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Hoo yeah, finally put in my predictions early, caught your post jeremypwr Wink

Superbru has updated the results, I had no idea there were penalties and positions were gained and lost, and, hooray for me, I moved up to 6th spot just like Lando Norris benefiting from penalties. From 2 points off the leader, I got to only 1 point distance, so I guess I'm doing better than the average required. Seems like CLS63 retained yellow cap after all!
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Now we have entered another race week. The next race is the British Grand Prix. Silverstone can be the track to determine Perez's fate at Red Bull as well. Because recently it is speculated that Perez might be replaced by Ricciardo after this race.

yeah, next races can be decision in process for Perez, but he gave his best on Austrian race, didn't expect him to be back after bad qualifier

but, Mercedes and Aston Marton were worst, in the end Alonso was good with placement, but they could have done more, as they didn't had will to fight for better positions after not being good at qualifications

seems that having May winning all races have influence on other drivers moral
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^  Yup been saying it since Helmut Marko and Christian Horner agreed to make Ricciardo their reserve driver.  I think Marko never really liked Perez.  It showed when he made the tequila comment last year, or was it the other year.  But yeah...  Now some journos are writing it's 'possible'.  Lol.  Not only is it possible, but the writing was on the wall the moment Ricciardo came back.  He's one of Marko's golden boys in Red Bull, like Vettel before him and Verstappen right after.

Marko has a knack for discovering young talent for F1.
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Ferrari gave some hope to the fans in Canada by making the right strategies and having a solid race. But this didn't last long for them I'm afraid. There was another tactical mistake here indeed and Sainz's race got even more difficult. He showed his reaction to this bad call and a long pit stop time on the radio as well.

Now we have entered another race week. The next race is the British Grand Prix. Silverstone can be the track to determine Perez's fate at Red Bull as well. Because recently it is speculated that Perez might be replaced by Ricciardo after this race.
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Ferrari..... Ferrari.... i see the rebroadcast of the race and they were really luck in the thing of Mercedes and Aston Martin being so bad in this race, because with the awfull double stack in the pitstop they made can cost them the whole race or podiums, if Mercedes or Aston MArtin were more close.

Last fast lap for Verstappen was really stupid and risky without reason. I think it was more like a bluff.

It was very risky yes but he had a good advantage of over 23 seconds over Leclerc when he entered the pits and the average time lost there was 20-21.5 seconds,of course there was risk as a single mistake from the Redbull crew and that would have blown away the complete perfect race that Verstappen was making so far.In the end I am happy that he did that fastest lap of the race as most of us got 1 point plus in the rankings as many people here usually put Verstappen at the fastest lap and also it was his decision as the crew did not want that pit stop,Verstappen wanted it and he took the risk of doing it when everything was fine for him even without that change of tires.
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Many thanks for the congratulations but I'm not sure if the results on Superbru are arealdy final because some penalties have been applied to Sainz and Hamilton after the race. Positions might change a bit and from what I've checked, Superbru hasn't updated new results yet.

The whole thing was triggered after Aston Martin's protest, I just checked with Superbru the result hasn't been updated yet (Mondsy morning) so there might be some minor changes, the top 3 in the race are not affected by the penalties.

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1 M. Verstappen 1:25:33.607
2 C. Leclerc + 5.155
3 S. Perez + 17.188
4 L. Norris + 26.327
5 F. Alonso + 30.317
6 C. Sainz + 31.377
7 G. Russell + 48.403
8 L. Hamilton + 49.196
9 L. Stroll + 59.043
10 P. Gasly + 67.667
11 A. Albon + 79.767
12 G. Zhou + 1 Rd.
13 L. Sargeant + 1 Rd.
14 E. Ocon + 1 Rd.
15 V. Bottas + 1 Rd.
16 O. Piastri + 1 Rd.
17 N. de Vries + 1 Rd.
18 K. Magnussen + 1 Rd.
19 Y. Tsunoda + 1 Rd.
20 N. Hülkenberg DNF
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Ferrari..... Ferrari.... i see the rebroadcast of the race and they were really luck in the thing of Mercedes and Aston Martin being so bad in this race, because with the awfull double stack in the pitstop they made can cost them the whole race or podiums, if Mercedes or Aston MArtin were more close.

Last fast lap for Verstappen was really stupid and risky without reason. I think it was more like a bluff.
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It was hell of a week really.  Smiley  My placement in the leaderboard is still not good of course but this week was at least some help for me to climb four places.



This is the final look of the time penalties given to drivers in this Grand Prix. What a race it was really that drivers still continued to be punished even a long time after the end of the race.  Grin  It is such a tough track for most drivers here. Even Verstappen had issues with this before but he didn't make a big mistake in the race of course.

Perez's climb was really important for Red Bull. It was easy for him to overtake most of the drivers ahead of him of course. But the last overtakes weren't easy for him at all. Sainz made really serious difficulties for Perez and made us watch a great rivalry there.
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CLS63 and 1miau win the Yellow Cap for the Austrian GP that just finished
Many thanks for the congratulations but I'm not sure if the results on Superbru are arealdy final because some penalties have been applied to Sainz and Hamilton after the race. Positions might change a bit and from what I've checked, Superbru hasn't updated new results yet.
Thanks for the information.
If that's the case, I'll just wait another day before awarding Free Bets.  Smiley
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Congratulations to you @CLS63 & @1miau for both achieving the yellow caps for the Australian Grand Prix! Cool
boltz won the Yellow Cap for the Australian GP in April
CLS63 and 1miau win the Yellow Cap for the Austrian GP that just finished
There's a lot going on; let's try our best not to confuse everyone here  Wink

True true!

Congrats to both of them for today because it wasn't easy at all to predict this race outcome and personally I got 10 points which is not bad  Grin

Curious to see how Silverstone race will be next weekend because we saw a competitive Ferrari and a half competitive McLaren and my guess will be that Aston Martin and Mercedes will improve their car a bit here and there and if that happens , the battle for 2nd 3rd and 4th place in Constructors championship will be nuts  Grin
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Was an easy call to the podium for Perez, their car is just insane and in this track with 3 DRS (while DRS is the strongest point of RBR) was quite easy to achieve.

Ferrari its probably now the second team in the circus and it is not clear who is in the third spot.

Aston Martin is dropping from the top, also Mercedes is not he same car as 1 month ago.

Big step ahead for Mclearen, keep in mind only Norris had the upgrades and Piasti (exceptional driver IMHO) will have them from the following GP.

Piastri is a great driver but he needs to have better luck,he usually is not well known for good starts rather for strong race pace as this is his strongest point in my opinion while for Lando we all know that he is a very talented F1 driver who is lacking the car to give him his first desired win.McLaren management claimed that they will have a completely new car in Silverstone compared to the previous races and luckily that race is this very next weekend.

Ferrari is doing great I think and if with just a bit of luck and if Sainz did not have that 5 second penalty he would be on the podium also,it was not that easy for Perez as Sainz hold him up quite enough and if he did not get that penalty Perez would not have a chance to come to the podium.
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Once again my loyalty towards Oscar doesn't pay off  and I've lost my bets but I still trust him and I still think that he will find a way during this season to get important points or who knows , maybe even having a podium out of nowhere but today the luck really passed him and it's well known for not having great starts but he is well known for making almost 0 mistakes and also have a strong race pace.
I really don't know what happened to Piastri, he seemed to have a bad first half of the race and couldn't recover after that. After all, updates are looking great for McLaren and next race, Piastri will have the updates from Norris as well, so maybe we can get a good result from McLaren in Silverstone.  Smiley



Was an easy call to the podium for Perez, their car is just insane and in this track with 3 DRS (while DRS is the strongest point of RBR) was quite easy to achieve.
Perez had an amazing performance today after getting criticized for previous races.
So, in general it's still a very unexpected podium but today, everything went well for Perez making that podium possible: good race pace, good strategy where he stayed out longer and especially a weak performance from Mercedes. Hamilton didn't seemed happy at all.
But I'm still hapy for Perez getting such a great achievement done after his recent disappointing performances despite losing my bet, which is very unexpected after an excellent performance from Perez today.



CLS63 and 1miau win the Yellow Cap for the Austrian GP that just finished
Many thanks for the congratulations but I'm not sure if the results on Superbru are arealdy final because some penalties have been applied to Sainz and Hamilton after the race. Positions might change a bit and from what I've checked, Superbru hasn't updated new results yet.

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Was an easy call to the podium for Perez, their car is just insane and in this track with 3 DRS (while DRS is the strongest point of RBR) was quite easy to achieve.

Ferrari its probably now the second team in the circus and it is not clear who is in the third spot.

Aston Martin is dropping from the top, also Mercedes is not he same car as 1 month ago.

Big step ahead for Mclearen, keep in mind only Norris had the upgrades and Piasti (exceptional driver IMHO) will have them from the following GP.
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Nice call on the podium finish for Perez, coinlocket$! And I think CLS63 getting the winner wrong but making up for it with that fantastic podium bonus is well worth the 2 extra points for yellow cap.

I slipped down a ranking, 2 points off the leader yet again so I'm just hanging on here, thought I was actually being smart mixing it up with Hammie and Alonso on podium, and Ocon not in top 10 took precious points off me. Not a single position bonus this round too.
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Congratulations to you @CLS63 & @1miau for both achieving the yellow caps for the Australian Grand Prix! Cool
boltz won the Yellow Cap for the Australian GP in April
CLS63 and 1miau win the Yellow Cap for the Austrian GP that just finished
There's a lot going on; let's try our best not to confuse everyone here  Wink
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Perez can easily get a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.

The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.
Holy cow! How did you know?
He was P12 or something like this when the race began. Crazy prediction on knowing he would of gotten pole.
I had Alonso on the predictions but both Mercedes and Aston Martins had problems with the car. Even Toto mentioned this on the radio to Hamilton during the last 16 laps but Lewis shrugged it off during the post-race interviews of course because the next venue is Silverstone! Grin
Also, why aren't you on posting on the F1 thread for SB lately?
We miss your insight before the race there mate. Smiley

McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.

For now McLaren can do a solid work in only qualifying sessions. But this is still progress for them. Now they need to focus on maintaining a high performance during a whole race. Today will be another chance for them to make it work in the race as well.
Funny thing is that McLaren only had upgraded Norris car and not Piastri's which is why he hasn't improved any on the leaderboard.
If I were him I would be right pissed that they play favorites for each and every race.
He might want to get traded to another team by the year's end because of this determining factor.

1.8 on that is really value bet, maybe it will not pass, but odds should be 1.6 or even lower for NO, 1.8 looks as a gift, or bookies know something that we don't know
Maybe bookmakers expected Perez to be a bit better, at least close to Max because today, we have seen how impressive Red Bull can perform (but only Max). Perez still managed to score 2nd place in Sprint race but Verstappen had a huge lead, over 20 seconds, while Sainz was still close behind Perez. Perez didn't manage to create a gap to Sainz, so overtaking for him in traffic tomorrow will be difficult. Maybe we'll get some rain and Perez can make up more places by a chaotic race but right now, it's looking dry for tomorrow.

At least, we had a fantastic sprint race today. Amazing performance from Hulkenberg one more lap and he gains even more positions but still great result for him.

And yes, I agree, odds of 1.60 are more reasonable, maybe even 1.50.
Now, after Sprint race, odds are down to 1.52:



Still very good odds in my opinion because I don't see Perez making a podium here and then, there's always a possibility for a Verstappen DNF due to a collission or technical issues.



Perez can easily get a podium here.
Perez is in a RedBull but he's not Verstappen.  Cheesy
So far, Perez never has achieved a podium this season, when he started outside of the top 10:
Canada = started P12, finished P6
Spain = started P11, finished P4
Monaco = started P20, finished P16
Australia = started P20, finished P5

So, I don't expect an easy podium for him in Austria.
He will need a really god performance and a bit luck to achieve a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.
It's probably his best chance but he also needs to get some early overtakes or he's stuck behind midfielders while Ferrari, Aston Martin and Mercedes will pull a gap quickly. Without Safety Car or red flag, it'll be very unlikely to get past P5.

The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.
And overtake.  Wink



Well, it seems like you've analyzed the situation thoroughly and have a clear opinion on Sergio Perez's chances. Betting odds can be quite intriguing, and sometimes they do make you wonder if the bookies know something we don't. But hey, in Formula One, anything can happen, so let's see if Perez surprises us all and makes a miraculous climb up the ranks.
Yes, I've still Perez on Superbru on podium, not sure if changing it is a good move but I'll decide tomorrow, if changing picks is a good idea or not.



Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here:  

I think it is quite a sensible bet to make. Perez is really unstable here as well. He seemed way better in the sprint race today though but this is still not changing the fact that he is starting from way back of the grid. It is too difficult for him to climb until reaching podium. Even if they get very close to it I don't think he would comfortably overtake a Ferrari driver.
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I can agree here 100%. Today, Perenz finished 2nd but he also started 2nd.
Despite having clean air and no spray due to rain (Verstappen was way ahead of him), Perez struggled to create a gap to Sainz. I just can't see how he's fast enough to overtake 11 cars tomorrow, unless no big crash happens, where for example both Ferraris and Hamilton are involved in. Instead of a Perez podium, a Perez disappointment seems to be more likely.  Lips sealed
Austria doesn't seem to be a track, Perez likes to drive at.
Perez getting 2nd just shows you how dominate the Red Bull cars are and I don't see any other car no matter what upgrades they do will change this fact of F1 now until the next 11 races left of the season.
No holds barred here.

Congratulations to you @CLS63 & @1miau for both achieving the yellow caps for the Australian Austrian Grand Prix! Cool
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I would have seen Mercedes further ahead this race, but I was wrong, Mercedes was rather disappointing until Friday. The updates at Ferrari worked really well as already mentioned here, congratulations to cls63 and 1miau for a very strong 16 points each, Top

Ferrari instead have a strong race but once again their strategies lost a chance to actually let Sainz in front of Leclerc to fight Max but I really cannot understand what Ferrari is doing during the races.  Cheesy

As I have mentioned here before, if the car works, Ferrari makes mistakes with the pit stops or with the strategy.
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Once again my loyalty towards Oscar doesn't pay off  and I've lost my bets but I still trust him and I still think that he will find a way during this season to get important points or who knows , maybe even having a podium out of nowhere but today the luck really passed him and it's well known for not having great starts but he is well known for making almost 0 mistakes and also have a strong race pace.

Ferrari instead have a strong race but once again their strategies lost a chance to actually let Sainz in front of Leclerc to fight Max but I really cannot understand what Ferrari is doing during the races.  Cheesy
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A not so boring race,I was expecting a more boring one yet the fight in the lower levels made it somewhat not boring,this track thanks to being run half part of it in DRS means that it gave everyone a chance,of course Redbull is still on another planet as even a mediocre Perez who had a lot of difficulties to overtake Sainz who by the way for me is the driver of the day today for all those 5 laps that defended against the top car in a track where DRS as I said is open half of it.Ferrari had just some small upgrades from last time around while Aston Martin and Mercedes seem like they are losing ground with each passing race.Norris made also a super great race today.
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