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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 24, 2023, 01:58:46 PM

Spa, one of the most mighty circuits on the F1, i hope we can see another winner and not the same as always Max Verstappen.

One thing we need to notice, its a few weeks ago in Spa one young driver died again for a crash. I think he was for F3 or some minor categorie like that, really sad.

So i hope we can have a race with safety.

F1 safety with the halo system has improved greatly,just a couple of years ago a bad crash of Hamilton vs Verstappen and the halo saved Hamilton life as Verstappen car was stopped by that halo otherwise it would have been catastrophic as a bare minimum Hamilton would have had huge problems with his neck if saved from the tragedy.I think the halo system should be implemented in many other categories and lower categories drivers should not over do it trying to squeeze more than the car can deliver otherwise tragedies will happen.I am sure we will not see any problem with the F1 race this upcoming weekend.

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Spa, one of the most mighty circuits on the F1, i hope we can see another winner and not the same as always Max Verstappen.

One thing we need to notice, its a few weeks ago in Spa one young driver died again for a crash. I think he was for F3 or some minor categorie like that, really sad.

So i hope we can have a race with safety.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2023, 02:38:47 AM

I know I don't follow F1 and I did not expect much from this pool but I feel like there is almost no point in playing this. I mean everybody is picking Verstappen always which is boring but you must do it and then hoping you get exact placement for one of the other guys. I did not watch a single race or read a single article and still I am in the middle of the pool. Basically all I know is that Verstappen is winning every race and then I pick other guys just by their points that are written in Superbru.

Is there something more to this for those of you that understand the sport?

Yup, no F1's seasons most of the time is like this. Lol. There was one season in the Mercedes era that was very exciting. After that, it's pretty much the same as now. :/ Funny thing tho is the ones who are complaining how Verstappen and Red Bull are so dominant now weren't really complaining when Hamilton and Mercedes were so dominant for 8 years or so. Cheesy

From a betting perspective, try looking in the points finish market. If any driver's odds from teams Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes, Ferrari, Aston Martin is lined above 2.00 and has no grid penalty then it's an auto bet... At least for me.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2023, 02:38:47 AM

I know I don't follow F1 and I did not expect much from this pool but I feel like there is almost no point in playing this. I mean everybody is picking Verstappen always which is boring but you must do it and then hoping you get exact placement for one of the other guys. I did not watch a single race or read a single article and still I am in the middle of the pool. Basically all I know is that Verstappen is winning every race and then I pick other guys just by their points that are written in Superbru.

Is there something more to this for those of you that understand the sport?

I follow every single race of F1 but this does not make me an expert in F1 sport.Before choosing my picks I always consult with all the free practice sessions before deciding,there is no point in not choosing Verstappen as he clearly has the best car and if he has no problems during the race he will most probably win them all as he is already doing.The other drivers I choose exclusively based on the free practice placements and so far it has been sometimes right to choose based on that and sometimes wrong but most of the times I was happy with my choices so I will continue to do it.There is nothing more than this for me.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 24, 2023, 03:33:45 AM

Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2023, 02:38:47 AM

I know I don't follow F1 and I did not expect much from this pool but I feel like there is almost no point in playing this. I mean everybody is picking Verstappen always which is boring but you must do it and then hoping you get exact placement for one of the other guys. I did not watch a single race or read a single article and still I am in the middle of the pool. Basically all I know is that Verstappen is winning every race and then I pick other guys just by their points that are written in Superbru.

Is there something more to this for those of you that understand the sport?

Red Bull have the fastest car on the grid by far now. As Verstappen is one of the most skilled drivers too this combination brings about a huge domination in this sport. It was the same for Hamilton when we were in the turbo hybrid era. Now Red Bull have captured the domination from Mercedes. This is a domination sport I'm afraid so there will always be someone who wins nearly all the time unless the cars are equal.

Right now there is only a competition among the other drivers. As for the pool it is simple to predict the winner and pole position most of the time. But the more difficult part is generally to predict the whole drivers in top 10 and their placements at the same time.

We are watching a domination in teams like the 2016 Mercedes season. Mercedes drivers won all races except malaysia and spain (rosberg and hamilton clashed in spain and by a twist of fate verstappen had won that race). A domination in the pilots like Schumi's 2004 season and Vettel's 2013 season. (Schumi won 13 races in the 2004 season, again, Vettel won the last 9 races of the 2013 season in a row, as well as won 13 races that season.) Hamilton dominated between 2014-2020 (except the year Rosberg became champion), but Bottas and Vettel were a little close to him until a certain point in the season. If we come to this year, we are witnessing a heavy domination. As for the race, Verstappen is just at 1, we can say that the rest competed among themselves. I'm not sure I can enjoy this much of a domination, it is literally too much.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2023, 02:38:47 AM

I know I don't follow F1 and I did not expect much from this pool but I feel like there is almost no point in playing this. I mean everybody is picking Verstappen always which is boring but you must do it and then hoping you get exact placement for one of the other guys. I did not watch a single race or read a single article and still I am in the middle of the pool. Basically all I know is that Verstappen is winning every race and then I pick other guys just by their points that are written in Superbru.

Is there something more to this for those of you that understand the sport?

Red Bull have the fastest car on the grid by far now. As Verstappen is one of the most skilled drivers too this combination brings about a huge domination in this sport. It was the same for Hamilton when we were in the turbo hybrid era. Now Red Bull have captured the domination from Mercedes. This is a domination sport I'm afraid so there will always be someone who wins nearly all the time unless the cars are equal.

Right now there is only a competition among the other drivers. As for the pool it is simple to predict the winner and pole position most of the time. But the more difficult part is generally to predict the whole drivers in top 10 and their placements at the same time.

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I know I don't follow F1 and I did not expect much from this pool but I feel like there is almost no point in playing this. I mean everybody is picking Verstappen always which is boring but you must do it and then hoping you get exact placement for one of the other guys. I did not watch a single race or read a single article and still I am in the middle of the pool. Basically all I know is that Verstappen is winning every race and then I pick other guys just by their points that are written in Superbru.

Is there something more to this for those of you that understand the sport?

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Thank you guys.In fact it was really nice to see that I hit it big when I didn't think much about what drivers to put in,I just put them randomly and the result was magnificent for me.The Championship this season is already over unfortunately with Verstappen dominating easily in every single track,it was a shame for Hamilton that started really bad,as bad as he asked forgiveness to the team for such a slow start as if he got out first of that first corner I am sure we would have witnessed a great race as I am sure Hamilton would have kept Verstappen a couple of laps behind giving time to the McLarens to be near him.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 23, 2023, 03:55:19 AM

@1miau Even though Verstappen is most likely to win this race anyway at least it was nice to see a competitive qualifying session.

It looks like the new tyre format in qualifying didn't affect Verstappen's performance in a good way for now. But maybe it has something to do with the new changes in the car as well. Red Bull were expected to gain more speed actually but we will see it more clearly in the race.

Yes, you were right, very easy cruise for Verstappen after Hamilton had a bad start, where he dropped 4 places. So, not even a fight Verstappen vs. Hamilton.
And I agree, qualifying was nice. Maybe it'll happen more often that we can have competitive qualifying sessions due to the new tyre rules but somehow I have the feeling that Hungary was an exception. Maybe rain can help in Belgium to get a competitive weekend.

Really disappointed from Ferrari and Aston Martin again but at least, both cars got points, even if it's only few points. Not like Zhou, who screwed up the start big time by not getting away from his starting position and in turn 1, he braked too late, crashing into Ricciardo, who took out the 2 Alpines. Cheesy

At least Perez had a good race once again and Russell as well.

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It was a really great performance by collecting 17.5 points to be honest. It isn't easy to collect that many normally. I see that position bonus points were a big help for you. When it comes to the race there was another standard race for Verstappen as he won easily. But Hamilton really disappointed his fans surely. That was a really bad start and this cost him the podium later on. McLaren were again doing amazing things. Ferrari were another disappointment but I'm not surprised anymore. They just killed Leclerc's race by that pit stop.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 23, 2023, 02:30:19 PM

Ended up being a good race for me, asides of Max Verstappen dominance and we know he is gonna win, it was a really good fight in all the points position.

This race have a "romantic" thing, Red Bull breaks Mc Claren record, and sudenly MCclaren was the car who oppose them to break that record when few weeks ago this was impossible to think.

The problem is that this track kinda sucks for overtaking and with these cars is not even easy to overtake nowadays.

The DRS is not so strong like it was 3 years ago so, it is harder to overtake if you are faster even if they told us that with this generation of car was easier to overtake.

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Not the best of the races but personally for me in the pool it has been the best race ever,I just set a new record for a single race at 17.5 points which I think is the highest we have had in this pool,last year I also head the record 16.5 but shared with the organizer of this pool Cls63.I am happy to have recovered 4 positions directly with a single race and right now being near the top guys not far away,just 4.5 points behind the leader which during all the remaining races will be very fought ones.I am back doing what I did the same last year,in this time,I am being either second,third or first,most of the races second is enough to secure a winning spot in the end of the tournament.

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Ended up being a good race for me, asides of Max Verstappen dominance and we know he is gonna win, it was a really good fight in all the points position.

This race have a "romantic" thing, Red Bull breaks Mc Claren record, and sudenly MCclaren was the car who oppose them to break that record when few weeks ago this was impossible to think.

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Quote from: boltz on July 23, 2023, 05:13:50 AM

This race might be the best so far as top 4 is stacked with talent and to be honest , all of them have their chance to win the race today. Sure , Hamilton will try everything he can to hold Max back and expose him to both McLarens but Max is well known for having almost perfect starts and if that happens , I think he will end up on P1 after first apex.

I am quite confident that Hamilton will have an advantage until the first corner because he starts from what F1 fans call it the "clean" part of the track and as such when starting will have a little advantage besides his skills.For the sake of a good race I also hope Max to not come out full power since the first turn as Schumi said,races are not won on the first turn so most likely we will see an intense battle today and even if Max makes it first out of the first corner it is up to Hamilton to follow him close enough in a track where this is much possible so we can hope for some change of positions when they change tires.

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This race might be the best so far as top 4 is stacked with talent and to be honest , all of them have their chance to win the race today. Sure , Hamilton will try everything he can to hold Max back and expose him to both McLarens but Max is well known for having almost perfect starts and if that happens , I think he will end up on P1 after first apex.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 23, 2023, 03:55:19 AM

@swogerino Aston Martin were expected to do better on this track for example. They were believing that it was fitting them really well. But none of the drivers was impressive yesterday.

Alfa Romeo were the biggest surprise of the day by the way. Not only both drivers were in Q3 but also Zhou got the 5th place amazingly.

This promises for a great race then.Shame it is not rainy weather in Hungary today,nevertheless I will be happy to see this race despite me having put some really strange positions in the pool and so far only having the 2 EBP points as I had Verstappen yesterday on pole although I wanted heavily to have Norris on pole but I did not have the guts to do so.

I think that McLaren is also in the fight to win the race here if Hamilton will act as a blocker to Verstappen pace and if Hamilton goes out first in the first corner the race then will become extra beautiful to watch so I pray that Hamilton goes out first from the first corner and we see a first part of the race wonderful.

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@1miau Even though Verstappen is most likely to win this race anyway at least it was nice to see a competitive qualifying session.

It looks like the new tyre format in qualifying didn't affect Verstappen's performance in a good way for now. But maybe it has something to do with the new changes in the car as well. Red Bull were expected to gain more speed actually but we will see it more clearly in the race.

@swogerino Aston Martin were expected to do better on this track for example. They were believing that it was fitting them really well. But none of the drivers was impressive yesterday.

Alfa Romeo were the biggest surprise of the day by the way. Not only both drivers were in Q3 but also Zhou got the 5th place amazingly.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 22, 2023, 05:31:52 PM

What a performance by Hamilton! They stole the pole position from Verstappen's hands by a one last amazing lap and he took the pole position by only 0.003s.

I didn't give him a chance even on podium in the pool. But look at what he is doing now. I didn't know Mercedes made progress this much here. Verstappen has been uncomfortable with the car for the whole weekend and he repeated it after qualifying ended as well. Norris also did a great job by taking the 3rd place and the time gap wasn't that big either. Considering that Piastri is right behind Norris as well McLaren continue to do a wonderful job recently.

This track is as I have said one of the tracks which emphasize the driving skills the most than any other track in F1.Of course there are other technical tracks like the SPA and a couple of others but in here it is a very slow track which makes the drivers skill come out first and Hamilton despite not having so good seasons during the last two he is still 7 times World Champion and he still got his driving skills as this pole shows.I am surprised at Alonso which is another very talented driver yet he could not manage to do that well,maybe it is because of the car but nevertheless he should have done better.

McLaren I am happy that they are doing so good,we need some competition to Redbull and so far looks like only them can upgrade their car further to try and win a couple of races during this season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 22, 2023, 05:31:52 PM

What a performance by Hamilton! They stole the pole position from Verstappen's hands by a one last amazing lap and he took the pole position by only 0.003s.

Hamilton really had a great lap and tomorrow, Verstappen will have to fight for a win after a long time instead of just cruising in front of everyone.
Mercedes is known for a strong race performance because usually, Mercedes has gained places in most races overally, like in Spain, Miami or Silverstone.
So, overtaking won't be easy for Verstappen in case Hamilton will stay ahead after start.
And I wouldn't write off McLaren as well. Norris and Piastri in P3 and P4 directly behind Hamilton and Verstappen will definitely have a chance to take advantage of any mistakes of Verstappen and Hamilton in front.
We know already from Silverstone, how fast McLaren can be after updates.

Clear losers of today are Aston Martin and Ferrari. Once again a poor performance with only 1 car in the top 10 for each team...

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