the time - but from all other drivers only Perez and Hamilton won it twice.

You are right about the topic that Verstappen is the favourite. However if you take a risk you get one step ahead as all of the others pick Verstappen. It is a similar tactic to your not including Haaland in your squad to win free bets in the fantasy football pool. Smiley Surprises are more common to be seen when it comes to fastest laps. Drivers sometimes get a new set of tyres before the last lap to be able to get 1 more point.
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