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Quote from: Igebotz on April 02, 2024, 11:58:31 AM

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 02, 2024, 09:42:56 AM

It's doesn't make sense to risk and throw him to wounded lions (Mancity) like that. Win or Lose Aston villa are in safe heaven.

Tell that to Arteta. Saka and Martinelli should have been rested on Sunday.
We have 2 premier league games in 4 days against tricky opponents and a visit from European giants Bayern Munich soon after, we need not exacerbate any injuries our players may have.

City alone should score over 1.5 goals against Villa.

Martinelli has too many bench options, but there are no good options for Saka - Arteta lost the league last season because he overused Saka and got his ass burned near the end of the season; this could happen again!!!

Saka has little competition in his position and no rest; unless this issue is addressed, Saka may become another Hazard, accumulated hits/knocks every game and became weak at 30.

Both Arsenal and Manchester City have fallen behind now and judging that only 8 games are left so far including today and tomorrow games I doubt Liverpool will have much of a problem to keep the standings the way they are right now and become Champions of the Premier League.They have quite an easy game again at home against Sheffield United,Arsenal also against Luton while City is facing a stronger Aston Villa,so most likely two sure results during this midweek games will be the win of Liverpool and Arsenal and it won't matter for Saka if he will be play or not,Arsenal can win this game even without him.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 02, 2024, 10:11:39 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on April 02, 2024, 09:42:56 AM

It's doesn't make sense to risk and throw him to wounded lions (Mancity) like that. Win or Lose Aston villa are in safe heaven.

Tell that to Arteta. Saka and Martinelli should have been rested on Sunday.
We have 2 premier league games in 4 days against tricky opponents and a visit from European giants Bayern Munich soon after, we need not exacerbate any injuries our players may have.

City alone should score over 1.5 goals against Villa.

Martinelli has too many bench options, but there are no good options for Saka - Arteta lost the league last season because he overused Saka and got his ass burned near the end of the season; this could happen again!!!

Saka has little competition in his position and no rest; unless this issue is addressed, Saka may become another Hazard, accumulated hits/knocks every game and became weak at 30.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 01, 2024, 12:51:24 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 01, 2024, 12:01:43 PM

The loss of Watkins is a good argument, but 1.26... this is literally the quote of Athletic (4th place) against Granada (19th), but in this case we have third place playing against fourth. I understand that this is a distant analogy, but it makes some sense.

City by all indication should win on Wednesday. Aston Villa are a strong opponent, but with the circumstances around the match they should win easy.

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I'm with KTChampions here. This is a poor indication of Villa, and an overestimation of City. Of course, City I think should still win this fairly comfortably.

I haven't gotten over the final match day City-Villa under Gerrard... when Coutinho put Villa up 2 nil... and still lost 3-2. That's just how impossible it is to beat City.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 02, 2024, 09:42:56 AM

It's doesn't make sense to risk and throw him to wounded lions (Mancity) like that. Win or Lose Aston villa are in safe heaven.

Tell that to Arteta. Saka and Martinelli should have been rested on Sunday.
We have 2 premier league games in 4 days against tricky opponents and a visit from European giants Bayern Munich soon after, we need not exacerbate any injuries our players may have.

City alone should score over 1.5 goals against Villa.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 02, 2024, 06:07:31 AM

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Manchester city are already exhausted from the low block game against Arsenal and not going to get around the Aston villa game so easily. Aston villa +2 goals handicap @ 2.05 is a valuable bet. It's going to be a close wining game.

Won't touch it until I see the lineups. If Watkins plays, yep - going with +1,5 on Villa makes sense.
As already said, I can see myself trying a draw as well - the odds are around 6 which is quite attractive.

City hasn't been at their best for a while and Villa can be dangerous if given some space to counterattack. They need Watkins fit though.

Watkins will not play, he had a serious knock and would be likely available this weekend. It's doesn't make sense to risk and throw him to wounded lions (Mancity) like that. Win or Lose Aston villa are in safe heaven.

+1.5 can actually work without Watkins; all we need is for the defence to avoid being pussies and opening themselves up to every dick City attack. I trust Martinez in games like these; he'll bully Halaand into an early yellow card.

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 01, 2024, 04:12:50 PM

Manchester city are already exhausted from the low block game against Arsenal and not going to get around the Aston villa game so easily. Aston villa +2 goals handicap @ 2.05 is a valuable bet. It's going to be a close wining game.

Won't touch it until I see the lineups. If Watkins plays, yep - going with +1,5 on Villa makes sense.
As already said, I can see myself trying a draw as well - the odds are around 6 which is quite attractive.

City hasn't been at their best for a while and Villa can be dangerous if given some space to counterattack. They need Watkins fit though.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 01, 2024, 11:29:47 AM

Yeah, bookies sometimes do this - I don't understand it as well.
Could be that they know Watkins is unable to play - without him Villa is a different team after all.

Still - makes perfect sense to give it a shot - I think I'll try to go for a draw.

Manchester city are already exhausted from the low block game against Arsenal and not going to get around the Aston villa game so easily. Aston villa +2 goals handicap @ 2.05 is a valuable bet. It's going to be a close wining game.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 01, 2024, 12:01:43 PM

The loss of Watkins is a good argument, but 1.26... this is literally the quote of Athletic (4th place) against Granada (19th), but in this case we have third place playing against fourth. I understand that this is a distant analogy, but it makes some sense.

I think a lot goes into the determination of odds. Manchester United were expected by most to win Brentford but were given incredibly high odds and on the pitch they practically crumbled during the game.

City by all indication should win on Wednesday. Aston Villa are a strong opponent, but with the circumstances around the match they should win easy.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on April 01, 2024, 11:29:47 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 01, 2024, 06:28:55 AM

Can anyone explain this to me: City vs Aston Villa odds:

1.26 - 6.60 - 10.0

Recent games with Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal ended in a draw, meaning City, being a title contender, scored only 3 points out of 9. Aston Villa is in 4th place and their season is going much smoother than Chelsea. Why is the odds for City's victory so ridiculous, as if they have a two-goal handicap? I understand that losing points here would mean losing the title, but do tournament considerations have any weight on the field? Aston Villa also wants to maintain its advantage over Tottenham and guarantee its place in the Champions League.

Yeah, bookies sometimes do this - I don't understand it as well.
Could be that they know Watkins is unable to play - without him Villa is a different team after all.

Still - makes perfect sense to give it a shot - I think I'll try to go for a draw.

The loss of Watkins is a good argument, but 1.26... this is literally the quote of Athletic (4th place) against Granada (19th), but in this case we have third place playing against fourth. I understand that this is a distant analogy, but it makes some sense.
In general, I was going to place a bet on City (thinking that the odds would be 1.5-1.6) and as if I lost the bet, I would be happy in any case, since losing points here is almost equal to dropping out of the race, but now I don’t want to make this bet since the coefficient is similar to robbery.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 01, 2024, 06:28:55 AM

Can anyone explain this to me: City vs Aston Villa odds:

1.26 - 6.60 - 10.0

Recent games with Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal ended in a draw, meaning City, being a title contender, scored only 3 points out of 9. Aston Villa is in 4th place and their season is going much smoother than Chelsea. Why is the odds for City's victory so ridiculous, as if they have a two-goal handicap? I understand that losing points here would mean losing the title, but do tournament considerations have any weight on the field? Aston Villa also wants to maintain its advantage over Tottenham and guarantee its place in the Champions League.

Yeah, bookies sometimes do this - I don't understand it as well.
Could be that they know Watkins is unable to play - without him Villa is a different team after all.

Still - makes perfect sense to give it a shot - I think I'll try to go for a draw.

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Quote from: Joca97 on March 31, 2024, 09:26:09 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on March 31, 2024, 03:13:10 PM

Damn, I needed City to win for the yellow cap. Still, 1,5 points gained against Omikfuse and Joca97, I'm really close now. I was 10 points away from them 5 GW's ago.
The 1st prize is huge, so the fight for this one will be epic.

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Boring game between City and Arsenal, I expected City would go for it more. This is a perfect result for LFC, can this really be our season?

I was thinking it was only gonna be a battle between me and Omikifuse but you came out of nowhere and are making things for us complicated a lot. Also made a huge mistake by changing close to gametime from 2-1 to 3-1 on Liverpool and costed me 1.5 points. Hopefully i gain some big points in the next round. First prize is really huge so i think the battle will go on until the very end.

I am having terrible week as all gone down for me on and off the field having first spoon in this season and most of the bets are also gone terribly wrong mean now need to be resettled things before next round otherwise I am going to have not good end in this season. Liverpool is now in the pool position with most chances they are not going to lose their spot and next 9 games are going to be interesting with full of action for the all fans having just 6 points in this round after winning round is terrible.
Next week looking better or the predictions and betting as well hopefully something recovery will be possible if lady of luck will give some favor as well.

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Can anyone explain this to me: City vs Aston Villa odds:

1.26 - 6.60 - 10.0

Recent games with Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal ended in a draw, meaning City, being a title contender, scored only 3 points out of 9. Aston Villa is in 4th place and their season is going much smoother than Chelsea. Why is the odds for City's victory so ridiculous, as if they have a two-goal handicap? I understand that losing points here would mean losing the title, but do tournament considerations have any weight on the field? Aston Villa also wants to maintain its advantage over Tottenham and guarantee its place in the Champions League.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 31, 2024, 03:13:10 PM

Damn, I needed City to win for the yellow cap. Still, 1,5 points gained against Omikfuse and Joca97, I'm really close now. I was 10 points away from them 5 GW's ago.
The 1st prize is huge, so the fight for this one will be epic.

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Boring game between City and Arsenal, I expected City would go for it more. This is a perfect result for LFC, can this really be our season?

I was thinking it was only gonna be a battle between me and Omikifuse but you came out of nowhere and are making things for us complicated a lot. Also made a huge mistake by changing close to gametime from 2-1 to 3-1 on Liverpool and costed me 1.5 points. Hopefully i gain some big points in the next round. First prize is really huge so i think the battle will go on until the very end.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 31, 2024, 03:13:10 PM

~This is a perfect result for LFC, can this really be our season?

I can suggest that this is a great result for all teams and fans (except City) as the intrigue remains, and the main favorite is still holding back in third place. If City were in the lead now, then each round would be more likely to cause irritation than interest.

By the way, the latest quotes are encouraging:

Liverpool 2.20
City 3.0
Arsenal 3.55

Maybe bet on City? So as not to be too upset if they do take the title.

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Damn, I needed City to win for the yellow cap. Still, 1,5 points gained against Omikfuse and Joca97, I'm really close now. I was 10 points away from them 5 GW's ago.
The 1st prize is huge, so the fight for this one will be epic.

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Boring game between City and Arsenal, I expected City would go for it more. This is a perfect result for LFC, can this really be our season?

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 31, 2024, 02:32:08 PM

Wait what, triple winner ! is this the first time we have triple winner ?

We had quadruple winners in Round 15

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Quote from: jeremypwr on March 31, 2024, 02:18:09 PM

Congrats to Trofo, el che and Barcode_ for winning the Round 30 Yellow Cap

Wait what, triple winner ! is this the first time we have triple winner ?

Speaking of three way, the current EPL table is also pretty much three way locked for now with only 3 points spread between 1st and 3rd. Im glad that we dont have to watch how dominant City in EPL like last season. Klopp now actually have a decent chance to end his last season with Liverpool by winning the EPL, good for him. Sir Alex won his last one as well

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Congrats to Trofo, el che and Barcode_ for winning the Round 30 Yellow Cap

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Quote from: buwaytress on March 31, 2024, 11:04:36 AM

Palmer for me but no way he wins. They ought to do an MVP... hate the Americanism but you need an award for guy who carries his team the most. Maybe the most objective is points won for team in a season though Palmer may not actually even be in contention for that.

Maybe Nunez? Ha ha ha.

Missed the entire game but don't care. Now for a perfect City Arsenal draw!

If it's based on points won for team then Palmer will be in contention - he has won us couple of points from his goals this season more than any of your players can't say the same for Saka and Foden.

Yeah maybe Nunez since the FA is running mad. Hahaha Grin

Too many hype about this game for two weeks and this is what we got? 0-0 really? @un_rank

Quote from: darbitmobilerecovery on March 31, 2024, 12:50:23 PM

I know Chelsea already did this in the past and doesnt have any good outcome, but..... how much time are gonna give them to Pochettino? He seems to not find the clue to make the team play better and become regular.

The owners needs to go - came with a fat cheque, splash £1b on some random Brazilian and English kids, sacked Tuchel, put us in a tight corner with the FFP and now we need to sell our experienced players to balance the book.

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I know Chelsea already did this in the past and doesnt have any good outcome, but..... how much time are gonna give them to Pochettino? He seems to not find the clue to make the team play better and become regular.

For me he is in the same situation as Ten Hag in Manchester United, he never ended up finding and building a good and compact team. And come on, they had enought time.

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