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Topic: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread - page 95. (Read 22042 times)

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I went with Leclerc today for the first time this season, pole and fastest. This is only because it seems this is where his old magic can still happen so hope I didn't lose from ignoring what has happened so far this season Smiley

But still I'm not confident he has what it takes to win or shall I say, no confidence in Ferrari at all.

Prediction picks went totally different so I should be right in one of them lol
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The boring part is that the drivers can't overtake each other that easy as there isn't a long straight in any part of the track. There are only 2 parts which might be a chance for that. One of them is the start straight and the other one is the short straight right after the exit of the tunnel. But still it is very difficult to attack in any of those parts too.

It's true, Monaco is pretty boring for the spectators, overtaking is almost impossible, most likely during a pit stop...

Pole position is very important in Monaco, it looks like Verstappen will dominate again, or can Ferrari still improve, Leclerc was not far behind Verstappen in practice.
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The Monaco GP track is a quite difficult one to drive on among the all races in the calendar. Even a simple mistake can cost you too much just as it happened to Albon in FP1. He lost control of his car at the end of the start straight and crashed into the wall which damaged his car quite badly. Therefore being wide awake is essential in Monaco GP. I even see this race as the most difficult one for the drivers in terms of that.

The boring part is that the drivers can't overtake each other that easy as there isn't a long straight in any part of the track. There are only 2 parts which might be a chance for that. One of them is the start straight and the other one is the short straight right after the exit of the tunnel. But still it is very difficult to attack in any of those parts too.
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At this prediction pool, I've already made my predictions before practice, but I find it very difficult to judge Ferrari, I think they could be fast on one lap, but to win the race, I think Ferrari is too slow, even if you basically can't overtake in Monaco. But I think Alonso could definitely finish second. In today's practice, you can certainly already see a small tendency.
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Can someone explain to me what makes this particular race "boring" compared to the other races?  Smiley

The fact that not much happens if the race is linear,the drivers even with the best cars cannot pass a lot of positions,for example this race would be very beautiful if Verstappen to start 15th or 17th on the grid,in here the car cannot help much and as such all that remains to help is his talent,if he goes for example like Senna did in 1984 that got from a lot of behind positions in a full wet race to second and he was about to win the race when FIA directors decided to stop the race clearly favoring the first guy.

Now if this does not happen then it is going to be a boring race for sure.
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Can someone explain to me what makes this particular race "boring" compared to the other races?  Smiley

In my opinion, it's one of the better ones.
The race itself might be boring at first glance, but for me F1 is mostly boring when a team is dominating like Red Bull is currently and that is the case in formula quite often.

Tracks like these with not a lot of places for overtaking lead to more strategic races with room for potential surprises in the final standings.

I also like the feel of the race and it's one of the rare ones I tend not to miss.
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I think Perez is rightly the favorite, however I still think Verstappen has the distance in his armory to pull it right from the start, I have a feeling even from pole Perez will have some incident with (Ferarri lol).

The incident happened last year stemmed from the big mistake Ferrari pit wall made.
And what happened year before that?  Smiley
If it happens once ok, but when it happens more time than it is not coincidence.
Leclerc had to withdraw from the race before the race started in the year before that. And Verstappen won the race who started it in first place. You can win against a car which withdraws from the race before it starts with even a bicycle.  Grin

I think it can happen twice, if it happens three times you have to fire the idiots or the pit crew, most likely the managers though lol

I say twice because shit always happens same things twice before you make a resolve to stop things from happening Wink
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The incident happened last year stemmed from the big mistake Ferrari pit wall made.
And what happened year before that?  Smiley
If it happens once ok, but when it happens more time than it is not coincidence.


Leclerc had to withdraw from the race before the race started in the year before that. And Verstappen won the race who started it in first place. You can win against a car which withdraws from the race before it starts with even a bicycle.  Grin
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The incident happened last year stemmed from the big mistake Ferrari pit wall made.
And what happened year before that?  Smiley
If it happens once ok, but when it happens more time than it is not coincidence.

Did you guys saw the latest odds for winner of this year Monaco Grand Prix?
Team Red Bull have the biggest advantage in tracks like this and Perez is defending win from last year, that makes him a favorite in my eyes.
He made some tactical mistakes in last race and he needs to come back strong in Monaco, but Ferrari is not without chances for top 3 positions.
I hope something strange wont happen with weather again because Monaco is well known for unpredictable weather conditions. 


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So Honda struck a partnership deal with Aston Martin to be the latter's engine manufacturer for 2026 and beyond.  A couple of things...  Didn't Honda say they're leaving F1 because they couldn't keep up with the costs then cut their ties with Red Bull?  And what changed their mind and what about the costs? 

Hopefully Alonso is still around by then.

Anyway won a bet riding the Celtics with my free bet from Sportsbet.  Lol.  Betting everything on either RBR car to make the fastest lap at 1.90.

Yes i coming to say that, i dont know what Honda its doing, one day they said they leave F1, and the other they say we stay....

About Alonso staying or not.... 2026 its a really long way to go. I think he its gonna be retired by that time, and better for him, i dont want to heard again him saying "GP2 engine"
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So Honda struck a partnership deal with Aston Martin to be the latter's engine manufacturer for 2026 and beyond.  A couple of things...  Didn't Honda say they're leaving F1 because they couldn't keep up with the costs then cut their ties with Red Bull?  And what changed their mind and what about the costs? 

Hopefully Alonso is still around by then.

Anyway won a bet riding the Celtics with my free bet from Sportsbet.  Lol.  Betting everything on either RBR car to make the fastest lap at 1.90.
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maybe it is not that always pole position wins the race, but it is that is hard to overtake someone in Monaco, and usually race is pretty boring to watch (separate from nice surroundings)
it is a similar situation with marathon races, where nothing much happening during first hour and a half in the race, or mostly nothing, but you can see some cities from different perspective, or with cycling tours - Tour de France for example, usually just final sprint is interesting stuff, and other parts are mostly looking at environment and nature
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Monaco track has been one of F1's classical tracks. But it is very tight because of being a street track and it is very difficult to overtake a driver. As long as teams don't make any mistake the winner of pole position wins the race as well.
I dont think your theory is alwys correct for pole positions, but I agree for other things you said.
Last year pole position didnt win the race, Charles Leclerc had pole position and Perez won the race.
I think it was similar situation in 2021 when Leclerc again had pole position but  Max Verstappen won the race.


I didn't say that the winner of pole position always wins the race in Monaco. I meant that he wins most probably if teams don't make any mistake. When we look at the example you have given, Verstappen started in pole position and won the race because of the damage on Leclerc's car even though Leclerc won pole position in 2021.

The incident happened last year stemmed from the big mistake Ferrari pit wall made.
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Monaco track has been one of F1's classical tracks. But it is very tight because of being a street track and it is very difficult to overtake a driver. As long as teams don't make any mistake the winner of pole position wins the race as well.
I dont think your theory is alwys correct for pole positions, but I agree for other things you said.
Last year pole position didnt win the race, Charles Leclerc had pole position and Perez won the race.
I think it was similar situation in 2021 when Leclerc again had pole position but  Max Verstappen won the race.
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Can someone explain to me what makes this particular race "boring" compared to the other races?  Smiley

Monaco track has been one of F1's classical tracks. But it is very tight because of being a street track and it is very difficult to overtake a driver. As long as teams don't make any mistake the winner of pole position wins the race as well.
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Can someone explain to me what makes this particular race "boring" compared to the other races?  Smiley
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I always said the same with Monaco race, to watch its one of the most boring race in calendar, but for the drivers.... they love Monaco, because its the most similar to a kart race, and they love that because its when you use more skills than ever to drive, passing really close to the barriers everytime.
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For Monaco, they should have an Indy500 style of qualifying since there's not that lot of racing  Grin

I think that is the beauty of Monaco in the first place,qualifying decides 90% of the race and this track is really slow compared to other tracks as the max speed goes to 293 Km/h,at least that is what I saw on the last race here last season and at such low speeds the fight between the top teams can be quite entertaining.I am expecting a very focused Fernando Alonso with his Aston Martin here as to get the pole here is very much possible if he makes a perfect lap which he has the capability to do so,which in turn would promise to all of us a beautiful race with Redbull and Ferrari chasing them.May be this most likely won't come true but I believe a lot in Aston Martin and Alonso for this qualifying to make the race beautiful.
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For Monaco, they should have an Indy500 style of qualifying since there's not that lot of racing  Grin
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Finally we are again in race week,I was expecting impatiently the Imola race as that is a legendary track,very technical so I was expecting a lot of happenings there when I saw the news that made us all F1 fans sad that the GP was cancelled due to flooding last week.I doubt we will see a Monaco race cancelled as this is most of the time a boring race but it is one of the richest places and just a bit of rain would make this race as beautiful as last year,I only hope that Ferrari team management does not screw up the drivers with their not so well thought race strategies.
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