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Either way, I'm glad Man United is sorting out their mess. I don't like the club but there needs to be more challengers to Manchester City and if they can finally score 5 goals, its good for the Premier League.

We are far from being sorted out. So far we've had decent result on Cup but terrible on EPL as well as Europa League so the real challenge would be on weekend against Chelsea. I just hope that we dont embarass ourselves against Chelsea, it would be great if we win though

Anyway, I just noticed that we always produce decent game result after managers were switched out. Ole used to win 4-0 against Liverpool but then again the rest were lame history for that season

I wonder if United are now thinking if with the performance of yesterday they may need to consider Ruud van Nistelrooy as an interim manager for longer to see how he works with the team.

Ruben is taking over after the game against Chelsea most likely
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Either way, I'm glad Man United is sorting out their mess. I don't like the club but there needs to be more challengers to Manchester City and if they can finally score 5 goals, its good for the Premier League.
I wonder if United are now thinking if with the performance of yesterday they may need to consider Ruud van Nistelrooy as an interim manager for longer to see how he works with the team. They played better than I have seen the team in months and this came only few days after RVN took over. It is a lot of money they are planning to throw at Amorim and he has not been tested much either.

Crystal Palace for Arsenal, we may have gotten the best draw possible, but still have to play and win.

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Manchester City out, Tottenham must be dancing!

Van Gaal, Mourinho, etc. If you look at their averages, it is not very different from ETH. He is the easy scapegoat but your club structure is what is the most responsible for this mess, and your ownership finances.
I think ETH was given longer time than either Van Gaal or Mou before being sacked, he was actually the one constantly looking for which player to put on the chopping block, first Ronaldo and then Sancho.
Ruud van Nistelrooy is doing well in his first official match as manager, United is seeing out Leicester in the EFL cup.

Same as my club Barca. They fired Xavi and Flick is amazing, but people forgot Xavi already won La Liga with us, already reversed our results vs Real Madrid, already brought us back Supercopa in first season. But we forgot, we didn't fix the rotten structure and it cost us eventually.
The times I watched Barca under Xavi they did not look to be moving forward as a team, they did not have the identity they as a club have always had. Flick does not need trophies to show he has a plan for the club, under a few weeks the identity he is building is showing up and bringing results.

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Either way, I'm glad Man United is sorting out their mess. I don't like the club but there needs to be more challengers to Manchester City and if they can finally score 5 goals, its good for the Premier League.

EFL Cup glory is coming, don't worry lol

Flick needs trophies, trust me:P Fans and media are only satisfied with wins and trophies. I do disagree about Xavi, he had one season to bring back belief, and another to solve the mess with financial problems, but I do agree he got too caught up in politics, can't blame him his love is for the club. We needed Flick now, someone not so emotional about the club.
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Today is Wednesday, Amorim hasn't travelled yet; there isn't enough time for him to take care of the game against Chelsea; he will most likely be in the stands this weekend.
We are waiting for official confirmation, but latest news from Premier League are saying that Manchester United hired a new manager Ruben Amorim from Sporting, after they finally kicked out Erik ten Hag.
I dont know if this news affected Man United players but they destroyed Leicester in EFL Carabo cup with 5:2 result, and with van Nistelrooy as the coach.
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Van Gaal, Mourinho, etc. If you look at their averages, it is not very different from ETH. He is the easy scapegoat but your club structure is what is the most responsible for this mess, and your ownership finances.
I think ETH was given longer time than either Van Gaal or Mou before being sacked, he was actually the one constantly looking for which player to put on the chopping block, first Ronaldo and then Sancho.
Ruud van Nistelrooy is doing well in his first official match as manager, United is seeing out Leicester in the EFL cup.

Same as my club Barca. They fired Xavi and Flick is amazing, but people forgot Xavi already won La Liga with us, already reversed our results vs Real Madrid, already brought us back Supercopa in first season. But we forgot, we didn't fix the rotten structure and it cost us eventually.
The times I watched Barca under Xavi they did not look to be moving forward as a team, they did not have the identity they as a club have always had. Flick does not need trophies to show he has a plan for the club, under a few weeks the identity he is building is showing up and bringing results.

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legendary
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No this is nothing to do with keeping him, this is something to do with stopping the crazy madness of: -hiring expensive managers on expensive contract. -hiring expensive players on expensive contract. -allowing the owners to keep taking profit and debt high

Van Gaal, Mourinho, etc. If you look at their averages, it is not very different from ETH. He is the easy scapegoat but your club structure is what is the most responsible for this mess, and your ownership finances.

Same as my club Barca. They fired Xavi and Flick is amazing, but people forgot Xavi already won La Liga with us, already reversed our results vs Real Madrid, already brought us back Supercopa in first season. But we forgot, we didn't fix the rotten structure and it cost us eventually.

Everything is a mess when a club is not performing as their past standard but its logical that every clubs wants the best coach and players they can get their hands on. Its just a matter of fact that signing all those top tiers talent is not working out for us. Everyone point their fingers to another guy when things are not working out and yeah ETH seems to be the most logical options to take the blame atleast for now

As for Ruben, statistically he is a beast with Sporting CP but EPL is just a different field compared to Liga Portugal. Around 28 games to be played, top 5 probably would be his least target for the season set by the board
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I don't think the settlements was the major reason why they kept him around, he was already rumoured to leave by the ending of last season but things changed when he gave Man U the FA cup especially as it was against Man city and got the Europa spot from Chelsea. The settlement was never a problem, man U aren't in any financial crisis, they got funds to spend. I bet they'll
be spending too in January, Amorim would want some of his own picks especially a striker.

Having second thoughts about Sunday game, they (Man U) got that new manager factor don't forget and we aren't always lucky at Old Trafford.

Yes, they have the money, but with so many debts and so many players on high salaries, there will be more outgoing and incoming in January for them. He would need to clean up before building what he wants.

 Today is Wednesday, Amorim hasn't travelled yet; there isn't enough time for him to take care of the game against Chelsea; he will most likely be in the stands this weekend.
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€15m as compensation to Erik, €10m to Sporting for exit clause + Amorim contract agreement not mentioned. Now you understand why they clung to Erik for so long, expecting things would improve. INEOS must be regretting their investment decision; they can't seem to get a break, from patching the stadium leakage to building walls around the training facilities, to paying Yoro, Mount and Shaw's never-ending hospital bills, to hiring premium manager.

I don't think the settlements was the major reason why they kept him around, he was already rumoured to leave by the ending of last season but things changed when he gave Man U the FA cup especially as it was against Man city and got the Europa spot from Chelsea. The settlement was never a problem, man U aren't in any financial crisis, they got funds to spend. I bet they'll
be spending too in January, Amorim would want some of his own picks especially a striker.

Having second thoughts about Sunday game, they (Man U) got that new manager factor don't forget and we aren't always lucky at Old Trafford.
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I hope they pay super premium, and pay even more conditions and things people have unheard off.

Then they sign him long term, and he comes in and buys more big players.

This club seems not to teach other clubs that money cannot buy success, coaches the same, the club structure has to change but I want them to teach even harder.

So what do you propose they do? Keeping him there so the other EPL teams could get easy 3 points from us? The fans hate him, players probably fed up with him as well so keeping him there wont really make any difference for now. ETH was actually spotted leaving the building alone, there was no players that walked alongside him or giving him the last respect as their managers so yeah there is no reason to keep him there anymore.

No this is nothing to do with keeping him, this is something to do with stopping the crazy madness of: -hiring expensive managers on expensive contract. -hiring expensive players on expensive contract. -allowing the owners to keep taking profit and debt high

Van Gaal, Mourinho, etc. If you look at their averages, it is not very different from ETH. He is the easy scapegoat but your club structure is what is the most responsible for this mess, and your ownership finances.

Same as my club Barca. They fired Xavi and Flick is amazing, but people forgot Xavi already won La Liga with us, already reversed our results vs Real Madrid, already brought us back Supercopa in first season. But we forgot, we didn't fix the rotten structure and it cost us eventually.
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Another mid season manager change with no chance to buy their style of players, really want to see how he performs.

Let's see if Amorim can pull a "Sam Allardyce" in a short while before the January transfer window and stay up. Maybe they could have trusted Michael carrick more and give him enough time, he lost only a game while he was interim. They thought he was inexperienced.

No, he was part of ETH team so either way we are almost at the bottom so there is only one way up. He might not be the perfect solution for now but atleast sacking ETH gives some fresh air

Looks like he might be the fastest interim to lose a job, a deal with Amorim took place today, the club is pushing to making sure he's with the team before Chelsea game.
legendary
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Can RVN do it?

No, he was part of ETH team so either way we are almost at the bottom so there is only one way up. He might not be the perfect solution for now but atleast sacking ETH gives some fresh air

I hope they pay super premium, and pay even more conditions and things people have unheard off.

Then they sign him long term, and he comes in and buys more big players.

This club seems not to teach other clubs that money cannot buy success, coaches the same, the club structure has to change but I want them to teach even harder.

So what do you propose they do? Keeping him there so the other EPL teams could get easy 3 points from us? The fans hate him, players probably fed up with him as well so keeping him there wont really make any difference for now. ETH was actually spotted leaving the building alone, there was no players that walked alongside him or giving him the last respect as their managers so yeah there is no reason to keep him there anymore.
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And against Chelsea he will take charge at Old Trafford.
That will be a baptism fire, especially playing at home. I have made my preliminary predictions for next week, but if this deal goes through before then, I may make some changes to my pick for this match.

Only 2 FA trophies won by ETH, is it not that bad? I don't think ETH has a chance anymore.
It would not matter if it were 5. The style of play each week was nothing close to what United will expect or want to get used to or impressed by. He has been walking on thin ice and stayed this long for lack of better options.

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Ruud Van Nistelrooy as interim, do they even know what they're doing? Sacking without making out plans. Can RVN do it?
Manchester United always use an interim after just sacking a coach. I do not think they have ever had a manager ready when sacking one and they have changed managers a lot of time during the season.

United gave ETH lots of room to perform and backed him up in transfers. They may have institutional problems but I have seen good coaches work in such a system and make the club tick, ETH has failed in all those counts and kept holding on to the trophies won almost as a proof that he had not been so bad.

Another mid season manager change with no chance to buy their style of players, really want to see how he performs.

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As of this week Manchester United will soon get a new coach, the exit clause from Sporting has been agreed, meaning Manchester United will immediately accelerate the Ruben Amorin process.
And against Chelsea he will take charge at Old Trafford.

Only 2 FA trophies won by ETH, is it not that bad? I don't think ETH has a chance anymore.

I saw a picture on the news that he left without anyone accompanying him... No gratitude to ETH. Sad

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Ruud Van Nistelrooy as interim, do they even know what they're doing? Sacking without making out plans. Can RVN do it?
Manchester United always use an interim after just sacking a coach. I do not think they have ever had a manager ready when sacking one and they have changed managers a lot of time during the season.

United gave ETH lots of room to perform and backed him up in transfers. They may have institutional problems but I have seen good coaches work in such a system and make the club tick, ETH has failed in all those counts and kept holding on to the trophies won almost as a proof that he had not been so bad.

Another mid season manager change with no chance to buy their style of players, really want to see how he performs.

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I heard they will pay premium for Amorim.
Studied him a bit when he was on the LFC radar, didn't see anything that great in him.

Anyway, although Ten Hag wasn't doing a good job, United's problems start above the head coach. Whoever they bring, they will face the same issues.

€15m as compensation to Erik, €10m to Sporting for exit clause + Amorim contract agreement not mentioned. Now you understand why they clung to Erik for so long, expecting things would improve. INEOS must be regretting their investment decision; they can't seem to get a break, from patching the stadium leakage to building walls around the training facilities, to paying Yoro, Mount and Shaw's never-ending hospital bills, to hiring premium manager.

I don't know much about this Amorim dude, but he was once linked to us; he could be managing the game against Chelsea this weekend. I feel sorry for him already.
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I heard they will pay premium for Amorim.
Studied him a bit when he was on the LFC radar, didn't see anything that great in him.

Anyway, although Ten Hag wasn't doing a good job, United's problems start above the head coach. Whoever they bring, they will face the same issues.

I hope they pay super premium, and pay even more conditions and things people have unheard off.

Then they sign him long term, and he comes in and buys more big players.

This club seems not to teach other clubs that money cannot buy success, coaches the same, the club structure has to change but I want them to teach even harder.
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I heard they will pay premium for Amorim.
Studied him a bit when he was on the LFC radar, didn't see anything that great in him.

Anyway, although Ten Hag wasn't doing a good job, United's problems start above the head coach. Whoever they bring, they will face the same issues.
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Xavi is sticking out as a replacement, in Xavi's wife's IG instastory that his son is wearing a Man United jersey, is this a sign?

One of the best options on the market right now and a good chance for him to feel the league, one day he's gonna manage a premier club but manutd? I don't know. Lol

Who else is actually very sad about the end of ETH? Now we all lose opportunities of good/free money betting against United. I pray the new manager comes in and discovers new expensive talents who will bloat the team even further.

Needed that ETH ball against Palmer and Jackson next week, danm it we're so unlucky. Ruud Van Nistelrooy as interim, do they even know what they're doing? Sacking without making out plans. Can RVN do it?
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