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Thank you Chelsea - finally found some reasons to drink to stupor today at a very nice view.  Merry Christmas everyone Cheesy

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No he doesn't. You are forgetting finishing, the most important piece of striker's toolkit. And that one is pain to learn, you either have it or not. Of course you can improve upon it somewhat, but some players just have it and it is a must on the highest level.

Agreed. But the shot power is already very good; he just needs some more shooting drills to perfect his shooting skills, which can be learnt with a lot of practice. Also, don't forget that lack of confidence can also affect your shooting abilities - remember how one of the best finisher at Liverpool F. Torres came to Chelsea and couldn't shoot to save his life; the club had to hire a personal sprint and shooting coach for him. He was a horrible shooter, one of the worst I've seen in a Chelsea shirt--that's what low confidence does to these guys.

Wow. City cannot catch a break. Haaland cannot catcha a break. Not watching games yet as out but saw a tiny clip on Twitter, mighty Everton scoring? And holding Citeh to a draw? Haaland tame shot, then offside off the simple header? What?

Missing an important penalty like that in a game against a low block Everton is crazy. I'm enjoying this downfall.
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Wow. City cannot catch a break. Haaland cannot catcha a break. Not watching games yet as out but saw a tiny clip on Twitter, mighty Everton scoring? And holding Citeh to a draw? Haaland tame shot, then offside off the simple header? What?

We can't do without Ali or Robbo -- they make a real difference in training, off field, just general character. I know I'm basing this on Covid era training sessions but that to me was where you really saw the team and their effect on each other.

The only team that took the  league off your nose after topping in December are not longer in discussion this season. Arsenal might cause problems but I don't see us (Chelsea) posing any real threats.

That's because you're supporting the team. I've watched them play as a neutral more than any other rival this season and I really like them. Maybe it's just me, and my particular likes for certain players. The only weak link I see is Cucurella -- but I know the stats and ratings prove me otherwise.

As you can see from LFC_Bitcoin's post. We can only be most critical of the teams we support. Some kind of innate fear of jinxing.
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Nunez have everything to be a top top striker - height, Pace, shot power and he's still young. I will take him over Nkunku every day of my life..
No he doesn't. You are forgetting finishing, the most important piece of striker's toolkit. And that one is pain to learn, you either have it or not. Of course you can improve upon it somewhat, but some players just have it and it is a must on the highest level.

He always has a wrong decision when it comes to that last touch, be it a shot or pass for goal. You don't have time to make that decision so it is instinctive and it is always the wrong one for Nunez. I don't know how you can work on that one.
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I hope so dude, I am naturally a pessimist with my team though. I have been hurt so many times. Chelsea will win it in the not too distant future because they have so many elite young players, plus a huge squad.

Maybe we have the edge due to a bit more experience of winning trophies and playing in big finals. It is a long season though, there will still be many twists and turns.

Yeah, I enjoy how we're already testing the waters and getting closer to a winning position; last season, we were more than 20 points behind the leaders, and now we're only a few points down, despite the squad's inexperience. One thing is certain: we will win the league before a London club does.

Nunez has some talent, but the only way to utilize it is to remove offside from the game and make football a 1-touch game. The guy would excel. In any other version of football he's a total liability.

We had the same issue with Jackson last season; he cost us a lot of points with those silly offsides, and he kept running and wasting great scoring opportunities, but that has improved this season. Strikers who lack offside awareness will always be an ass. Timo Werner and Moratta come to mind

Nunez have everything to be a top top striker - height, Pace, shot power and he's still young. I will take him over Nkunku every day of my life..

Can Jota be that player for Liverpool or will the club need to make a big signing next summer?

Unavailability is liability - he's a waste of space.
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Nunez has some talent, but the only way to utilize it is to remove offside from the game and make football a 1-touch game. The guy would excel. In any other version of football he's a total liability.
I think every striker at the elite level has some raw talent, no other way to get there. Nunez will not be reaching the heights Liverpool expect of him though, being up there with Haaland as the most prolific strikers in the league. He definitely will not get the chance to get there under Slot if he did not utilize all the chances Klopp gave him.

Can Jota be that player for Liverpool or will the club need to make a big signing next summer?

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Sell VVD to Real Madrid and free some wages for Trent and Salah or sell Trent to save everyone. The only reason Liverpool are still relaxed is no club is pushing real interest in either of those players.

I wouldn't sell Nunez, he's ass but we can see some obvious raw talent in him waiting to be harvested. The team can do without Allison and Robo.

You cannot sell them, their contracts are expiring. Top clubs surely want them, they are probably just waiting for the green light from their agents.
Nunez has some talent, but the only way to utilize it is to remove offside from the game and make football a 1-touch game. The guy would excel. In any other version of football he's a total liability.

I can't recall a player I wanted to sell as much as I want to sell Nunez since Carroll/Benteke days.
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You guys are playing better than everyone else and conceding fewer goals, which is very essential in the title fight. No one is catching up unless you guys become incredibly ass

I hope so dude, I am naturally a pessimist with my team though. I have been hurt so many times. Chelsea will win it in the not too distant future because they have so many elite young players, plus a huge squad.

Maybe we have the edge due to a bit more experience of winning trophies and playing in big finals. It is a long season though, there will still be many twists and turns.
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So what you're saying is that there's a line of clubs wanting to sign Caicedo for 150 million?

Nope, but we're not getting anything below what we bought him- arguably one of the best DM in the league this season. This type of players are not many out there.

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Yeah - I do. It's a silly situation - one I really don't like. I'd extend all 3 and cut the budget elsewhere - there isn't much deadwood in this team but Nunez is one that should go, Robertson can be another if you ask me.
I love Alisson, but I'd sell him too if it means Salah stays.

I really don't know what our budget is, but we didn't spend anything in the summer. The least we can do is extend our key players, although I do understand the risks of giving long-term contracts to older players.

Sell VVD to Real Madrid and free some wages for Trent and Salah or sell Trent to save everyone. The only reason Liverpool are still relaxed is no club is pushing real interest in either of those players.

I wouldn't sell Nunez, he's ass but we can see some obvious raw talent in him waiting to be harvested. The team can do without Allison and Robo.
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At least Caciedo is proving his worth the money we paid for him and he's already up in value, can't say the same fo Nunez.

So what you're saying is that there's a line of clubs wanting to sign Caicedo for 150 million?

Signing Salah to a long term contract could affect Trent and VVD are you aware of that?

Yeah - I do. It's a silly situation - one I really don't like. I'd extend all 3 and cut the budget elsewhere - there isn't much deadwood in this team but Nunez is one that should go, Robertson can be another if you ask me.
I love Alisson, but I'd sell him too if it means Salah stays.

I really don't know what our budget is, but we didn't spend anything in the summer. The least we can do is extend our key players, although I do understand the risks of giving long-term contracts to older players.
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Tottenham are very bad at home- now what's stoping Slot from winning the league.. they're now clear favorite and it's only December.
And topping the table at Christmas and not winning the league... is something we're quite familiar with in the past 8 seasons =p Still, I like where we are now!

The only team that took the  league off your nose after topping in December are not longer in discussion this season. Arsenal might cause problems but I don't see us (Chelsea) posing any real threats.

Yeah we would need to be like 12-15 points clear before I start thinking we are definitely going to be champions

You guys are playing better than everyone else and conceding fewer goals, which is very essential in the title fight. No one is catching up unless you guys become incredibly ass
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And topping the table at Christmas and not winning the league... is something we're quite familiar with in the past 8 seasons =p Still, I like where we are now!

Yeah we would need to be like 12-15 points clear before I start thinking we are definitely going to be champions. I think we can stop worrying about Man City now for this season, they are finished, absolutely cooked. Arsenal and Chelsea are very much in the mix though and we just need to keep winning, taking it one game at a time.

I'm rooting for Arsenal, but it's going to be tough for them and Chelsea.  It's looking like the only club that can topple LFC is LFC themselves.  It's hard to imagine any other club overpowering them at this point.  If they continue to play mistake-free they'll cruise to the championship.

I wouldn't count out City just yet.  I can see them turning things around and making it into the top 4.  Also, it's worth keeping an eye on the sleeper... Forest!  Cheesy
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I think we can stop worrying about Man City now for this season, they are finished, absolutely cooked. Arsenal and Chelsea are very much in the mix though and we just need to keep winning, taking it one game at a time.

Tomorrow brings up an opportunity to tick off another win. At Anfield under the lights, I am very confident we will win. Leicester are terrible and barring a massive upset, we should win convincingly.
No need to think about Manchester City team, this is no longer in the hunt and will not be able to compete again this season.
Arsenal and Chelsea are currently tight, it's just that Liverpool are ahead in points so it's a little comfortable and who need a win to add points.

Not sure Leicester will spring a big surprise at Anfield, but we believe Liverpool will win easily and this will keep the points gap with Chelsea and Arsenal.
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And topping the table at Christmas and not winning the league... is something we're quite familiar with in the past 8 seasons =p Still, I like where we are now!

Yeah we would need to be like 12-15 points clear before I start thinking we are definitely going to be champions. I think we can stop worrying about Man City now for this season, they are finished, absolutely cooked. Arsenal and Chelsea are very much in the mix though and we just need to keep winning, taking it one game at a time.

Tomorrow brings up an opportunity to tick off another win. At Anfield under the lights, I am very confident we will win. Leicester are terrible and barring a massive upset, we should win convincingly.
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Tottenham are very bad at home- now what's stoping Slot from winning the league.. they're now clear favorite and it's only December.

Well, we dropped points against Fulham, and lost to Nottingham Forest, so we're not exactly steamrolling anyone. Spurs are the sort of guys that make it easy for us to win. Ange's Spurs anyway. Arsenal used to be that way until they toughened up and stop opening their legs for us.

And topping the table at Christmas and not winning the league... is something we're quite familiar with in the past 8 seasons =p Still, I like where we are now!
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I think boxing day matches are going to be even harder to predict, but biggest mystery for me is match Manchester City vs Everton.
Can Man City lose again?
Don't be surprised if Manchester City loses, this team cannot be counted on as a clear favorite, the problems still facing the club and have not been able to solve it.

I think this holiday season should enjoy the Boxing Day match, it's enough entertainment during this holiday season.
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It is a risk. Like everything else in business.
It is a much more logical one than buying Mudryk and Caicedo for 200 million euros.

At least Caciedo is proving his worth the money we paid for him and he's already up in value, can't say the same fo Nunez.

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Yes, there is a high chance you'd be able to get 50 mil for Salah in 2-3 years from Arabia. The guy plays his best football and is never injured, if we need the money just sell Nunez.

You can't force him out of his contract, and Salah prefers it in Europe because his wife and daughters love it there; he's the biggest Muslim footballer now, but he doesn't appear like someone who want to play outside Europe.

Signing Salah to a long term contract could affect Trent and VVD are you aware of that?

he'll post another Christmas picture in few hours to kill off another Saudi link.  Grin
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Salah is aging fantastically and yeah - I'm with you here. Give him a 5-year contract, lock him in and then sell him to Arabia in 2 years and recoup his salary.

Liverpool is a business, not a charity. It makes no sense to give a 32-year-old a 5-year contract with a potential £400k/week in the hope of selling him to Saudi when he is 35, and it is even bold of you to believe that Saudi club would offer anything more than €30m for a 35-year-old player. These clubs are getting into more debts and soon will end up like the Chinese league.

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I think it was closer to 150. Not sure he wanted to go though.
Without him this season there wouldn't be any title discussions, so in retrospective it's good that he's here.
But from a business perspective, for Liverpool's sustained challenge for the top of the table 100 mil and no title is a better option than 0 mil and 1 more title.

You haven't won the title yet and the 150 could have gotten the club a better squad depth than what you guys do currently have.

Well Salah is still in his Prime and i think he has 2 years at least more in him to play on top level and he also wants to secure more money by getting a bigger contract. Liverpool will risk it because they know they need him. Its better to keep him then search for a new player and pay 100+ million that might not be a hit.
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Liverpool is a business, not a charity. It makes no sense to give a 32-year-old a 5-year contract with a potential £400k/week in the hope of selling him to Saudi when he is 35, and it is even bold of you to believe that Saudi club would offer anything more than €30m for a 35-year-old player. These clubs are getting into more debts and soon will end up like the Chinese league.

It is a risk. Like everything else in business.
It is a much more logical one than buying Mudryk and Caicedo for 200 million euros.

Yes, there is a high chance you'd be able to get 50 mil for Salah in 2-3 years from Arabia. The guy plays his best football and is never injured, if we need the money just sell Nunez.
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Salah is aging fantastically and yeah - I'm with you here. Give him a 5-year contract, lock him in and then sell him to Arabia in 2 years and recoup his salary.

Liverpool is a business, not a charity. It makes no sense to give a 32-year-old a 5-year contract with a potential £400k/week in the hope of selling him to Saudi when he is 35, and it is even bold of you to believe that Saudi club would offer anything more than €30m for a 35-year-old player. These clubs are getting into more debts and soon will end up like the Chinese league.

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I think it was closer to 150. Not sure he wanted to go though.
Without him this season there wouldn't be any title discussions, so in retrospective it's good that he's here.
But from a business perspective, for Liverpool's sustained challenge for the top of the table 100 mil and no title is a better option than 0 mil and 1 more title.

You haven't won the title yet and the 150 could have gotten the club a better squad depth than what you guys do currently have.
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