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Quote from: boltz on June 21, 2023, 06:09:24 AM

I got the golden spoon but I'm okay with it because I had random picks for Canada but nothing really worked for me. I might keep doing random picks simply because I'm so boring of RedBull and Max dominating that I simply don't enjoy watching the race any longer. What is appeal to F1 right ? No spectacle , no crashes , no real competition , no rivalries ...nothing. It's like we are watching the same season on repeat for 3 years already. Sad

I don't know any golden spoon but of course you must have gotten the wooden spoon which is the prize that the least performing participant gets not only in this predictor but in every predictor that is run through Superbru.

I have to agree with you,the Canada race was extra boring.I think a good appeal to F1 would be to get the race done during Saturday if it is raining in order to give us fans something back to get hyped for,this to be done only when a team is dominating the F1 season for more than 2 years,of course when normal amount of rain is present just like it was this Saturday on Canada,that would be a nice rule to add to F1 but I know most likely many will disagree.

Yea , I edited my post after you corrected me and makes sense haha. I had wooden picks so I had to get a wooden spoon right ? But in my defense , I did random picks Grin

and the outcome was really a chaos one.

2nd of July we are heading into Austrian mountains for F1 and here is that one race where I see no chances for Max to lose the race or the pole.

I am afraid you are again right,the track suits Redbull really well,however last year we had Charles win there and with a clutch problem,the car could not go down than third gear so Charles did a wonderful defending race and Max was not able to overtake him on the track.This is a beautiful technical track but seeing temperatures of over 30 degree Celsius in most of Europe I highly doubt we can have a chance of rain in Austria despite Austria being a country where in the past has rained a lot.

I think no one should go with random picks,well no one except the ones who have got nothing to lose,all the others should try to collect as many possible points in each and every race thus increasing their chances of a prize.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 21, 2023, 06:28:32 AM

Quote from: boltz on June 21, 2023, 06:09:24 AM

I got the golden spoon but I'm okay with it because I had random picks for Canada but nothing really worked for me. I might keep doing random picks simply because I'm so boring of RedBull and Max dominating that I simply don't enjoy watching the race any longer. What is appeal to F1 right ? No spectacle , no crashes , no real competition , no rivalries ...nothing. It's like we are watching the same season on repeat for 3 years already. Sad

I don't know any golden spoon but of course you must have gotten the wooden spoon which is the prize that the least performing participant gets not only in this predictor but in every predictor that is run through Superbru.

I have to agree with you,the Canada race was extra boring.I think a good appeal to F1 would be to get the race done during Saturday if it is raining in order to give us fans something back to get hyped for,this to be done only when a team is dominating the F1 season for more than 2 years,of course when normal amount of rain is present just like it was this Saturday on Canada,that would be a nice rule to add to F1 but I know most likely many will disagree.

Yea , I edited my post after you corrected me and makes sense haha. I had wooden picks so I had to get a wooden spoon right ? But in my defense , I did random picks Grin

and the outcome was really a chaos one.

2nd of July we are heading into Austrian mountains for F1 and here is that one race where I see no chances for Max to lose the race or the pole.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 21, 2023, 07:37:39 AM

The thing is Verstappen is pretty fast under wet track conditions too. But yeah, I also hope it rains as prolly the best three drivers on the grid who work best in the rain are Alonso, Hamilton and Verstappen. There are prolly a couple or so more guys but those three stick out.

Anyway, does anybody else feel like Perez won't be given another extension on his contract? It ends next year after 2024 season. I think Ricciardo will be driver no. 2 at RBR at 2025.

Verstappen is really dominating in every track condition. But still there is a chance to watch a more competitive race generally in case of rain here. If we see dry track then I don't know how big gap Verstappen would have with the others. In the previous season's Austrian GP Leclerc and Verstappen had an insane gap with the others starting with 40 seconds or so.

Leclerc was able to compete with Verstappen at the same level in some races in those times at least. But now there is literally nobody who can. Perez started the season well but now he is also struggling a lot.

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Quote from: 1miau on June 20, 2023, 08:29:49 PM

Quote from: rdbase on June 20, 2023, 06:56:17 PM

Austria is where Red Bull practice and take test runs on to their own home track for the off-season.
Last season Max was in a sea of orange smoke and I can't see it being any different this time around.

Maybe it'll rain this time in Austria.
So far, we haven't seen any rain in Austria as I can remember, which is quite surprising, considering rain is pretty common in the Alps, where Spielberg is located. Similar like Belgium, rain can come up in a very short time and if rain is coming up, it'll be heavy.
Might be an interesting race, especially the last corner and the corners after 1st (uphill) and 2nd (downhill) long straight. Personally, I'll hope for rain.

So, maybe we won't see any orange smoke due to rain.
We might know later. Tongue

The thing is Verstappen is pretty fast under wet track conditions too. But yeah, I also hope it rains as prolly the best three drivers on the grid who work best in the rain are Alonso, Hamilton and Verstappen. There are prolly a couple or so more guys but those three stick out.

Anyway, does anybody else feel like Perez won't be given another extension on his contract? It ends next year after 2024 season. I think Ricciardo will be driver no. 2 at RBR at 2025.

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Quote from: boltz on June 21, 2023, 06:09:24 AM

I got the golden spoon but I'm okay with it because I had random picks for Canada but nothing really worked for me. I might keep doing random picks simply because I'm so boring of RedBull and Max dominating that I simply don't enjoy watching the race any longer. What is appeal to F1 right ? No spectacle , no crashes , no real competition , no rivalries ...nothing. It's like we are watching the same season on repeat for 3 years already. Sad

I don't know any golden spoon but of course you must have gotten the wooden spoon which is the prize that the least performing participant gets not only in this predictor but in every predictor that is run through Superbru.

I have to agree with you,the Canada race was extra boring.I think a good appeal to F1 would be to get the race done during Saturday if it is raining in order to give us fans something back to get hyped for,this to be done only when a team is dominating the F1 season for more than 2 years,of course when normal amount of rain is present just like it was this Saturday on Canada,that would be a nice rule to add to F1 but I know most likely many will disagree.

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I got the golden spoon but I'm okay with it because I had random picks for Canada but nothing really worked for me. I might keep doing random picks simply because I'm so boring of RedBull and Max dominating that I simply don't enjoy watching the race any longer. What is appeal to F1 right ? No spectacle , no crashes , no real competition , no rivalries ...nothing. It's like we are watching the same season on repeat for 3 years already. Sad

EDIT : wooden spoon indeed as I had wooden picks Grin

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Quote from: rdbase on June 20, 2023, 06:56:17 PM

Thanks for the congratulations @buwaytress @1miau @ILuckyGuyI @Koal-84 and of course @CLS63 for maintaining this F1 pool thread!
Only just noticed these mentions so it was nice to see them.

Austria is where Red Bull practice and take test runs on to their own home track for the off-season.
Last season Max was in a sea of orange smoke and I can't see it being any different this time around.
Just question is how far behind will Perez be from him in the front row at the start of the race?

It is nice to have you here as well.

When it comes to the Austria GP it is surely likely to see orange smoke everywhere among Verstappen fans. Grin

He loves this atmosphere a lot as well and does his best to take the win in the race as well. But the previous race didn't end up in favour of him you know. He was great in qualifying and sprint sessions both by finishing as the leader. However in the race the winner was Leclerc. There was already a great competition between them before the race too. It was Ferrari's better times.

However now Verstappen is a solid favourite to take that win by a satisfying level of dominance. Alonso and Hamilton seem the second strongest drivers lately but their job is very difficult against Verstappen as usual.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 20, 2023, 06:56:17 PM

Austria is where Red Bull practice and take test runs on to their own home track for the off-season.
Last season Max was in a sea of orange smoke and I can't see it being any different this time around.

Maybe it'll rain this time in Austria.
So far, we haven't seen any rain in Austria as I can remember, which is quite surprising, considering rain is pretty common in the Alps, where Spielberg is located. Similar like Belgium, rain can come up in a very short time and if rain is coming up, it'll be heavy.
Might be an interesting race, especially the last corner and the corners after 1st (uphill) and 2nd (downhill) long straight. Personally, I'll hope for rain.

So, maybe we won't see any orange smoke due to rain.
We might know later. Tongue

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Thanks for the congratulations @buwaytress @1miau @ILuckyGuyI @Koal-84 and of course @CLS63 for maintaining this F1 pool thread!
Only just noticed these mentions so it was nice to see them.

Austria is where Red Bull practice and take test runs on to their own home track for the off-season.
Last season Max was in a sea of orange smoke and I can't see it being any different this time around.
Just question is how far behind will Perez be from him in the front row at the start of the race?

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 19, 2023, 04:51:45 AM

Quote from: 1miau on June 18, 2023, 05:41:07 PM

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Overally, a bad performance from Perez once again...

yeah, pretty disappointing from him, not sure what is happening

Really difficult to say, Perez seems to be very inconsistent depending on tracks. In Baku for example, he seemed to be faster compared to Verstappen, even not considering Verstappen's bad strategy, where Verstappen boxed too early. Perez also won Sprint in Baku.
On many other tracks, Verstappen is much better compared to Perez but Verstappen is consistently better than the rest of the field, while Perez had several races, where he missed the podium.

Maybe Canada was a difficult race for Red Bull in general because also Verstappen didn't get a dominat gap to Alonso / Hamilton as usual.
Tyre degradation has been very low in Canada. Even Ferrari didn't suffer from tyre degradation.
So, probably tyre degradation is a factor making Red Bull dominant if we'll have high tyre degradation because Red Bull is an efficient car.

While in Spain for example, Red Bull was much more dominant, we had much more tyre degradation.

Maybe it's related to that and Perez is just a multiplicator when a track doesn't suit Red Bull.
I remember Australia as well, where Perez had a horrible performance, Red Bull wasn't dominant there as Verstappen won but was overtaken by Hamilton early in the race, until Verstappen overtook him back.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 19, 2023, 02:11:39 PM

Last year,the first season of this predictor pool I started from the very bottom place but in the middle of the season I did 8-9 consecutive races missing the top place by just 0.5 to 1 point and that is what brought me to that third place which was the last place of the paying spots.I had even lost three times the EBP and the pole sitter.Why am I telling all this,because consistency is key in this pool,as long as we do 0.5 to 1 point distance from the first place every remaining race there is no chance that the one who achieve such result won't end up in the paying spots,that is what I think the beauty of this pool,there are always chances to catch up here much different than football pools.

Yup! That's precisely why I think I need to really improve my performance. 2 points off the top every race is not enough -- you do need 0.5 to 1 point off it, as you say, consistently, to ensure you make a great overall season. I chased too early last season actually, trying to catch a break but the key in F1 (actually, all pools) is just to stick to a strategy that brings as many points as possible. To be fair, I also think that works for football pool. In seasons I've won, I've tended to just stick to the conservative picks after getting a good position.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on June 19, 2023, 09:38:44 AM

Quote from: 1miau on June 18, 2023, 05:41:07 PM

At least, Bottas got a points finish today (position 10), he scored 2 points finishes in 8 races so far. So overally, it's still been a great weekend for Bottas but a podium is pretty much impossible this season for him. Undecided

But I also think Bottas is just a mediocre driver for the midfield or the back of the midfield, he is now driving where I think he can be, with Hamilton in the Mercedes he was an excellent wingman in the absolute best car in the field, but for me personally no more and no less.

Zhou is only in his second season and has almost the same points as Bottas.

Bottas was really quite impressive last weekend. He managed to get that one point by finishing in 10th place. However Norris' 5-second time penalty due to double-stacking in pit lane also was a big help for Bottas. Alfa Romeo is having a quite difficult season so every point is really important for them.

Zhou is indeed doing good against Bottas this season. Considering that Bottas is a much more experienced driver this is a good work by Zhou. As long as Alfa Romeo doesn't bring a huge update package in the near future it looks difficult for them to have a consistent season.

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 19, 2023, 10:04:48 AM

Ok I didn't do too badly on hindsight, though have to say in this pool finishing two points off the pack leaders is quite a distance... Seem to be either dropping off a position or keeping steady every race but just have to keep hoping one of you bastards slip up.

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Last year,the first season of this predictor pool I started from the very bottom place but in the middle of the season I did 8-9 consecutive races missing the top place by just 0.5 to 1 point and that is what brought me to that third place which was the last place of the paying spots.I had even lost three times the EBP and the pole sitter.Why am I telling all this,because consistency is key in this pool,as long as we do 0.5 to 1 point distance from the first place every remaining race there is no chance that the one who achieve such result won't end up in the paying spots,that is what I think the beauty of this pool,there are always chances to catch up here much different than football pools.

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It would have been better if we saw some competition for winning the race. But I still won't say that it was a completely boring race. Because in the other areas there was a really nice competition between drivers. Alonso and Hamilton were comfortable about having a podium finish. However there was still a lovely fight between them for the second place.

Both drivers seemed quite contented with this delightful competition. It would have been nice to see Perez in Alonso's place. Because I picked Perez for the second place. Grin

But that horrible qualifying performance made things very difficult already. We couldn't see a proper climb from him either. Verstappen is again alone in the leadership.

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Ok I didn't do too badly on hindsight, though have to say in this pool finishing two points off the pack leaders is quite a distance... Seem to be either dropping off a position or keeping steady every race but just have to keep hoping one of you bastards slip up.

Nice win rdbase!

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Quote from: swogerino on June 18, 2023, 03:07:24 PM

If you found all podium places correctly you get a nice additional 2 points bonus and in a race like that with Russell and Stroll out of the top 10 those 2 points are of vital importance,personally I did not well for the second consecutive race and I am losing steam in this predictor pool of F1 this year.

Exactly, I got extra points for the whole podium, not a bad week with 13 points, but to catch up with the leaders it was not enough

Quote from: 1miau on June 18, 2023, 05:41:07 PM

At least, Bottas got a points finish today (position 10), he scored 2 points finishes in 8 races so far. So overally, it's still been a great weekend for Bottas but a podium is pretty much impossible this season for him. Undecided

But I also think Bottas is just a mediocre driver for the midfield or the back of the midfield, he is now driving where I think he can be, with Hamilton in the Mercedes he was an excellent wingman in the absolute best car in the field, but for me personally no more and no less.

Zhou is only in his second season and has almost the same points as Bottas.

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Congratulation, good tips for the last weekend Wink

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 19, 2023, 08:36:34 AM

Quote from: boltz on June 17, 2023, 10:52:15 AM

I just did a random pick for this round of F1 as I still believe we will have 1 chaos race and it seems that Canada might be that one.

Also , after Ferrari won LeMans , I went with Lec to get another podium , followed by a victory and 1-2 podium for Ferrari with both Max and Lewis having a DNF as I didn't take neither of them for top 10. Instead , I went with Perez to take 3rd place and also the fastest lap of the race. Grin

I did the same and didn't change my picks after quali... But I got my best result in the pool thus far because of it. Cheesy

I think I'll be doing just that from here on out. I don't think I'll be fighting for the money spots anyway since I'm ranked 22th at the table.

Can't wait for the next races, Austria, Silverstone, Hungary then we go to Belgium! I hope it doesn't rain in Belgium. Spa is prolly my favorite track of all time.

Spa I think is the favorite of all the F1 fans as it is a track well over 7 km,the longest in the F1 calendar and a very technical track which somewhat emphasize drivers skill more than the car power,of course the car power is needed to win the race but I am talking here about the fight for the other spots as 1st and 2nd most likely are Redbull spots here if Perez does not screw up again.

Good for you that you got that many points with random picks,in fact it was tight there in the standings from what I have seen not a lot of differences in the first 15 spots so keep going with randomness and who knows you maybe coming for those prize spots until the end.

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Quote from: boltz on June 17, 2023, 10:52:15 AM

I just did a random pick for this round of F1 as I still believe we will have 1 chaos race and it seems that Canada might be that one.

Also , after Ferrari won LeMans , I went with Lec to get another podium , followed by a victory and 1-2 podium for Ferrari with both Max and Lewis having a DNF as I didn't take neither of them for top 10. Instead , I went with Perez to take 3rd place and also the fastest lap of the race. Grin

I did the same and didn't change my picks after quali... But I got my best result in the pool thus far because of it. Cheesy

I think I'll be doing just that from here on out. I don't think I'll be fighting for the money spots anyway since I'm ranked 22th at the table.

Can't wait for the next races, Austria, Silverstone, Hungary then we go to Belgium! I hope it doesn't rain in Belgium. Spa is prolly my favorite track of all time.

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Quote from: 1miau on June 18, 2023, 05:41:07 PM

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Overally, a bad performance from Perez once again...

I agree with you on this topic. Perez couldn't even overtake Ferrari drivers and the race also ended up badly for him. The whole weekend was a mess for him of course. At least he went for the fastest lap by getting soft tyres before the end of the race and became helpful for his team too by getting that extra point.

If Perez goes on being inconsistent throughout the season then I think he might even be replaced by another driver before next season. He signed a two-year extension on May 2022 but this doesn't guarantee his place in the team anyway. Let's say Red Bull decided to do this then one of my favourite options would be Alonso. I feel confident that he can be a great rival for Verstappen for the championship. Alonso is still very competitive and hungry for winning another title.

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 19, 2023, 04:51:45 AM

Quote from: 1miau on June 18, 2023, 05:41:07 PM

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Overally, a bad performance from Perez once again...

yeah, pretty disappointing from him, not sure what is happening
overall, having Alonso and Hamilton on a podium is good for F1, at least race for second place is becoming more interesting, since Max is already champion IMO

regarding race, watch some parts, and it was pretty boring, nothing much to see during the race, and top three closing on qualifications schedule
kudos to Bottas, he got point, but podium would really an achievement with his car

I think he had a really big odd Bottas to be in top 10 drivers and I think those bold enough to bet on him in the end of the race to be inside the points threshold got a nice reward for their courage.The race was boring yes but it is because of all other teams not being able to keep up with Redbull and what makes it even more boring is the fact that Perez does not know to drive well enough in order to put pressure on the other cars,I am sure if it was Verstappen in Perez place would have been in the podium as a minimum,his driving style is much more aggressive and that is what is needed from a driver in F1 in general,not some drivers who just know how to drive a F1 car.

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