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Chelsea, better make my day/night worthwhile as I'm watching you. Torn about wanting Arsenal to drop points so Liverpool have a better sniff at the finish line... because if we don't, then it's another title to City. Can't bear either, but maybe less unhappy if Arsenal wins.

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Quote from: buwaytress on April 21, 2024, 10:31:46 AM

Deduction derby, relegation derby, Everton finally came up on top with some good goals and a clean sheet. Not the player I preferred to see scoring but they won't care.

It probably shouldn't have bee a clean sheet though. A lot of controversy around VAR as Forest should have probably had three penalties that weren't given and two of them were handballs.

Didn't realise that until later actually, read the reports myself and they do have a point. The VAR official also having questionable alliances? Not good look for VAR or for the FA. But they have been mucking around with egg on their face all season really.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 22, 2024, 09:18:10 AM

VAR is useless when they don't even get these calls right.

A good tool in the wrong hand will be useless.
The officiating in the EPL is just poor all round with or without VAR. Simple decisions made during the games which the technology does not get involved in gets called wrongly way too often. Referees officiate based on their moods and not the rules, they can decide to not be in the mood to give yellow cards and start overlooking clear bookable offences till the game spirals out of their control.

I can't say if it's the training or the management and supervision, but something needs to be fixed.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 22, 2024, 02:48:31 PM

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VAR is useless when they don't even get these calls right.

Only the English VAR is useless since we all saw how it was used during the just finished AFCON competition; the technology is good but dangerous in the hands of shady English referees... NFO complained about the VAR officials before the game, asked for a change, and nothing was done.

- NFO has officially asked for the audio recordings of three clear incidents. As usual the PGMOL will release the record and still protect their own. Or give a fat Sorry and move on.

Valid point every time going to protect own peoples and giving shady sorry is not going to help they needed to do something better or stop to use this because we are having too many complaints about this in current season even we have a good number of matches which are having impact on many teams ranking due to wrong decisions.
If they are not able to do this all with better way then surely they need to stop this and stay away from this all use of technology which is much better for all stakeholders.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 22, 2024, 09:18:10 AM

VAR is useless when they don't even get these calls right.

Only the English VAR is useless since we all saw how it was used during the just finished AFCON competition; the technology is good but dangerous in the hands of shady English referees... NFO complained about the VAR officials before the game, asked for a change, and nothing was done.

- NFO has officially asked for the audio recordings of three clear incidents. As usual the PGMOL will release the record and still protect their own. Or give a fat Sorry and move on.

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Im falling apart im pressing the breaks but seems like the break is broken, i keep falling positions, fuck.

I need some luck to recover a little, i cant take any exact and in every game when i made a bold movement doesnt go as planed.

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Quote from: buwaytress on April 21, 2024, 10:31:46 AM

Deduction derby, relegation derby, Everton finally came up on top with some good goals and a clean sheet. Not the player I preferred to see scoring but they won't care.

It probably shouldn't have bee a clean sheet though. A lot of controversy around VAR as Forest should have probably had three penalties that weren't given and two of them were handballs.

Forest's management seem to have gotten themselves into some trouble with their comments post-game:

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Three extremely poor decisions - three penalties not given - which we simply cannot accept.

We warned the PGMOL that the VAR is a Luton fan before the game but they didn’t change him. Our patience has been tested multiple times.

NFFC will now consider its options.

https://twitter.com/NFFC/status/1782056187652960764

But I think they have a point watching the highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeztAaWh_tk

VAR is useless when they don't even get these calls right.

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Deduction derby, relegation derby, Everton finally came up on top with some good goals and a clean sheet. Not the player I preferred to see scoring but they won't care.

I would say this just about earns them a bit of breathing room, and if they get their 34th match as a win, I daresay they need only one more win after.

Quote from: Igebotz on April 20, 2024, 05:15:49 PM

I don't really give a damn about this group anymore—age is never an excuse. Lampard, Hazard, Terry, and Drogba were all responsible men by the age of 21. Our team has an average age of 23 and is still incapable of taking responsibilities. Everyone is acting like children. I hate this 2000s kids man!! I don't enjoy football anymore.

Snowflakes, eh? I get they have to plug their ears with music 24/7, I get they have to do Tiktard, I get it all, it's a generational thing. We were idiots when young too, but you're right, they seem to have shirked on responsibility. No one cares what silly thing you do in your generation if you answer and stand up to be counted.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 21, 2024, 05:03:12 AM

You have seen Liverpool and City talk a lot, there just seems to be an agenda with trying to dictate how we celebrate our success, we go top and have fun with an Elephant, that is not even trolling.

What success are you guys celebrating? Please remind me. Honest question.

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I understand that they could not push City's match to Sunday cause Chelsea play on Tuesday, but the fixture line up for the clubs are crazy and it will get crazier with the new UCL format and New Club World cup format (for those participating). Removing replays from F.A Cup helps but the top clubs rarely feature in play-offs.

The English FA are the worst. Mourinho rants about this for years, and the entire English media turns on him. No league in the world has the same set of fixtures as the English League. They do not care about the players, Europe's success, or the fans. Playing three games a week is a crime; it doesn't happen anywhere else. These MFs only want ticket money.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 20, 2024, 05:15:49 PM

Every football fan is aware that there is a "group of death and an easy group" in every football event. On a serious note, Aston Villa will qualify from that group of yours, and I'm not even kidding. The hashtag thing is normal, but you guys trolling around with an elephant on a tree every time you go top of the league is so naive man... I've never seen Liverpool or City make so much noise.

Sure there is a talked about group of death, not so an easy group. And it is a straw man's argument to try to use that to cheapen a club's run in the competition. The club does not decide the draws, we experience it.
You have seen Liverpool and City talk a lot, there just seems to be an agenda with trying to dictate how we celebrate our success, we go top and have fun with an Elephant, that is not even trolling. Ødegaard takes a picture of a long time fan and mascot, pundits get a meltdown.

Pep was speaking for all managers during his post match interview. Arsenal also played on Wednesday, yesterday and again on Tuesday. Villa, WestHam and Liverpool played on Thursday, Villa went the 120 minutes and penalties, but they all play today and Liverpool go again on Wednesday.
I understand that they could not push City's match to Sunday cause Chelsea play on Tuesday, but the fixture line up for the clubs are crazy and it will get crazier with the new UCL format and New Club World cup format (for those participating). Removing replays from F.A Cup helps but the top clubs rarely feature in play-offs.

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It won't be as easy for City,we saw them lacking the firepower needed to win a Champions League game they totally had in hand for most of the times yet they were not able to score many chances they had and which were clamorous.I think the psychological level plays a big role for these last 6 games in the Premier League and while we talk here Arsenal already won a difficult one against Wolves by playing away from home.I think Liverpool will do the same and I am not sure City is going to win the league again despite knowing that they have the easiest games compared to Arsenal and Liverpool yet there are no easy games when three teams are divided by one point,the psychological stress will be huge for these teams to the very last day of the Premier League.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 19, 2024, 12:58:09 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on April 18, 2024, 07:22:12 AM

Man, you made it through the easiest group stages--it seems more like a Europa League group-- played Porto and a BROKEN Bayern, who are currently in their lowest form. You didn't consider the "kids" excuse before trending the "Pray for Bayern" hashtag. Grin

A real football fan knows there is nothing like the easiest or hardest group. You have to step into the pitch and actually step into the pitch and fight it out for 90 minutes. Look at how you are doing in the league against teams that will be considered an "walk over" group.
Hashtags? Every club banters, many do it for engagement on X. No actual football fan actually hinges on that either.

Every football fan is aware that there is a "group of death and an easy group" in every football event. On a serious note, Aston Villa will qualify from that group of yours, and I'm not even kidding. The hashtag thing is normal, but you guys trolling around with an elephant on a tree every time you go top of the league is so naive man... I've never seen Liverpool or City make so much noise.

Good 3 points and a clean sheet for you guys today. More pressure on City Grin

Quote from: buwaytress on April 20, 2024, 11:09:22 AM

Igebotz, stop trolling with Chelsea's team age haha. You can be 25 and have very little senior experience at the top, or 19 and have many seasons in elite football. It's not just about the age but the years in senior football. That said, Chelsea should have a team that can excel for an entire decade, so let's hope they play better footie next season. Start with Citeh tonight!

I don't really give a damn about this group anymore—age is never an excuse. Lampard, Hazard, Terry, and Drogba were all responsible men by the age of 21. Our team has an average age of 23 and is still incapable of taking responsibilities. Everyone is acting like children. I hate this 2000s kids man!! I don't enjoy football anymore.

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City's winning the league, don't let their Champs League exit fool anyone, Arsenal and Liverpool can't possibly win all their six remaining games. I'm saying this while hoping for a different song from a different fat lady, but it doesn't hurt to stare down the well of things you can't change.

There is one dynamic though; by the time City return to league action, both Liverpool and Arsenal would have played two matches, and could be 4 points above City both. Shouldn't matter, but you never know what that kind of pressure does to a team who's just lost to City -- and if they lose to Chelsea as well?

Igebotz, stop trolling with Chelsea's team age haha. You can be 25 and have very little senior experience at the top, or 19 and have many seasons in elite football. It's not just about the age but the years in senior football. That said, Chelsea should have a team that can excel for an entire decade, so let's hope they play better footie next season. Start with Citeh tonight!

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 18, 2024, 07:22:12 AM

Man, you made it through the easiest group stages--it seems more like a Europa League group-- played Porto and a BROKEN Bayern, who are currently in their lowest form. You didn't consider the "kids" excuse before trending the "Pray for Bayern" hashtag. Grin

A real football fan knows there is nothing like the easiest or hardest group. You have to step into the pitch and actually step into the pitch and fight it out for 90 minutes. Look at how you are doing in the league against teams that will be considered an "walk over" group.
Hashtags? Every club banters, many do it for engagement on X. No actual football fan actually hinges on that either.

Quote from: Igebotz on April 18, 2024, 07:22:12 AM

Chelsea won their last Champions League trophy with the competition's youngest team (average age 19-23). You guys been given these inexperienced kids excuse since the Arsene Wenger era. Nobody cares anymore. Just win the damn trophy

A range is not an average age, stop trying to drop the numbers as low as possible.

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We need to take advantage of Mancity fatigue state from the 120mins against Madrid this week this weekend

I hope you do, it is your best shot at getting into any European comp for next season.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 18, 2024, 06:13:40 AM

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Nobody is surprised except Arsenal fans - you guys had the easiest run and still somewhat fumbled it. Played a broken Bayerm and still get kicked out. Grin

In no world is a run with Bayern in it the easiest one. They are Champions league elite with tons of experience in their squad while almost all of ours were in their first outing. they will get better.
All attention swings back to the league now. I somehow think there is still a chance even with how good City are at this stage. It is imperative we keep the distance in the goal difference.

Man, you made it through the easiest group stages--it seems more like a Europa League group-- played Porto and a BROKEN Bayern, who are currently in their lowest form. You didn't consider the "kids" excuse before trending the "Pray for Bayern" hashtag. Grin

Chelsea won their last Champions League trophy with the competition's youngest team (average age 19-23). You guys been given these inexperienced kids excuse since the Arsene Wenger era. Nobody cares anymore. Just win the damn trophy

We need to take advantage of Mancity fatigue state from the 120mins against Madrid this week this weekend

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 18, 2024, 05:00:12 AM

Nobody is surprised except Arsenal fans - you guys had the easiest run and still somewhat fumbled it. Played a broken Bayerm and still get kicked out. Grin

In no world is a run with Bayern in it the easiest one. They are Champions league elite with tons of experience in their squad while almost all of ours were in their first outing. they will get better.
All attention swings back to the league now. I somehow think there is still a chance even with how good City are at this stage. It is imperative we keep the distance in the goal difference.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 17, 2024, 09:53:19 AM

I could maybe understand if a proper player was upset (like the Mbappe - Neymar case) - although it is Palmer who is leading that team and is by far the best player on it.
Jackson is an average player with a below average season, I'm really not sure what he was expecting.

Chelsea really has nothing left to play this season, if I was Poch he'd be in the reserves, playing as a full-back.

To be honest, we still have a long way to go on the table; the Europa League spot is still up for grabs, and we're 13 points behind with one game remaining. Jackson's season has been below average, and he does not score as frequently as he should, but he is a ball carrier who is essential to the team's attack; he creates a lot of space for Palmer to attack from the wing. He needs discipline, but not with game time.

Silva was booted out of the starting lineup because of his wife's comments about Poch, and our defence became shit. We don't want our attack to suffer; Palmer needs Jackson right now.

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We were admittedly second best against Bayern last night, but still proud of the run the boys made.

Nobody is surprised except Arsenal fans - you guys had the easiest run and still somewhat fumbled it. Played a broken Bayerm and still get kicked out. Grin

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 17, 2024, 09:33:45 AM

Noticed everything happened under Poch - tells you much about his dressing room and team management skills. He's just too nice to be a good manager. Bold of Jackson not to celebrate with his teammates - never seen anyone so childish at his age in my life.

The Neymar/Cavani incident I do not think was under Poch. But the only way to go is up now for Chelsea. City should be in low spirits for the F.A cup semi final this weekend giving Chelsea a very good chance.

We were admittedly second best against Bayern last night, but still proud of the run the boys made.

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I don't understand that a quite badly performing player like Jackson this season has this much ego. While Palmer was going for being top scorer Chelsea players should have respected him more. I still think that Chelsea have a good chance to defeat Arsenal away which have a bad morale now.

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I could maybe understand if a proper player was upset (like the Mbappe - Neymar case) - although it is Palmer who is leading that team and is by far the best player on it.
Jackson is an average player with a below average season, I'm really not sure what he was expecting.

Chelsea really has nothing left to play this season, if I was Poch he'd be in the reserves, playing as a full-back.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 17, 2024, 08:52:52 AM

The players were just being petulant. Chelsea did not had a first choice taker early this season cause no one has shown real quality and reliability from 12 yards. Fast forward to now, it is obvious who the penalty taker is and everyone has slotted into place. There may have been a decision already reached in the dressing room, we do not know for sure but can assume there has been.

Jackson/Noni were being petulant, just as Mbappe/Neymar and Neymar/Cavanni before that.

No bold statement was made until the last incident, he laughed over the Sterling - Palmer incident like nothing happened.

Noticed everything happened under Poch - tells you much about his dressing room and team management skills. He's just too nice to be a good manager. Bold of Jackson not to celebrate with his teammates - never seen anyone so childish at his age in my life.

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