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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 10, 2023, 08:31:47 PM

For me was one of the most fun races to watch in a lot of time. I said it before, but i hope Mcclaren stay in this level and not drop back.

Ferrari its more of the same, always a problem, one day the drivers, the other the team, other the car, another day and the whole thing fails.

Mercedes ended up with really good points for the championship (second position Tongue

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Mercedes were lucky thanks to the safety car and Piastri was the most unlucky driver of the whole race having pitted right before the Safety Car did came in.I think McLaren not only will stay in the same level but surely they would want to upgrade their car even further,Lando together with Zack Brown said that they hope to get that first win for the season in upcoming races and which better than Hungary,a track very difficult to overtake,just taking the pole here for McLaren would be a huge achievement which can be translated further to a race win.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 10, 2023, 06:20:43 AM

I really don't how long Ferrari can continue like this. Vasseur's arrival hasn't changed things much because the same mistakes are still seen by Ferrari. The change they need the most is to replace the people who are in charge with team strategies with better ones. Otherwise whoever comes to the team Ferrari will stay the same about this topic.

As an Austrian, I have been watching Formula 1 since the times of Gerhard Berger, and until now not many drivers have managed to be very successful at Ferrari and to shape the team, the last driver who managed to correct the mistakes at Ferrari and to have the right strategy was Michael Schumacher. After that it was always a case of self defeat etc. the last few seasons it was even more blatant.

Quote from: darxiaomi on July 10, 2023, 08:31:47 PM

For me was one of the most fun races to watch in a lot of time. I said it before, but i hope Mcclaren stay in this level and not drop back.
Mercedes ended up with really good points for the championship (second position Tongue

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Mercedes was stronger in the last race, even if they made up some ground in the end. I am curious if McLaren can confirm their performance in the next race, it would be very bitter for Ferrari if they were only fourth.

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For me was one of the most fun races to watch in a lot of time. I said it before, but i hope Mcclaren stay in this level and not drop back.

Ferrari its more of the same, always a problem, one day the drivers, the other the team, other the car, another day and the whole thing fails.

Mercedes ended up with really good points for the championship (second position Tongue

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This pool has really been really good to me lately.

I'm basically last (forgot to put my picks 2 times already), but have won 2 of jeremypwr's side contests in a row - which basically pays the participation fee alone.
These Bitcointalk pools are a no-brainer to participate in, even if you're clueless about the sport you eventually come out with a win Grin

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Thank you both @cls63 and @1miau.

I wasn't expecting to take the yellow cap this week because things didn't go the way I expected in qualifying session. But the race helped me quite much and I can say especially safety car was a big help. Grin

I picked Leclerc in Norris' place on podium but Norris showed an impressive performance to climb there. As a Tifosi I'm quite unhappy with the race results in this GP at the same time. I have been wishing to see Leclerc in a title race until the end but he still can't. Ferrari still can't pull themselves together and make the right calls for their drivers consistently.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 09, 2023, 06:37:07 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on July 09, 2023, 06:21:29 AM

Quote from: swogerino on July 09, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

McLaren kept their promise for Silverstone race and the fact that even Piastri who had not been in good form recently was in 3rd place while Norris in 2nd place means that the upgrades truly have worked out.

I think it will be difficult for both of the McLaren drivers to be on the podium today but surely Lando with his experience can manage to be at least 3rd while for people blaming Perez me included,he for all of us has a good opportunity to repay us all as we bet on him to be on the top 3 and we make some nice amount of money Grin

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The bell tolls for Perez after another disappointing qualifying performance. They asked Verstappen about Perez's qualifying performance and he said that you should be able to qualify for Q3 with this car. He is right of course as Red Bull have the fastest car on the grid now. Just look at how Albon is much better than him recently with that poor Williams car. Grin

There was even a rumour like Albon would return to Red Bull but now it is said that he might be brought to Ferrari in case of Sainz's departure. Ricciardo is still the most rumoured driver to replace Perez. Perez has no choice other than climbing to podium again. At least it would be some compensation.

There is no such thing as Sainz departure on the horizont,I think you have not read the news all over the place where Ferrari extended for another two seasons with Sainz while Leclerc is near it too so there is no room for Albon to come to Ferrari,not at least before another 2 seasons end.

I think Perez has still everything under control as long as he can qualify second in points in the end of this season which is easy doable in my opinion considering he has the best car on the grid then he would be renewed his contract,why would want Redbull to ruin things as long as Max wins titles and his team mate is 2nd overall?

I feel like Ferrari did not produce a vehicle this year to be #1. Their only goal is to start second in the standings and wait for the Verstappen to go ahead. Then throwing empty stints and using the tires as far as they can go. After the third lap, the vehicle not only eats the tires, but also finishes it completely , especially if there is another vehicle in front of them. You can understand the imbalance from this: they drive 26 laps of soft tires in the same race, 19 laps of hard tires, and then 19 laps of hard tires again, for some reason. We have Hungary ahead of us, they got a bad result last year, I don't think this year will be any different. What they need to do is call Alonso back for 2 years because they need a tough guy. I'm exaggerating for the point but things are not looking so bright in my opinion.

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Just realised that we're one race away from the halfway line. Feels like time just slipped by so quickly -- it's gotta be just that I'm paying attention a lot more this season (or at least it feels like it's a nice gap in between club football's summer break).

RB's maybe 1 win away from winning constructor's (rough maths, I'm not very familiar) and Perez even 100 points behind Max is really chipping away at the points left too. Mclaren don't care. first podium in over a century, I wish I'd looked for those kinds of odds... but you know, when you do the tide doesn't go your way...

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 10, 2023, 08:33:54 AM

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Wtf.. It's weird that I never noticed or it slipped my mind but didn't know there's a prize for guys who get a yellow cap. Lolol. Ok ok, will start making some picks again and try to win some free bets. Cheesy

Tbh I'm starting to get lazy and was giving up as I don't think I could compete with you guys.

I think around 4 years ago, there wasn't enough people who really got into F1 here at BCT. Now there are guys who give good insights... Like the guy who said McLaren and Norris could possibly do well at Silverstone. I think Norris to finish on the podium spots was lined at around 12.50.

I was that guy Grin

and what is worse is that I didn't manage to put that bet,in fact I got for an hazardous bet with McLaren both teams in the points no at 3.00 and I lost it.Next time I should listen to you for the bets as you do better than me when it comes to betting,not predicting most of the times.

Last year we were only 12 people here and only us were talking in this thread,this year we are more than double and I can see the excitement at the leaderboard,check how close the fight is between many places,meaning this pool is wide open for the prize spots to many many members.

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Wtf.. It's weird that I never noticed or it slipped my mind but didn't know there's a prize for guys who get a yellow cap. Lolol. Ok ok, will start making some picks again and try to win some free bets. Cheesy

Tbh I'm starting to get lazy and was giving up as I don't think I could compete with you guys.

I think around 4 years ago, there wasn't enough people who really got into F1 here at BCT. Now there are guys who give good insights... Like the guy who said McLaren and Norris could possibly do well at Silverstone. I think Norris to finish on the podium spots was lined at around 12.50.

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Quote from: 1miau on July 09, 2023, 08:35:06 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on July 09, 2023, 05:36:03 PM

Ferrari were a disaster due to bad calls again. They could have pitted in a much more effective way. But they preferred hards instead while mediums were still seeming okay for the rest of the race.

Yes, unbelievable. Cheesy

A mixture of bad luck and bad pit strategies.

Ferrari pitting early, while Russell kept his soft tyres far longer wasn't a good decision for Ferrari and Leclerc, who pitted first, and Leclerc was really slow on hards. Still, Ferrari put Sainz on hard later as well. Roll Eyes

Doesn't Ferrari had a look at how slow Leclerc has been on hards? Going medium + soft was definitely the fastest strategy.
Of course nobody could predict the Safety Car but Sainz on hard tyres getting overtaken by 3 cars in just one lap was peak Ferrari disaster. Cheesy

Congrats @MoSala and @ILuckyGuyI for your yellow cap. Overally very close predictions and putting Hamilton on podium after Mercedes had a weak Friday and Saturday morning was a risky move, but payed off.

I really don't how long Ferrari can continue like this. Vasseur's arrival hasn't changed things much because the same mistakes are still seen by Ferrari. The change they need the most is to replace the people who are in charge with team strategies with better ones. Otherwise whoever comes to the team Ferrari will stay the same about this topic.

Ferrari can't even make the right calls with their choices of employees so how can I believe in them to improve themselves? For example Binotto must have worked as an engineer instead of team principal. He is one of the best engineers F1 has.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 09, 2023, 05:36:03 PM

Ferrari were a disaster due to bad calls again. They could have pitted in a much more effective way. But they preferred hards instead while mediums were still seeming okay for the rest of the race.

Yes, unbelievable. Cheesy

A mixture of bad luck and bad pit strategies.

Ferrari pitting early, while Russell kept his soft tyres far longer wasn't a good decision for Ferrari and Leclerc, who pitted first, and Leclerc was really slow on hards. Still, Ferrari put Sainz on hard later as well. Roll Eyes

Doesn't Ferrari had a look at how slow Leclerc has been on hards? Going medium + soft was definitely the fastest strategy.
Of course nobody could predict the Safety Car but Sainz on hard tyres getting overtaken by 3 cars in just one lap was peak Ferrari disaster. Cheesy

Congrats @MoSala and @ILuckyGuyI for your yellow cap. Overally very close predictions and putting Hamilton on podium after Mercedes had a weak Friday and Saturday morning was a risky move, but payed off.

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When it comes to the race the general look wasn't so amazing. But the start and the part after the safety car were quite interesting. Grin

Norris had a wonderful start to the race by overtaking Verstappen already. Piastri was also nearly getting past him. If Norris and Verstappen had similar cars I wonder what would have happened later on. Two British drivers who are Norris and Hamilton made the fans happy at the end of the day by being on podium.

Ferrari were a disaster due to bad calls again. They could have pitted in a much more effective way. But they preferred hards instead while mediums were still seeming okay for the rest of the race.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 09, 2023, 10:53:01 AM

McLaren was truly the best car after Redbull and even Redbull maximum in 25 laps of the race made just a 6.9s distance meaning that it was not that bad as an engine which even Russell said look how fast is that McLaren in the straight even with those hard tires.

Unfortunately Ferrari screwed it once again with their strategy,I think twice,first by making Leclerc come in the stop as the first drivers of the top at an early stage of the race compared to other drivers,the second with Sainz,he asked his race engineer please sort this out soon,and he said to him stay out,another mistake which cost them being the last places in the point,a complete disappointment for Ferrari in this race.

I am also very surprised by McLaren and I am grateful to them for this success because I like a traditional car anyway. On tradition and history, the record of consecutive wins by one team was set today by RedBull in 1988 (McLaren, Senna and Prost). Williams also celebrated its eight hundredth Grand Prix today.

Ferrari needs someone to understand why LecLerc has to pit for the second time?

So Ferrari's mistakes don't just happen this race, but for years now, and they can't get to grips with it?

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 09, 2023, 11:54:22 AM

Sigh, tried moving around some picks on gut, took a big risk, and still end up 1.5 points behind yellow cap. Superbru as usual being really slow to update so can't even really see the leaderboard to check if I moved up/down the ranks but I'll take anything below 2 points off the pack leader.

Slowly but surely, I think I can manage that. Great Hammie finish, wouldn't you say (unless you're the prancing horse)?

Great Hammie finish but yes he knows how to take profit of the situation thanks to his experience and his race engineers which by the way are completely different than those of Ferrari which seems to be screwing their drivers with their strategy race after race.

I also checked Superbru and this tournament it takes ages to confirm yet I see I am just 0.5 points behind the yellow cap winners which are two this time,as long as I maintain 0.5-1 point distance from the yellow cappers every remaining race I am sure I can end in the prize spots but it is to early to be thinking about it,let's take every race as step by step toward that goal.

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Sigh, tried moving around some picks on gut, took a big risk, and still end up 1.5 points behind yellow cap. Superbru as usual being really slow to update so can't even really see the leaderboard to check if I moved up/down the ranks but I'll take anything below 2 points off the pack leader.

Slowly but surely, I think I can manage that. Great Hammie finish, wouldn't you say (unless you're the prancing horse)?

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 09, 2023, 09:06:40 AM

Very good start from Norris, the second McLaren had also almost overtaken Verstappen and is now also putting Verstappen under pressure. Hamilton made a small mistake and is now in ninth place, Perez also had a bad start, I would have prediction LecLerc as second, I hope Ferrari doesn't ruin the race again in the pits or with the strategy.

Alonso had a good start and is already seventh.

McLaren was truly the best car after Redbull and even Redbull maximum in 25 laps of the race made just a 6.9s distance meaning that it was not that bad as an engine which even Russell said look how fast is that McLaren in the straight even with those hard tires.

Unfortunately Ferrari screwed it once again with their strategy,I think twice,first by making Leclerc come in the stop as the first drivers of the top at an early stage of the race compared to other drivers,the second with Sainz,he asked his race engineer please sort this out soon,and he said to him stay out,another mistake which cost them being the last places in the point,a complete disappointment for Ferrari in this race.

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Very good start from Norris, the second McLaren had also almost overtaken Verstappen and is now also putting Verstappen under pressure. Hamilton made a small mistake and is now in ninth place, Perez also had a bad start, I would have prediction LecLerc as second, I hope Ferrari doesn't ruin the race again in the pits or with the strategy.

Alonso had a good start and is already seventh.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 09, 2023, 06:21:29 AM

Quote from: swogerino on July 09, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

McLaren kept their promise for Silverstone race and the fact that even Piastri who had not been in good form recently was in 3rd place while Norris in 2nd place means that the upgrades truly have worked out.

I think it will be difficult for both of the McLaren drivers to be on the podium today but surely Lando with his experience can manage to be at least 3rd while for people blaming Perez me included,he for all of us has a good opportunity to repay us all as we bet on him to be on the top 3 and we make some nice amount of money Grin

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The bell tolls for Perez after another disappointing qualifying performance. They asked Verstappen about Perez's qualifying performance and he said that you should be able to qualify for Q3 with this car. He is right of course as Red Bull have the fastest car on the grid now. Just look at how Albon is much better than him recently with that poor Williams car. Grin

There was even a rumour like Albon would return to Red Bull but now it is said that he might be brought to Ferrari in case of Sainz's departure. Ricciardo is still the most rumoured driver to replace Perez. Perez has no choice other than climbing to podium again. At least it would be some compensation.

There is no such thing as Sainz departure on the horizont,I think you have not read the news all over the place where Ferrari extended for another two seasons with Sainz while Leclerc is near it too so there is no room for Albon to come to Ferrari,not at least before another 2 seasons end.

I think Perez has still everything under control as long as he can qualify second in points in the end of this season which is easy doable in my opinion considering he has the best car on the grid then he would be renewed his contract,why would want Redbull to ruin things as long as Max wins titles and his team mate is 2nd overall?

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Quote from: swogerino on July 09, 2023, 04:56:53 AM

McLaren kept their promise for Silverstone race and the fact that even Piastri who had not been in good form recently was in 3rd place while Norris in 2nd place means that the upgrades truly have worked out.

I think it will be difficult for both of the McLaren drivers to be on the podium today but surely Lando with his experience can manage to be at least 3rd while for people blaming Perez me included,he for all of us has a good opportunity to repay us all as we bet on him to be on the top 3 and we make some nice amount of money Grin

.

The bell tolls for Perez after another disappointing qualifying performance. They asked Verstappen about Perez's qualifying performance and he said that you should be able to qualify for Q3 with this car. He is right of course as Red Bull have the fastest car on the grid now. Just look at how Albon is much better than him recently with that poor Williams car. Grin

There was even a rumour like Albon would return to Red Bull but now it is said that he might be brought to Ferrari in case of Sainz's departure. Ricciardo is still the most rumoured driver to replace Perez. Perez has no choice other than climbing to podium again. At least it would be some compensation.

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