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I think that even with current squad, Barca results can't be justified. We should be in Top 4 in La Liga I think and fight for 2nd place in CL group. I hope that return of Fati will help, but as we saw, it will took some time for him to get into optimal condition.

Exactly, Barcelona are in shambles but we've still got a squad capable of grinding out results, and what we are getting is way far from what the team is capable of under the right management, which I'm insistent on Koeman leaving, but it looks like we'll likely be stuck with for the while.

He should always go for what he wants from a match, you don't go into a game with a mindset of not losing with a team like Barcelona.

That's just the weight of expectation on them really. I remember when Liverpool were plumbing trade in 6th or 7th place most of the time and arguably, they had the squad that should have been below 10th. Many critics will also say we should be in 3rd/4th at best, but every season we seem to overperform and get 1st/2nd of late.

Grinding out results have never really been Barca's traits I'd say. They know how to win and to subdue opponents, but don't really know how to tough it out for 3 points.

Anyway, everyone back on International duty and here's a silver lining for you: Barca still has a Spanish spine whereas in the last UCL outing for Real, there were exactly zero Spanish players... so if Spain beat Italy and have a few good games maybe they take some of that back to the league later.
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I think that even with current squad, Barca results can't be justified. We should be in Top 4 in La Liga I think and fight for 2nd place in CL group. I hope that return of Fati will help, but as we saw, it will took some time for him to get into optimal condition.

yeah, agree on this, but it will be hard
Barca is lucky that Benfica did not win over Dinamo, since that would be an almost impossible mission, now it could happen, but Benfica is in a really good position to stay on position 2, it is surreal to see Barcelona on last position without points and goal diff 0:6 after two matches, that would be miserable for any team that joins CL group stage

in La Liga, it is a "luck" that there is not enough quality opponents, so most probably Barca will finish within top4 (I really doubt that outside Madrid duo and Sevilla any team could finish above Barca, although hope that Valencia can do that Smiley )
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I know it's an oversimplification of a convoluted problem there but you know what? Get a point against Valencia. Win against Dynamo and they can breathe a little easier.

Take heart, Harkorede and slaman29 Wink

I know, thanks for that, my heart cannot be broken worse than it currently is thanks to Messi lol

But just kidding for sure, I mean I was the one last season already asking for Barca or rather hoping, that that was the season they broke. Winning no cups, finishing outside UCL spots, and just playing badly all season.

That would force the club to let go of all the deadweight and rebuild.

The rebuild happens now and the people are being let go, but because of money rather than performance, so my wish sort of came true but in the worst way possible. That's okay, new team new life for next season. I hope!
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I think that even with current squad, Barca results can't be justified. We should be in Top 4 in La Liga I think and fight for 2nd place in CL group. I hope that return of Fati will help, but as we saw, it will took some time for him to get into optimal condition.

Exactly, Barcelona are in shambles but we've still got a squad capable of grinding out results, and what we are getting is way far from what the team is capable of under the right management, which I'm insistent on Koeman leaving, but it looks like we'll likely be stuck with for the while.

He should always go for what he wants from a match, you don't go into a game with a mindset of not losing with a team like Barcelona.
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another tough round for me, and I am a bit down in the pool, but it is a long season

why do you think that it is not making any sense? Sociedad is a good team, but to win every match on a side is too much for Atletico, and for Sociedad as well
Yeah, it's not likely that Spciedad will play so good all season long. But until now Getafe looked completely awful and they didn't looked like a team who can take points in this game.

I still feel like there's light at the end of the tunnel so they cal salvage their season with just UCL qualification -- and at least group progress. Coutinho, Depay, Fati, just some names who have to perform. Distribute Messi's burden among themselves, so to speak. There are other big names in that team but I'm not even counting on them (as their problem now is to fix their confidence and that only happens when they can score frantically as they used to again).

I know it's an oversimplification of a convoluted problem there but you know what? Get a point against Valencia. Win against Dynamo and they can breathe a little easier.

Take heart, Harkorede and slaman29 Wink
I think that even with current squad, Barca results can't be justified. We should be in Top 4 in La Liga I think and fight for 2nd place in CL group. I hope that return of Fati will help, but as we saw, it will took some time for him to get into optimal condition.
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I doubt that's possible fundamental changes during international break. But maybe this break can help team to clean out their heads heads a bit. I'm looking at our schedule after break and it looks damn difficult. First against Valencia which looking good this season, then decisive game in CL against Dynamo for 3rd place and El Clasico. I think every of these games can be last for Koeman.

Well, win or lose, he's stuck with them so they better get used to it. I think the contract and their finances are part of the problem but the other is finding a superior replacement in this non-off season period. Impossible I think.

I still feel like there's light at the end of the tunnel so they cal salvage their season with just UCL qualification -- and at least group progress. Coutinho, Depay, Fati, just some names who have to perform. Distribute Messi's burden among themselves, so to speak. There are other big names in that team but I'm not even counting on them (as their problem now is to fix their confidence and that only happens when they can score frantically as they used to again).

I know it's an oversimplification of a convoluted problem there but you know what? Get a point against Valencia. Win against Dynamo and they can breathe a little easier.

Take heart, Harkorede and slaman29 Wink
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Even as a Barca fan, I didn't let my heart get the better of my head, I would have been happy if Barca had without minding lost points in the pool, but I strongly doubted Barcelona chances of winning, so I instead just went with Atletico knowing I can only win some, lose some, not lose all.

A couple of result were also unexpected for me this week too, Getafe securing a draw against Real Sociedad and Sevilla also losing to Granada.
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@casperBGC don't be sad, look at me. This is MY league, or at least I thought so, and I'm bottom 2 seasons in a row.

Nice! Bigger prizes than last season  Cool good job, @Trofo, and thx again for the sponsorship @buwaytress 👍

anyway, this international break came in clutch for Barcelona, no? 2 weeks to cool down a bit, plenty of time to try to figure out again just wth is going on...but, is it gonna the calm before the storm?

Yeah I think we really have it so good here on this forum. Nothing comes close to the Sportsbet work in crypto and sports, and then all you great guys, constantly giving and helping this forum grow, we really need to appreciate all of you.

About Barca, yes, a break to recover and come back stronger. But I remember last season I said it was time for us to collapse so we know how bad we are. Maybe this is the season it happens. We don't win anything and just go down so bad. We need to have that. Only from ruins can we rebuild. They say every fan must go through moments of toughness. I guess this is finally mine Smiley

one of them had 1-4 Barcelona...damn!!  Grin

Man, even I as a Barca fan only went 2-1, but rdbase you went for 1-4, so maybe you're a bigger and more faithful/loyal fan than me it seems;) But don't worry, we will get a scoreline like that this season. Maybe in King's Cup lol
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@casperBGD, how did you managed to predict Getafe and Real Sociedad draw? Because this result doesn't makes much sense Cheesy


another tough round for me, and I am a bit down in the pool, but it is a long season

why do you think that it is not making any sense? Sociedad is a good team, but to win every match on a side is too much for Atletico, and for Sociedad as well

it is a question for me why did not I put Granada to win, with Maximiano on goal, they will conceive much less goals in the future, and this is first clean sheet, nevertheless, he brough me another reward on sorare, so missing points in the pool is forgotten

now, we have an international break
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Real lost to Espanyol, but when my team is shit, Real losses don't give me so much joy. But recent results shows that not everything is OK with Real.
In predictor I started this round quite well, but from Sundaay games I will get 0 points (if Sevilla won't beat Granada).
@casperBGD, how did you managed to predict Getafe and Real Sociedad draw? Because this result doesn't makes much sense Cheesy

anyway, this international break came in clutch for Barcelona, no? 2 weeks to cool down a bit, plenty of time to try to figure out again just wth is going on...but, is it gonna the calm before the storm?
I doubt that's possible fundamental changes during international break. But maybe this break can help team to clean out their heads heads a bit. I'm looking at our schedule after break and it looks damn difficult. First against Valencia which looking good this season, then decisive game in CL against Dynamo for 3rd place and El Clasico. I think every of these games can be last for Koeman.
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Nice! Bigger prizes than last season  Cool good job, @Trofo, and thx again for the sponsorship @buwaytress 👍

anyway, this international break came in clutch for Barcelona, no? 2 weeks to cool down a bit, plenty of time to try to figure out again just wth is going on...but, is it gonna the calm before the storm?

It is a though most people from the pool went with Atletico to win, which obviously was an easy decision since only 3 people went other way.
one of them had 1-4 Barcelona...damn!!  Grin
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Prizes for this season:

We have 62 mBTC (40 mBTC Sportsbet sponsorship + 5 buwaytress sponsorship + 17x1 mBTC  buy in fee) in the pool, I decided to award first 4 places and best yellow cap this season.
1. place - 27 mBTC (minus tx fees)
2. place - 15 mBTC
3. place - 10 mBTC
4. place - 5 mBTC
Highest yellow cap - 5 mBTC

Remarks:
*There is no sharing of the prizes, Superbru has implemented tie breakers and I will use their final table as basis to pay out rewards
*All transaction fees will be paid out from first prize. I boosted this one with extra 2mBTC when compered to Serie A thread so it seemed like most fair solution. 
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No, no, it was less than 50$ per person and rest is Sponsorship money, buy in was 1 mBTC, not sure what was BTC then but it was probably around 40k. You gave 5 mBTC sponsorship money into the pool and Sportsbet gave very generous 40 mBTC. We have 17 participants per 1 mBTC so that gives following pool:
40 (Sportsbet) + 5 (buwaytress) + 17 (all participants) = 62 mBTC ~ little less than 3000$ at the moment.
That is the beauty of blockchain, I can check what happened very easy and so can all of you. Granted it is even easier for me since I labeled the transactions as they were coming.

Really can't believe there is not at least 50 players here. When you also add the chance to win 1 mBTC free bet every week and 0.5 mBTC participating free bet that everyone got, value proposition is through the roof.

There is very similar calculation for Serie A, just 2 mBTC less since we have 2 participants more here.

Thanks man. Blame my Sunday memory, back of my head I knew about the sponsorship money, but my brain somehow computed the $3000 as participants' fees.

17 players, 3/4 prize spots.
Half of fee returned as Freebets.
Weekly freebets where chances are you get 2 throughout the season if you're really poor.
150%++ of fee as sponsorship money.

These pools are by far the best value, we need to talk about them often, and especially end of the next season in the regular La Liga/Serie A threads to get even more people playing. I know there are fewer gamblers than the forum discussion threads suggest but yeah, still strange to get only this few people.
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I have no preferences, but remind me if I haven't paid up for anything (my PMs are a maze right now).

Effing hell, $3000 per pool, I didn't realise it was that much. What was the fee each again? 15 participants means about $200 each??
No, no, it was less than 50$ per person and rest is Sponsorship money, buy in was 1 mBTC, not sure what was BTC then but it was probably around 40k. You gave 5 mBTC sponsorship money into the pool and Sportsbet gave very generous 40 mBTC. We have 17 participants per 1 mBTC so that gives following pool:
40 (Sportsbet) + 5 (buwaytress) + 17 (all participants) = 62 mBTC ~ little less than 3000$ at the moment.
That is the beauty of blockchain, I can check what happened very easy and so can all of you. Granted it is even easier for me since I labeled the transactions as they were coming.

Really can't believe there is not at least 50 players here. When you also add the chance to win 1 mBTC free bet every week and 0.5 mBTC participating free bet that everyone got, value proposition is through the roof.

There is very similar calculation for Serie A, just 2 mBTC less since we have 2 participants more here.
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Was this the last game for Koeman at Barcelona ? We keep hearing this for 2 weeks now and nothing happens because lets be honest , who could replace him right now ? Maybe a top coach from LaLiga that most of us did not hear of him but he is doing a great job on certain teams. Another issue might be that maybe barcelona doesn't have the necessary funds to replace Koeman right now ...this might be possible if he is still coach tomorrow.

Probably, If whatever the President said a few days was supposed to believed but I'm looking to see when team comes battling for a spot in Europe (after being eliminated in the champions league during the group stages), or maybe when the El Classico turn out to be another humiliating game for the history of Barcelona.

It is a though most people from the pool went with Atletico to win, which obviously was an easy decision since only 3 people went other way.
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The team looks worse with every match, players are also reading all those articles and i am sure they are not 100% behind Koeman. Horrible situation for all involved parties. Probably making a lot of people in Madrid very happy though Smiley

Yeah, they're not even the team I support, or really like a lot, but no one wants to see this happen to a club, who's given us so much great memories past and recent past. And of course Madrid is happy, I'm smiling whenever Manchester (both) has big issues  Tongue

The deadline has passed and I am not accepting new participants any more. We actually almost had another participant just few days ago but it seems he decided to wait for next season. I'll take some time tomorrow and work out exact rewards amounts now that our pot is final. I am still undecided if it is better to reward first 3 places with higher amounts or drop the amounts a little and add reward for 4th place as well. If you have preferences you have about 12 hours to let me know. We have 0.062 in the pot for La Liga and 0.06 for Serie A (almost 3000$ per pool). I think that is enough to reward 4 places + highest yellow cap this year.

Shame about the almost-guy. I have no preferences, but remind me if I haven't paid up for anything (my PMs are a maze right now).

Effing hell, $3000 per pool, I didn't realise it was that much. What was the fee each again? 15 participants means about $200 each??

how often have you always heard these confessional statements about how you stand behind the coach... i think, as I wrote 2-3 weeks ago, that RK will be dismissed in december at the latest and then today's words of boss Laporta are already forgotten again

Farce, like Trofo says. I usually get pretty disgusted anyway by all of this politicking, but this particular series of nonsense takes football club management to a whole different dimension of circus.
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Was this the last game for Koeman at Barcelona ? We keep hearing this for 2 weeks now and nothing happens because lets be honest , who could replace him right now ? Maybe a top coach from LaLiga that most of us did not hear of him but he is doing a great job on certain teams. Another issue might be that maybe barcelona doesn't have the necessary funds to replace Koeman right now ...this might be possible if he is still coach tomorrow.
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The writing had been on the wall—at least in the media—Ronald Koeman's days as FC Barcelona's head coach were counted. But now Barça boss Joan Laporta has strengthened Koeman's position at the club. "No matter the result, Koeman will remain coach," Laporta said ahead of the game against champions Atlético Madrid to reporters (cited by Barcawelt).
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/barca-boss-laporta-koeman-to-stay-quot-he-deserves-some-trust-quot-/view/news/393590

how often have you always heard these confessional statements about how you stand behind the coach... i think, as I wrote 2-3 weeks ago, that RK will be dismissed in december at the latest and then today's words of boss Laporta are already forgotten again
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"Koeman will stay" said FC Barcelona's president earlier today...

Koeman really didn't want to be around anymore judging from his last press conference. Worst feeling in the world, when you're still on the payroll because it's more expensive to fire you than to keep you. I really feel for you Barca fans.
This is really becoming a farce. They need to find solution and fast. The team looks worse with every match, players are also reading all those articles and i am sure they are not 100% behind Koeman. Horrible situation for all involved parties. Probably making a lot of people in Madrid very happy though Smiley



The deadline has passed and I am not accepting new participants any more. We actually almost had another participant just few days ago but it seems he decided to wait for next season. I'll take some time tomorrow and work out exact rewards amounts now that our pot is final. I am still undecided if it is better to reward first 3 places with higher amounts or drop the amounts a little and add reward for 4th place as well. If you have preferences you have about 12 hours to let me know. We have 0.062 in the pot for La Liga and 0.06 for Serie A (almost 3000$ per pool). I think that is enough to reward 4 places + highest yellow cap this year.
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"Koeman will stay" said FC Barcelona's president earlier today...

Koeman really didn't want to be around anymore judging from his last press conference. Worst feeling in the world, when you're still on the payroll because it's more expensive to fire you than to keep you. I really feel for you Barca fans.

Personally I think that this time Griezmann will destroy us.

It's a matter of pride for him and Suarez to do just that. I feel more and more idiotic now placing that Barca bet ha ha.
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